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On November 09 2014 09:23 red_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 09:21 Redox wrote:On November 09 2014 09:11 red_ wrote:On November 09 2014 09:07 paralleluniverse wrote: Some analysis of that last game. It was a very good game, with lots of back and forth. It shows that in HotS, all you need to do to get back is to win a team fight, as it allows you to almost even up the XP, get mercs or the objectives. How does that last game show that? C9 appeared to be in control the entire game, never in danger of losing at all. On November 09 2014 09:11 Spaylz wrote: I don't think it's an outdraft.
EG were out of position so much of the time. The biggest example being the time when Stitches was at the south shire, sticking around for no reason while his team was retreating. All of C9 stormed down on him and they decided to fight, which was a horrible move.
To me, it just looks like C9 practiced as a team a lot more, and they actually play together. EG isn't quite there yet. I thought EG was like, a top tier team though? That's what we were told in the articles forcing this down our throats. Well top tier in a game with an almost non-existing competetive history so far. if this game reall developes a healthy competetive scene these frst teams will mean nothing later on. Also experienced LoL or Dota players should have the edge over RTS players once they played Hots as much.. Yes I know, I'm kind of mocking the idea, I expected C9s 'moba' experience to mean a lot once they practiced a bit for Blizzcon. afaik jintae played lol almost entire time and didnt practice hots that much none of them treat that showmatch serious
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On November 09 2014 09:22 Diamond wrote: EG could not be messing up these drafts harder, I'm dying over here.
I'm seriously not seeing an outdraft.
EG is botching their gameplay so bad.
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On November 09 2014 09:26 kongoline wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 09:23 red_ wrote:On November 09 2014 09:21 Redox wrote:On November 09 2014 09:11 red_ wrote:On November 09 2014 09:07 paralleluniverse wrote: Some analysis of that last game. It was a very good game, with lots of back and forth. It shows that in HotS, all you need to do to get back is to win a team fight, as it allows you to almost even up the XP, get mercs or the objectives. How does that last game show that? C9 appeared to be in control the entire game, never in danger of losing at all. On November 09 2014 09:11 Spaylz wrote: I don't think it's an outdraft.
EG were out of position so much of the time. The biggest example being the time when Stitches was at the south shire, sticking around for no reason while his team was retreating. All of C9 stormed down on him and they decided to fight, which was a horrible move.
To me, it just looks like C9 practiced as a team a lot more, and they actually play together. EG isn't quite there yet. I thought EG was like, a top tier team though? That's what we were told in the articles forcing this down our throats. Well top tier in a game with an almost non-existing competetive history so far. if this game reall developes a healthy competetive scene these frst teams will mean nothing later on. Also experienced LoL or Dota players should have the edge over RTS players once they played Hots as much.. Yes I know, I'm kind of mocking the idea, I expected C9s 'moba' experience to mean a lot once they practiced a bit for Blizzcon. afaik jintae played lol almost entire time and ddint prictice hots that much none of them treat that showmatch seriously, neither of them is even best team in hots atm Is there at least some price money?
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On November 09 2014 09:22 Diamond wrote: EG could not be messing up these drafts harder, I'm dying over here.
It is kinda funny when you're losing fights while landing 3 and 4 man shock and awe plus orbital strikes.
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Giving up Tychus/Abathur/Uther every single game isn't an outdraft to you?
On top of that picking Falstad/Tass into double tanks every time.
It's horrendous drafting, but just found out the drafts were done in advance, so lol results pointless now ;(
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Drafting all games beforehand, not adjusting mid-series is a bit of a joke =/
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On November 09 2014 09:29 Diamond wrote: Giving up Tychus/Abathur/Uther every single game isn't an outdraft to you?
On top of that picking Falstad/Tass into double tanks every time.
It's horrendous drafting, but just found out the drafts were done in advance, so lol results pointless now ;(
Ehhh.. Out of those three, I think Uther is the bigger deal. EG has the damage to clean them up, but Tassadar isn't optimal, I agree on that much.
What do you mean, the drafts were done in advance?
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I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but it seems EG is just not focusing properly?
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I mean, look at that. EG are playing so bad.
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I swear this other caster has no idea what hes talking about most of the time.
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Chillatech is ALWAYS out of position.
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Anyone know why Zuna is promoting melee creeps instead of the more usual ranged?
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On November 09 2014 09:26 kongoline wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 09:23 red_ wrote:On November 09 2014 09:21 Redox wrote:On November 09 2014 09:11 red_ wrote:On November 09 2014 09:07 paralleluniverse wrote: Some analysis of that last game. It was a very good game, with lots of back and forth. It shows that in HotS, all you need to do to get back is to win a team fight, as it allows you to almost even up the XP, get mercs or the objectives. How does that last game show that? C9 appeared to be in control the entire game, never in danger of losing at all. On November 09 2014 09:11 Spaylz wrote: I don't think it's an outdraft.
EG were out of position so much of the time. The biggest example being the time when Stitches was at the south shire, sticking around for no reason while his team was retreating. All of C9 stormed down on him and they decided to fight, which was a horrible move.
To me, it just looks like C9 practiced as a team a lot more, and they actually play together. EG isn't quite there yet. I thought EG was like, a top tier team though? That's what we were told in the articles forcing this down our throats. Well top tier in a game with an almost non-existing competetive history so far. if this game reall developes a healthy competetive scene these frst teams will mean nothing later on. Also experienced LoL or Dota players should have the edge over RTS players once they played Hots as much.. Yes I know, I'm kind of mocking the idea, I expected C9s 'moba' experience to mean a lot once they practiced a bit for Blizzcon. afaik jintae played lol almost entire time and didnt practice hots that much none of them treat that showmatch serious
the competition in HotS so far has been a farce.
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On November 09 2014 09:38 Tenks wrote: Anyone know why Zuna is promoting melee creeps instead of the more usual ranged?
Abathur has an aoe burst skill that has a fairly short range. If you want to push the lane, you need to land that skill on a lot of creeps, so it makes sense to symbiote the melee.
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even while losing these fights, c9 still edging out eg pretty hard.
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"There goes the shock and awe HUGE DAMAGE...and C9 get away with no deaths"
x 1000
I could commentate this
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On November 09 2014 09:40 Spaylz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 09:38 Tenks wrote: Anyone know why Zuna is promoting melee creeps instead of the more usual ranged? Abathur has an aoe burst skill that has a fairly short range. If you want to push the lane, you need to land that skill on a lot of creeps, so it makes sense to symbiote the melee.
Did he not take +Locust HP and Locust cleave?
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On November 09 2014 09:44 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 09:40 Spaylz wrote:On November 09 2014 09:38 Tenks wrote: Anyone know why Zuna is promoting melee creeps instead of the more usual ranged? Abathur has an aoe burst skill that has a fairly short range. If you want to push the lane, you need to land that skill on a lot of creeps, so it makes sense to symbiote the melee. Did he not take +Locust HP and Locust cleave?
I wouldn't know. They literally never show the talents.
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I also see Nova whiffing skill shots constantly this game
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Divine Storm does so much work, it's insane.
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