On November 01 2012 10:39 Talack wrote: I kinda wish they'd stop wasting so much developer time on this
We already got HoN, LoL and Dota2 being worked on full-time and blizzard cannot devote an entire team to managing this to keep up with them.
I kind of agree, I don't see this going very far either.. It seems strange how they pick their priorities and it is once again too little too late. I remember when playing Dota , especially in the beginning (I started ~ 2005 ) , that most of the players expected Blizzard to acknowledge Dota's existence and maybe make some patches that will improve some mechanics or stuff like that.. They could have bought it for a small price for many years if they didn't have their had stuck into the WoW money pot . But I guess this is Blizzard's MO - irrational .
So , yes, stop the development on this pipe-dream get that workforce on SC2 and deliver a full featured game as you should , instead of making people buy expansions for basic functionalities ( i.e. multiplayer replays).
Honestly I think blizzards biggest fuck up in the entire history of their company...is not capitalizing on dota, and now it's way too late.
Blizzard probably agrees seeing that LoL beats WoW in number of players/hours played and SC2 in e-sports players/price money/viewers.
Youve lost it if you think LoL beats WoW in hours played..
The last year LoL has passed WoW as the most played game. There have been numerous articles on that, here is one of them from forbes:
Of course I didn't mean overall since WoW has been out since 2004?!
I mean that LoL has passed WoW in the last year.
But these numbers are only based on Xfire's stats. Sure, LoL might still pass WoW, but still, it is Xfire. I haven't used it for a long time, and when I did I still did not use it everytime I played a game.
Ever since I saw the blizzcon '11 video for this I actually got pretty excited for this. Most mobas feel kind of stale after a while, but I really like a lot of the innovation that they were bringing to the genre(takedowns, tower ammo, mounts, and especially multiple maps) and it made it look very interesting and a lot more engaging and fun. I wish there was more new info from blizzard about this coming out faster. Nice to see a thread for hyping up this really interesting take on the genre, really good work on the series Sixen. Looking forward to seeing more of this series.
Just released episode 9, covering the lore and map design:
On November 14 2012 14:57 Fyrewolf wrote: Ever since I saw the blizzcon '11 video for this I actually got pretty excited for this. Most mobas feel kind of stale after a while, but I really like a lot of the innovation that they were bringing to the genre(takedowns, tower ammo, mounts, and especially multiple maps) and it made it look very interesting and a lot more engaging and fun. I wish there was more new info from blizzard about this coming out faster. Nice to see a thread for hyping up this really interesting take on the genre, really good work on the series Sixen. Looking forward to seeing more of this series.
Yeah, I'm pretty stoked for a lot of these changes. Most of them are clearly pretty drastic, which will make for a really interesting new take on the genre, that's what I'm mostly excited about.
On November 14 2012 15:11 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Argh, the lore is going to need to be really sick for Blizzard to ship this game to all of their WoW players.
I'm curious as to what direction they'll take exactly, but I did outline what we know in episode 9 (above) as well as throw out a potential prediction!
On November 01 2012 10:39 Talack wrote: I kinda wish they'd stop wasting so much developer time on this
We already got HoN, LoL and Dota2 being worked on full-time and blizzard cannot devote an entire team to managing this to keep up with them.
I kind of agree, I don't see this going very far either.. It seems strange how they pick their priorities and it is once again too little too late. I remember when playing Dota , especially in the beginning (I started ~ 2005 ) , that most of the players expected Blizzard to acknowledge Dota's existence and maybe make some patches that will improve some mechanics or stuff like that.. They could have bought it for a small price for many years if they didn't have their had stuck into the WoW money pot . But I guess this is Blizzard's MO - irrational .
So , yes, stop the development on this pipe-dream get that workforce on SC2 and deliver a full featured game as you should , instead of making people buy expansions for basic functionalities ( i.e. multiplayer replays).
Honestly I think blizzards biggest fuck up in the entire history of their company...is not capitalizing on dota, and now it's way too late.
Blizzard probably agrees seeing that LoL beats WoW in number of players/hours played and SC2 in e-sports players/price money/viewers.
Youve lost it if you think LoL beats WoW in hours played..
The last year LoL has passed WoW as the most played game. There have been numerous articles on that, here is one of them from forbes:
Of course I didn't mean overall since WoW has been out since 2004?!
I mean that LoL has passed WoW in the last year.
But these numbers are only based on Xfire's stats. Sure, LoL might still pass WoW, but still, it is Xfire. I haven't used it for a long time, and when I did I still did not use it everytime I played a game.
Also most of these people doing this research tend to forget China, and how many people play there.
I'll try to find the source, but I believe it was that 10 million dota games are played yearly, while only 3 million lol games have been played in its lifetime.
If this is any good they'll be really late to the market to get any kind of share. Hell, DotA 2 is already really freaking late to capitalize on the MOBA genre that League of Legends has already accumulated.
This game will have to be over-the-top amazing for it to even get off the ground.
On December 04 2012 05:01 Bashnek wrote: is this still just stuff you're garnered from blizzcons/etc?
Cant wait for blizzdota ^_^
Indeed! It's a combination of the BlizzCon 2010/2011 panels, the behind-the-scenes press panel I was able to sit in, and some recent articles, .
On December 04 2012 05:13 Butterednuts wrote: If this is any good they'll be really late to the market to get any kind of share. Hell, DotA 2 is already really freaking late to capitalize on the MOBA genre that League of Legends has already accumulated.
This game will have to be over-the-top amazing for it to even get off the ground.
I would disagree with this sentiment. Sure, being first is a good thing, but LoL took the market from DotA1, which took the market from AoS. As long as the game is good, people will play it, and when people are playing it, tournaments will run it, and with tournaments, comes commentators! :D.
On December 04 2012 05:24 Foxxan wrote: omg this game looks cool had no idea it looked like this
So what will blizzard all-stars do for me that dota 2 doesnt do? If they are indeed releasing it apart from starcraft aka not for free, I am not sure I would want to buy it, especially after the rather disappointing diablo 3. I definatly am going to play hots since there is no real alternative. But all-starts already has plenty of alternatives.
On January 21 2013 07:19 []Phase[] wrote: So what will blizzard all-stars do for me that dota 2 doesnt do? If they are indeed releasing it apart from starcraft aka not for free, I am not sure I would want to buy it, especially after the rather disappointing diablo 3. I definatly am going to play hots since there is no real alternative. But all-starts already has plenty of alternatives.
On January 21 2013 07:19 []Phase[] wrote: So what will blizzard all-stars do for me that dota 2 doesnt do? If they are indeed releasing it apart from starcraft aka not for free, I am not sure I would want to buy it, especially after the rather disappointing diablo 3. I definatly am going to play hots since there is no real alternative. But all-starts already has plenty of alternatives.
Watch all the previous episodes, All-Stars core gameplay mechanics and learning curve differ from DOTA2. Also, as said above, the Starter Edition is free, and if they release it as a stand-alone instead, it will also be free to play with microtransactions (afaik).
On January 21 2013 07:46 MarkCJ wrote: Oh man totally forgot about this project. kinda looking forward to see how this pans out..
Sixen I've been watching your Blizzard allstar series since the beginning and what you've done is awesome, you really give out allot of great content regarding the topic. It might not be one of the hottest topics of the community but it's still fucking awesome!
On January 21 2013 08:41 Integra wrote: Sixen I've been watching your Blizzard allstar series since the beginning and what you've done is awesome, you really give out allot of great content regarding the topic. It might not be one of the hottest topics of the community but it's still fucking awesome!
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