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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-09 00:32:42
November 09 2014 00:26 GMT
#3881
On November 09 2014 09:23 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 09:21 Redox wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:11 red_ wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:07 paralleluniverse wrote:
Some analysis of that last game. It was a very good game, with lots of back and forth. It shows that in HotS, all you need to do to get back is to win a team fight, as it allows you to almost even up the XP, get mercs or the objectives.


How does that last game show that? C9 appeared to be in control the entire game, never in danger of losing at all.

On November 09 2014 09:11 Spaylz wrote:
I don't think it's an outdraft.

EG were out of position so much of the time. The biggest example being the time when Stitches was at the south shire, sticking around for no reason while his team was retreating. All of C9 stormed down on him and they decided to fight, which was a horrible move.

To me, it just looks like C9 practiced as a team a lot more, and they actually play together. EG isn't quite there yet.


I thought EG was like, a top tier team though? That's what we were told in the articles forcing this down our throats.

Well top tier in a game with an almost non-existing competetive history so far. if this game reall developes a healthy competetive scene these frst teams will mean nothing later on. Also experienced LoL or Dota players should have the edge over RTS players once they played Hots as much..


Yes I know, I'm kind of mocking the idea, I expected C9s 'moba' experience to mean a lot once they practiced a bit for Blizzcon.
afaik jintae played lol almost entire time and didnt practice hots that much none of them treat that showmatch serious
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
November 09 2014 00:27 GMT
#3882
On November 09 2014 09:22 Diamond wrote:
EG could not be messing up these drafts harder, I'm dying over here.


I'm seriously not seeing an outdraft.

EG is botching their gameplay so bad.
I like words.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 09 2014 00:28 GMT
#3883
On November 09 2014 09:26 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 09:23 red_ wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:21 Redox wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:11 red_ wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:07 paralleluniverse wrote:
Some analysis of that last game. It was a very good game, with lots of back and forth. It shows that in HotS, all you need to do to get back is to win a team fight, as it allows you to almost even up the XP, get mercs or the objectives.


How does that last game show that? C9 appeared to be in control the entire game, never in danger of losing at all.

On November 09 2014 09:11 Spaylz wrote:
I don't think it's an outdraft.

EG were out of position so much of the time. The biggest example being the time when Stitches was at the south shire, sticking around for no reason while his team was retreating. All of C9 stormed down on him and they decided to fight, which was a horrible move.

To me, it just looks like C9 practiced as a team a lot more, and they actually play together. EG isn't quite there yet.


I thought EG was like, a top tier team though? That's what we were told in the articles forcing this down our throats.

Well top tier in a game with an almost non-existing competetive history so far. if this game reall developes a healthy competetive scene these frst teams will mean nothing later on. Also experienced LoL or Dota players should have the edge over RTS players once they played Hots as much..


Yes I know, I'm kind of mocking the idea, I expected C9s 'moba' experience to mean a lot once they practiced a bit for Blizzcon.
afaik jintae played lol almost entire time and ddint prictice hots that much none of them treat that showmatch seriously, neither of them is even best team in hots atm

Is there at least some price money?
Off-season = best season
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 09 2014 00:29 GMT
#3884
On November 09 2014 09:22 Diamond wrote:
EG could not be messing up these drafts harder, I'm dying over here.


It is kinda funny when you're losing fights while landing 3 and 4 man shock and awe plus orbital strikes.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
November 09 2014 00:29 GMT
#3885
Giving up Tychus/Abathur/Uther every single game isn't an outdraft to you?

On top of that picking Falstad/Tass into double tanks every time.

It's horrendous drafting, but just found out the drafts were done in advance, so lol results pointless now ;(
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
November 09 2014 00:31 GMT
#3886
Drafting all games beforehand, not adjusting mid-series is a bit of a joke =/
stu >)
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
November 09 2014 00:31 GMT
#3887
On November 09 2014 09:29 Diamond wrote:
Giving up Tychus/Abathur/Uther every single game isn't an outdraft to you?

On top of that picking Falstad/Tass into double tanks every time.

It's horrendous drafting, but just found out the drafts were done in advance, so lol results pointless now ;(


Ehhh.. Out of those three, I think Uther is the bigger deal. EG has the damage to clean them up, but Tassadar isn't optimal, I agree on that much.

What do you mean, the drafts were done in advance?
I like words.
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
November 09 2014 00:31 GMT
#3888
I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but it seems EG is just not focusing properly?
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
November 09 2014 00:33 GMT
#3889
I mean, look at that. EG are playing so bad.
I like words.
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
November 09 2014 00:36 GMT
#3890
I swear this other caster has no idea what hes talking about most of the time.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
November 09 2014 00:37 GMT
#3891
Chillatech is ALWAYS out of position.
I like words.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
November 09 2014 00:38 GMT
#3892
Anyone know why Zuna is promoting melee creeps instead of the more usual ranged?
Wat
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
November 09 2014 00:40 GMT
#3893
On November 09 2014 09:26 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 09:23 red_ wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:21 Redox wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:11 red_ wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:07 paralleluniverse wrote:
Some analysis of that last game. It was a very good game, with lots of back and forth. It shows that in HotS, all you need to do to get back is to win a team fight, as it allows you to almost even up the XP, get mercs or the objectives.


How does that last game show that? C9 appeared to be in control the entire game, never in danger of losing at all.

On November 09 2014 09:11 Spaylz wrote:
I don't think it's an outdraft.

EG were out of position so much of the time. The biggest example being the time when Stitches was at the south shire, sticking around for no reason while his team was retreating. All of C9 stormed down on him and they decided to fight, which was a horrible move.

To me, it just looks like C9 practiced as a team a lot more, and they actually play together. EG isn't quite there yet.


I thought EG was like, a top tier team though? That's what we were told in the articles forcing this down our throats.

Well top tier in a game with an almost non-existing competetive history so far. if this game reall developes a healthy competetive scene these frst teams will mean nothing later on. Also experienced LoL or Dota players should have the edge over RTS players once they played Hots as much..


Yes I know, I'm kind of mocking the idea, I expected C9s 'moba' experience to mean a lot once they practiced a bit for Blizzcon.
afaik jintae played lol almost entire time and didnt practice hots that much none of them treat that showmatch serious


the competition in HotS so far has been a farce.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
November 09 2014 00:40 GMT
#3894
On November 09 2014 09:38 Tenks wrote:
Anyone know why Zuna is promoting melee creeps instead of the more usual ranged?


Abathur has an aoe burst skill that has a fairly short range. If you want to push the lane, you need to land that skill on a lot of creeps, so it makes sense to symbiote the melee.
I like words.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 09 2014 00:43 GMT
#3895
even while losing these fights, c9 still edging out eg pretty hard.
liftlift > tsm
greatZERG
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia755 Posts
November 09 2014 00:44 GMT
#3896
"There goes the shock and awe HUGE DAMAGE...and C9 get away with no deaths"

x 1000

I could commentate this
stu >)
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
November 09 2014 00:44 GMT
#3897
On November 09 2014 09:40 Spaylz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 09:38 Tenks wrote:
Anyone know why Zuna is promoting melee creeps instead of the more usual ranged?


Abathur has an aoe burst skill that has a fairly short range. If you want to push the lane, you need to land that skill on a lot of creeps, so it makes sense to symbiote the melee.


Did he not take +Locust HP and Locust cleave?
Wat
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
November 09 2014 00:45 GMT
#3898
On November 09 2014 09:44 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 09:40 Spaylz wrote:
On November 09 2014 09:38 Tenks wrote:
Anyone know why Zuna is promoting melee creeps instead of the more usual ranged?


Abathur has an aoe burst skill that has a fairly short range. If you want to push the lane, you need to land that skill on a lot of creeps, so it makes sense to symbiote the melee.


Did he not take +Locust HP and Locust cleave?


I wouldn't know. They literally never show the talents.
I like words.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
November 09 2014 00:47 GMT
#3899
I also see Nova whiffing skill shots constantly this game
Wat
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
November 09 2014 00:48 GMT
#3900
Divine Storm does so much work, it's insane.
I like words.
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