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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
November 08 2014 03:57 GMT
#3721
On November 08 2014 12:53 Kupon3ss wrote:
That last game at least was basically decided by the first fight

The fact that the map revolves around constant teamfights around blizzard-approved objectives made it so the team that was able to QWER with an extra level would always win the teamfight

Looks to me like LE is just a lot better at fighting.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 08 2014 03:58 GMT
#3722
Yay this HotS actually works at blizzcon.
Neosteel Enthusiast
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
November 08 2014 03:59 GMT
#3723
If you guys wanna lr, feel free to use my heroes blog, here works too.

Phone dying, but low expectations is doing well, i expect them to win 2-0. zeratul pick from rocjet jump is questionable to say the least
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 08 2014 04:01 GMT
#3724
This egypt map is really good looking
Neosteel Enthusiast
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12740 Posts
November 08 2014 04:07 GMT
#3725
team rocketjump must be trolling LOL
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 08 2014 04:09 GMT
#3726
H to the husky becoming a progamer hahaha
Neosteel Enthusiast
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
November 08 2014 04:10 GMT
#3727
I realize these teams might not be 'even' but it really feels like competitive hots is just qwer > qwe, and the game is decided there..

Maybe I need to watch more? But once that advantage is gained... they win a teamfight, gain objectives, and have quite an advantage for the rest of the game..
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 04:13:13
November 08 2014 04:12 GMT
#3728
On November 08 2014 13:10 Tephus wrote:
I realize these teams might not be 'even' but it really feels like competitive hots is just qwer > qwe, and the game is decided there..

Maybe I need to watch more? But once that advantage is gained... they win a teamfight, gain objectives, and have quite an advantage for the rest of the game..

Definitely one whole team getting ults at the same time ahead of the other is a big advantage but thankfully you can clearly see when this has happened and try to level up your team before smashing your face into the other one. Rocketjump played these junctures quite poorly and that is one of the reasons they lost.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
November 08 2014 04:13 GMT
#3729
Eg currently setting up
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ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
November 08 2014 04:14 GMT
#3730
either they need to make the maps bigger or do Bo5 these games are way too short
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
November 08 2014 04:15 GMT
#3731
On November 08 2014 13:10 Tephus wrote:
I realize these teams might not be 'even' but it really feels like competitive hots is just qwer > qwe, and the game is decided there..

Maybe I need to watch more? But once that advantage is gained... they win a teamfight, gain objectives, and have quite an advantage for the rest of the game..

If it's that simple, why don't you just qwer into the other team and win every single game.
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
November 08 2014 04:16 GMT
#3732
On November 08 2014 13:15 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 13:10 Tephus wrote:
I realize these teams might not be 'even' but it really feels like competitive hots is just qwer > qwe, and the game is decided there..

Maybe I need to watch more? But once that advantage is gained... they win a teamfight, gain objectives, and have quite an advantage for the rest of the game..

If it's that simple, why don't you just qwer into the other team and win every single game.

Well.. that is what happened?
AdministratorTeam Liquid VP of Esports
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 04:17:30
November 08 2014 04:16 GMT
#3733
On November 08 2014 13:14 ref4 wrote:
either they need to make the maps bigger or do Bo5 these games are way too short

This was just a show match. The games are short by design.

Well.. that is what happened?

Dunno about that. From what I saw RJ were really bad at team fighting compared to LE. Like really bad.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
November 08 2014 04:20 GMT
#3734
On November 08 2014 13:16 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 13:14 ref4 wrote:
either they need to make the maps bigger or do Bo5 these games are way too short

This was just a show match. The games are short by design.

Show nested quote +
Well.. that is what happened?

Dunno about that. From what I saw RJ were really bad at team fighting compared to LE. Like really bad.

From my point of view.. they were bad at teamfighting because they couldnt qwer, and then afterwords, they were all 2+ levels behind. If the other team has better abilities, its hard to teamfight as well as them.

Again, I would like to see more 'professional' teams, but that's what that match looked like.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 04:24:03
November 08 2014 04:23 GMT
#3735
well since teamfighting was QWER obviously the team that's ahead will win 99% of the time. The second game was a bit more interesting though; it seems like rocket jump vastly underestimated the exp gain from the destroyed building and fell behind in exp. Obviously once that happened LE was just able to force a teamfight and QWER all over them. There did feel like decent strategy and map movement involved during that 2-6 minute period before one team got a big enough advantage.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 04:31:05
November 08 2014 04:25 GMT
#3736
On November 08 2014 13:10 Tephus wrote:
I realize these teams might not be 'even' but it really feels like competitive hots is just qwer > qwe, and the game is decided there..

Maybe I need to watch more? But once that advantage is gained... they win a teamfight, gain objectives, and have quite an advantage for the rest of the game..


when I watched the Invitational I felt the same, well after two series I thought the game already ended on the ban and pick phase lol. I undertood more after a while so no game bashing here, was quiet impressed how some teams dodged skills later on. So I guess it helps if you have some more knowledge about the game or if the cast is noob friendly (which non are anymore).

But the 5 ultimates more on our side timing is quite strong, especially since teams get good at forcing a fight at that moment.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 04:33:36
November 08 2014 04:29 GMT
#3737
no idea who's on Fnatic but I'll take Fnatic over EG in HotS

Fnatic LoL > EG LoL

Fnatic CSGO > *

does HotS have mechanics that can showcase player mechanical skill?

I know LoL does. don't watch DotA but I assume it does as well.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12740 Posts
November 08 2014 04:33 GMT
#3738
IdrAAAAAAAAA
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-08 04:34:48
November 08 2014 04:33 GMT
#3739
idra is jack up =O
I really need to work out
aww no idra interview or trash talk =(
JeosAdn
Profile Joined September 2011
Costa Rica432 Posts
November 08 2014 04:34 GMT
#3740
weeeeeeeee Idra is back :D
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