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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On March 10 2015 01:44 mordek wrote: Curious on people's thoughts on Malf builds. Currently undefeated duoing with Illidan and I just winged Pursuit, Shield, Longer Regrowth, Ult depending on game/comp, auto-regrowth, lvl 16 is what I am really not sure of and even 20 seems situational for the most part? ur build is fine unless shield must be changed by a healing ward | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On March 10 2015 02:19 Chairman Ray wrote: I got dunked by Tempo Storm so hard last night by their triple support comp. Their team was Diablo, Jaina, Uther, Malfurion, Tyrande. They had their coordination down perfectly so that whenever Diablo lifted someone over his head, everyone else would land their skill on that exact spot right away. I went 100% to death every single team fight. Yeah, playing against the highly-organized 5 man comps is always brutal. There's a level of coordination there that you just can't match with pubs on your team. It doesn't even have to be one of the top pro teams. Over the weekend, I had a game with a 4-man crew where we went up against a 5-man group that plays together all of the time. It was a rough go. I can't wait for the 5-man ladder to be put in just so that some of those teams are taken out of the rotation. | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On March 10 2015 04:30 xDaunt wrote: It is good to see that I am not going crazy. I had all sorts of problems with spells not casting properly -- particularly with Zeratul -- over the weekend. I was having so much trouble with double bombs this weekend. I had assumed that I was rusty as I only play Zeratul during free week... Also speaking of coordination, that's part of what makes Stiches so stupid good. His hook is a giant telegraphed 'Kill This!' sign that works great in soloq. I had a few games with Stiches and even if I hooked the 'wrong' target everyone would just blow it up anyways lol (example, played against triple warrior + Raynor + Malf - I tried to hook a weak Raynor got full hp Malf instead, who promptly died before he was off the hook and I looked like a genius =D). | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
On March 10 2015 01:14 deth2munkies wrote: What time of day do I have to queue to avoid 6+ minute queues? I typically drop out at 5:30-6 to avoid the derp group and I wasn't able to get a game in the mornings last weekend. I do the same as you and I didn't get a single ranked game this week end  (except the ones where I forgot the queue and got the derp 6+minute team). There is no solution afaik, just wait for more players to come to the game. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On March 10 2015 04:30 xDaunt wrote: It is good to see that I am not going crazy. I had all sorts of problems with spells not casting properly -- particularly with Zeratul -- over the weekend. Glad to see it's not just me with that issue, mainly noticed it on illidian trying to cast evasion. Pretty maddening. | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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Eliezar
United States481 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On March 10 2015 05:53 FreeZEternal wrote: So guys, HOW do you play with Sonya. She gets CC so hard it's not even funny. I cannot see why you would pick her over Tyrael or even Arthas. I can't really see a situation where you'd want to pick her over Tyrael. I don't think that you'd ever want her as your main tank given her lack of CC. I think her niche is an offtank/damage dealer in a dive combo (ie you'd paid her with Tyrael or maybe Anub). Personally, I've never really liked Sonya given her relative lack of mobility. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
You are dead a whole minute. That's just ridiculous tbh. I mean i get that it's one way to make sure the game ends, but it just is really "unfun" imo. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On March 10 2015 04:30 xDaunt wrote: It is good to see that I am not going crazy. I had all sorts of problems with spells not casting properly -- particularly with Zeratul -- over the weekend. Are other Mobas handling it like this so people are used to it being different? Because I really like this mechanic. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On March 10 2015 07:28 The_Red_Viper wrote: Ok what i really dislike about the game are the death timers, way too long in the "lategame" (about 10 minutes in..^^) You are dead a whole minute. That's just ridiculous tbh. I mean i get that it's one way to make sure the game ends, but it just is really "unfun" imo. I know what you mean, but on the flip side when we wipe the enemy team late game it feels like they're all back up before we can do anything meaningful! So I don't know what can really be done about this, especially as you start pushing across the map short respawn timers + short travel distances would just drag the game out. | ||
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
On March 10 2015 07:49 FeyFey wrote: Are other Mobas handling it like this so people are used to it being different? Because I really like this mechanic. Feels the same as other MOBAs tbh. I miss the stop button to cancel spell casts  | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 10 2015 08:45 Wuster wrote: I know what you mean, but on the flip side when we wipe the enemy team late game it feels like they're all back up before we can do anything meaningful! So I don't know what can really be done about this, especially as you start pushing across the map short respawn timers + short travel distances would just drag the game out. Maybe some sort of debuff or anything like that? I just think being dead a whole minute is way too much, if you die two times around the 10 minute mark you are basically dead 1/6 of the whole game ... It just doesn't feel right. But maybe that's just me :D | ||
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Eliezar
United States481 Posts
How come there seem to be so many disconnects in Heroes compared to other games (say StarCraft 2). Anybody else notice that there seems to be way more disconnects in this game? I was just thinking about it this afternoon when our Chen and the other teams Azmodan were both bots in the same game. | ||
[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
On March 10 2015 10:31 Eliezar wrote: Okay, disconnects. How come there seem to be so many disconnects in Heroes compared to other games (say StarCraft 2). Anybody else notice that there seems to be way more disconnects in this game? I was just thinking about it this afternoon when our Chen and the other teams Azmodan were both bots in the same game. I've got a theory, not sure though but...probably because its beta  And the game isn't fully optimized yet. Also, it seems on some situations, if you alt-tab, it discconects you for a second. Now...about the death timmers... Not only do they exist to make the games shorter, but they exist to make comebacks posible. Yeah, a lot of people talk about the "comeback" mechanic being just the bonus exp you get when you kill heroes that are of a higher lvl than you (and how the enemy gets less exp from killing you). But thats just part of it. After a team fight or killing an out of place hero, you may catch up with the hero lvls, but that won't get you back into the game, death timers will though. If a hero or more are dead, you can pressure safely/take the map objective/, more easily kill the rest/ get a boss, etc etc. And if you do that, or simply pressure, you might destroy a fort or a keep, and that is what will get you back into the game. So, while it sucks to be a minute doing "nothing" its kind of a necesary evil, maybe i would make the curve in which the death timmers increase less...pronounced (?), but i think if we want a game where comebacks are an everyday thing, instead of rare things like on other games on the genre, we will need to deal with that. As a suggestion, since you are dead you can utilize that time to give orders, warn the rest of your team of an ambush, or complain about how much they suck and they got you killed xD. They should add a death recap sooner or later, that would help too. | ||
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