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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 20 2016 02:39 GMT
#1841
Source on that? Also, looking at the numbers, it's almost certainly mean, but I feel I should ask anyhow.

Kinda shocked people take that long. I only rope when I have unusual decisions available. My median turn length is something like 15 seconds, I think.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 20 2016 02:44 GMT
#1842
I took the data from this - http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/statistics-on-the-duration-of-hearthstone-games-over-16000-analyzed/
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 20 2016 03:04 GMT
#1843
how much time before you rope?
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
April 20 2016 03:21 GMT
#1844
On April 20 2016 12:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
how much time before you rope?


I think turns are 75 seconds, and rope is 20, so 55-20?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 20 2016 03:26 GMT
#1845
On April 20 2016 12:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
how much time before you rope?

Each turn lasts 75 seconds and the rope appears at 20 seconds remaining.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 20 2016 04:38 GMT
#1846
On April 20 2016 11:44 Drazerk wrote:
I took the data from this - http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/statistics-on-the-duration-of-hearthstone-games-over-16000-analyzed/

You just divided the game time by the turn length, didn't you? That wouldn't possibly work, because the time total clearly involved the turns of both players. What you found was the mean sum of both players' turns whenever at least one person was playing a given deck. You'd need to divide by two to get something more accurate, and even then, you can't predict very accurately from the data given.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3463 Posts
April 20 2016 12:19 GMT
#1847
Oh if there is indeed another Giant, one that I would very much like to see is where it's cost is reduced by the card on the top of your deck. It would heavily get improved by control meta and would help push cards like Thistle Tea and Holy Wrath into playability.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 16:06:36
April 20 2016 16:04 GMT
#1848
On April 20 2016 13:38 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 11:44 Drazerk wrote:
I took the data from this - http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/statistics-on-the-duration-of-hearthstone-games-over-16000-analyzed/

You just divided the game time by the turn length, didn't you?

Yeah he did! hahahaha
LoL Drazerk, didn't you notice the numbers are far off?

Thanks for the trouble anyway, appreciate it.
25s / turn is sound. I think my personal average is 15s.
Priest
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 20 2016 16:06 GMT
#1849
On April 21 2016 01:04 Hellonslaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 13:38 Acritter wrote:
On April 20 2016 11:44 Drazerk wrote:
I took the data from this - http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/statistics-on-the-duration-of-hearthstone-games-over-16000-analyzed/

You just divided the game time by the turn length, didn't you?

Yeah he did! hahahaha
LoL Drazerk, didn't you notice the numbers were far off?

Thanks for the trouble anyway, appreciate it. 25s / turn is sound. I think my personal average is 15s.

Yeah I should have divided by 2. Welp
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 20 2016 16:30 GMT
#1850
Even if you did, just as I said, that would just get you the mean turn length between both players in that situation. With some really clever calculation you might be able to estimate something for a specific deck, but it's just not the same, is it?
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 20 2016 16:47 GMT
#1851
On April 21 2016 01:30 Acritter wrote:
Even if you did, just as I said, that would just get you the mean turn length between both players in that situation. With some really clever calculation you might be able to estimate something for a specific deck, but it's just not the same, is it?

Its as close as you're going to get really. You'd need HSDT tracking this stuff to get any meaningful data
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 20 2016 16:49 GMT
#1852
such is the prominence of drazerk on this forum that he spouts out statistics and we all believe it without checking (except acritter). =)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 20 2016 16:57 GMT
#1853
On April 21 2016 01:49 dAPhREAk wrote:
such is the prominence of drazerk on this forum that he spouts out statistics and we all believe it without checking (except acritter). =)

I mean they were usable statistics they just weren't too reliable
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 17:20:04
April 20 2016 17:05 GMT
#1854
Card nerfs are here!
http://eu.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20097355/keeping-hearthstone-fresh-20-04-2016
Ancient of Lore: Draw 1 card instead of 2
Force of Nature: Costs 5 mana, no longer die, but Charge removed
Keeper of the Grove: 2 Health
Ironbeak Owl: 3 Mana
Big Game Hunter: 5 Mana
Blade Flurry: 4 Mana, no longer damages face
Hunter's Mark: 1 Mana
Knife Juggler: 2 Attack
Leper Gnome: 1 Attack
Arcane Golem: Charge removed, 2 Health
Molten Giant: 25 Mana
Master of Disguise: Stealth lasts one turn
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 17:22:45
April 20 2016 17:15 GMT
#1855
Huge, HUGE nerfs wow!

I was calling the blade flurry nerf not hitting face for AGES!
I don't think Leper Gnome, Arcane Golem and Molten Giant are playable anymore.

No nerf to Abusive Sergeant? Intrigued.
Priest
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 20 2016 17:19 GMT
#1856
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20097355/

All the nerfs will make a detailed post soon
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 17:22:30
April 20 2016 17:20 GMT
#1857
Good changes to Druid cards, I feel like Druid players are really going to start exploring other options now. Non-combo decks have actually been good for quite some time, but few people are even aware of this.

There's almost no reason to run Owl over Spellbreaker anymore, you're paying +2/+2 in stats for it costing 1 less. Not that I have a problem with this. Also approve of the changes to Knife Juggler, Leper Gnome and Blade Flurry, I figured they would receive nerfs like the ones they got. Arcane Golem change is actually pretty cool, now it's a much more interesting card imo. Also they nerfed the wrong giant, it's Mountain Giant that I have the 3rd copy of, grr...
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 17:25:38
April 20 2016 17:21 GMT
#1858
IDK how i fel about blade flurry tbh, i understand why it no longer damages face, but 4 mana is really harsh...

Also i dislike Keeper 2/2 + silence or deal 2 damage for 4 mana (+1 hp for 1 mana mor ecompared to owl is kinda bad considering it is a CLASS card, 2 damage for 5 stats is meh as well)

Hunter's Mark was never an issue to me but i guess...

Molten Giant - not sure about that, i guess they really want handlock not to get out of control. May be good, may be harsh but i think it kinda balances out with BGH nerf (EDIT - and ofc some burst nerfs, but still a lot of it, like mage burst and hunter's KC is not touched).

Arcane Golem gonna be unplayable (now it can be compared to Felguard).

Others i'm fine with (not sure about Juggler, but IMO it's the only thing they can change to make him less annoying without destroying the card warsong commander style)
Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 17:40:42
April 20 2016 17:32 GMT
#1859
On April 21 2016 02:21 Kaniol wrote:
(not sure about Juggler, but IMO it's the only thing they can change to make him less annoying without destroying the card warsong commander style)

Since Knife Juggler do not kill 1/3 minions anymore i am fine with this nerf.

Agree that Blade Flurry 's cost as 4 mana is a bit too harsh, should cost 3, but i guess they are taking Preparation into consideration.
Priest
Hellonslaught
Profile Joined June 2014
Brazil0 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-20 17:33:12
April 20 2016 17:32 GMT
#1860
double post
Priest
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