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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
February 20 2015 10:41 GMT
#6881
The quests that require you to win games are the most tilting things
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Yosheekee
Profile Joined April 2011
France111 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-20 12:39:39
February 20 2015 12:37 GMT
#6882
A bit of information for those interested :

It took me around 2 months, for an average of 200 games played to reach heroic league as a pretty casual player. Sure, there are heroes that i don't play very well but still, i have access and got lucky on my first game since i was first pick.

To be honnest i'm very pleased with how this works : i really feel like i achieved something, and it's not in every game that you have a goal that lasts 2 months. And i feel like i barely scratch the surface. So yeah, i like it.

EDIT : Now comes the "ladder" anxiety. Damn.
byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
February 20 2015 13:03 GMT
#6883
On February 20 2015 19:41 Heyoka wrote:
The quests that require you to win games are the most tilting things

but that 600 gold :O
on the other side i had a bad streak yesterday and am now at 1/3 wins :D
(>°_°)>
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 20 2015 13:24 GMT
#6884
If you're tilting on win quests just queue coop for 30 min and you'll feel better
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10135 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-20 13:34:41
February 20 2015 13:34 GMT
#6885
Yep, Hammer is a good choice to farm the dailies on coop. You just start taking down structures and win, normally in 10 minutes tops.
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
February 20 2015 13:34 GMT
#6886
On February 20 2015 21:37 Yosheekee wrote:
A bit of information for those interested :

It took me around 2 months, for an average of 200 games played to reach heroic league as a pretty casual player. Sure, there are heroes that i don't play very well but still, i have access and got lucky on my first game since i was first pick.

To be honnest i'm very pleased with how this works : i really feel like i achieved something, and it's not in every game that you have a goal that lasts 2 months. And i feel like i barely scratch the surface. So yeah, i like it.

EDIT : Now comes the "ladder" anxiety. Damn.

Yeah it takes between 2 and 4 months to reach hero league depending on how many expensive heroes you want. Luckily almost all the cheap ones are really good right now.

Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
February 20 2015 14:00 GMT
#6887
On February 20 2015 22:24 mordek wrote:
If you're tilting on win quests just queue coop for 30 min and you'll feel better


I don't know why I'm not doing this already that will be my new gig.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
February 20 2015 14:01 GMT
#6888
I always coop for all my dailies. Not gonna waste time with QM doing them. I feel like finishing them ASAP is the best option.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 20 2015 14:13 GMT
#6889
Yeah, it just improves the game experience. It's relaxing to just smash the clueless AI and also feel like you're making some progress checking off quests. With that good feeling you can go into QM/Hero and just enjoy being competitive at the game instead of being frustrated how long a quest is taking
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 20 2015 15:12 GMT
#6890
huh interesting, i just had a game where it wouldn't load for me :/
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 20 2015 15:20 GMT
#6891
Get a load of iDream's new tier list. Totally bizarre compared to what he'd previously been posting.
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
February 20 2015 15:42 GMT
#6892
On February 21 2015 00:20 xDaunt wrote:
Get a load of iDream's new tier list. Totally bizarre compared to what he'd previously been posting.


His talent choices are quite different now too. It seemed to me before that he overvalued escape and health related talents. This list seems much more "balanced?" in the talent choices? I don't know, but people are definitely learning a lot more about how to play this game all the time.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 20:28:29
February 20 2015 16:21 GMT
#6893
I don't understand that Jaina build. I'm not sure what she's doing with that build that makes her more useful than T3/T4/T5 heroes. I feel like that's some kind of anti melee assassin build that you get forced into by a bad draft or blind pick. You don't actually pick Jaina on purpose with the intent of building her like that. It's not that I am completely unable to imagine it but it seems like a weird solution to me and I'd be interested to see the games that demonstrate it's a good solution.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 20 2015 16:24 GMT
#6894
On February 21 2015 01:21 NonY wrote:
I don't understand that Jaina build. I'm not sure what she's doing with that build that makes her more useful than T3/T4/T5 heroes. I feel like that's some kind of anti melee assassin build that you get forced into by a bad draft or blind pick. You don't actually pick Jaina on purpose with the intent of building her like that. It's not that I am completely unable to imagine it but it seems like a weird solution to me and I'd be interested to see the games that demonstrate it's a good solution.

I agree. I feel like the only place where Jaina consistently fits is if you're aiming for some kind of AoE comp, otherwise she's rather ineffective compared to other choices.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
February 20 2015 16:29 GMT
#6895
Idream tier list is the perfect example of why you shouldnt trust what a pro gamer says like he's wisdom himself, and why tier list in general doesn't mean much to most of the player base. I mean look a at the tier list, arthas is tier five according to him, then you click on zunas tier list, LITERALLY right beside his, and you see Arthas in tier 1. Who should you trust? I think neither.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
February 20 2015 16:33 GMT
#6896
On February 21 2015 01:29 [Phantom] wrote:
Idream tier list is the perfect example of why you shouldnt trust what a pro gamer says like he's wisdom himself, and why tier list in general doesn't mean much to most of the player base. I mean look a at the tier list, arthas is tier five according to him, then you click on zunas tier list, LITERALLY right beside his, and you see Arthas in tier 1. Who should you trust? I think neither.

Zuna's list was older though, from the 10th I think. Things change pretty quick.

In related news, Zuna's new list just came out, Arthas in t4!
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
February 20 2015 16:46 GMT
#6897
Lol wtf he must have published the new one like thirty second after I made my post lol. Anyway, I still stand up for what I said, I don't trust those tier list
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 20 2015 16:47 GMT
#6898
I personally think iDream's list is kinda crazy. Zuna's seems to be a better reflection of where things stand. That said, I think that some of the changes to both lists reflect just how poorly some of the heroes have been understood by the professional brain trust.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
February 20 2015 16:52 GMT
#6899
On February 21 2015 01:46 [Phantom] wrote:
Lol wtf he must have published the new one like thirty second after I made my post lol. Anyway, I still stand up for what I said, I don't trust those tier list

Yeah I absolutely agree just to be clear.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10135 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-20 17:02:14
February 20 2015 16:59 GMT
#6900
Hammer, Nazebro, Valla, Tyrande, Stitches... all behind Jaina. Ok, i would like to watch some VODs to support this since i love Jaina but it's impossible to make her work on SoloQ.

Tier lists are pointless. First they don't take into account team comps or maps, and second, they are based on the largely subjective experience from the writer.

It's like listening to townhall 49 chapter, anytime the guy from Barrel Boyz was telling that they were trying out something that was from the EU meta (ie: hammer, raynor's hyperion), the other 4 would answer silly things on their current bias that NA meta is ahead than EUs, thus, saying Barrel Boyz perfected it. I was facepalm worthy.

Noone can give you a real tier list, because everyone's experience and performance with and against strats/comps/maps is different.
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