EPTNew Expansion: Whispers of the Old Gods - Page 63
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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Hellonslaught
Brazil0 Posts
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Wuster
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On April 07 2016 12:01 Wuster wrote: And of course when Wailing Soul was previewed everyone called it the death of Freeze Mage lol. I wish I had tried out Silence Druid though, but a few weeks before Standard hits so maybe I will! When you're looking at a card it's easy to forget it actually needs to earn its place in your 30 card deck. I mean yeah, if Wailing Soul suddenly popped into my hand against a Freeze Mage, I'd be ecstatic, but cards don't just pop into your hand, they need to be included beforehand, and nobody has the stones to use a Wailing Soul in their deck on the off chance they might bump into a Freeze Mage. | ||
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Spect8rCraft
649 Posts
On April 07 2016 12:01 Wuster wrote: And of course when Wailing Soul was previewed everyone called it the death of Freeze Mage lol. I wish I had tried out Silence Druid though, but a few weeks before Standard hits so maybe I will! When Wailing Soul came out, everyone went silent on the matter.  | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On April 07 2016 10:28 NewSunshine wrote: One with Nothing is one of those cards I think Hearthstone needs more of. It's an awful card, no question, but at the same time it's like a challenge to you, to see if you can actually do something with it. Then when you figure out a way to do something cool with it, you get to troll people by rolling out this awful card that everyone had written off. Closest thing we got to that I think is Wailing Soul. There is some cards that interacts with discarding cards (Fist of Jaraxxus, Tiny Knight of Evil) so the Hearthstone One with Nothing would be better than useless | ||
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Nakara
United States0 Posts
On April 07 2016 13:26 WindWolf wrote: There is some cards that interacts with discarding cards (Fist of Jaraxxus, Tiny Knight of Evil) so the Hearthstone One with Nothing would be better than useless Well its not exactly useless in MTG either, there is lots of ways to cast cards from your graveyard, cheaply bring back creatures, or madness effects that allow you to cast a card cheaper if its discarded. Its just there are better ways to set up all of those effects. | ||
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Malhavoc
Italy308 Posts
On April 07 2016 07:48 Hellonslaught wrote: Now you got me interested, Shahrazad has an amazing weird effect, did someone find a way to abuse it? Kinda reminds me of "Last turn" from Yug-Oh... very, very broken. I once read about a clever use of Sharazad.. but far from competitive. The trick was that if a card got removed from the game in a subgame, it remained removed from the game once everything got shuffled back to rebuild your deck for the super game (note: this is not true anymore, rules got changed and exiled cards do not stay exiled anymore). The strategy was this: you play a deck focused on removals, life gain and exiling cards, plus some milling. Your subgame plan isn't winning: it's just removing as much of his cards as possible. Then you can lose, get back to the super game with some life less (but you can gain it back with your cards, and he lost some cards permanently!), and trying to get another subgame to remove some cards more. The long term plan si removing almost all his library so he gets with no win conditions (or he gets decked easily) in the main game. Why doing this with Sharazad and not in a normal game? Especially in Vintage, many decks had very few win conditions, so they were forced to use them if they wanted to win the subgame. And by doing so, they gave you chances to remove their win conditions from the main game too, so that they could not win the real one anymore. ...did say it's not competitive, but it's indeed clever! :D | ||
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Hearken
United Kingdom0 Posts
On April 07 2016 12:01 Wuster wrote: And of course when Wailing Soul was previewed everyone called it the death of Freeze Mage lol. I wish I had tried out Silence Druid though, but a few weeks before Standard hits so maybe I will! Dat Eerie Statue value!!! | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On April 07 2016 10:06 Acritter wrote: Also, One With Nothing had a cool effect that you could at least potentially use, even if nobody ever managed to actually use it. I'd say the best comparison for Monstrosity is all the incredibly bland cards that are just plain overcosted. Those are infuriatingly awful. How about Wood Elemental? I guess it's not necessarily "bland" but in terms of cost... I'm also building a silence druid right now lol. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On April 07 2016 13:34 Nakara wrote: Well its not exactly useless in MTG either, there is lots of ways to cast cards from your graveyard, cheaply bring back creatures, or madness effects that allow you to cast a card cheaper if its discarded. Its just there are better ways to set up all of those effects. Just in support of your view, and to provide a concrete example: Putrid Imp. http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=383057 Its cost is the same as One With Nothing, and you can activate its discard ability as often as you like and can even do it in response to (most) removal, meaning you get to discard exactly as many cards from your hand as you like in the order you please. That's exactly what you want in a discard effect. The only disadvantage of Putrid Imp is that you have to initially cast it on your own turn, but that turns out to be irrelevant. Oh, and there are much better ways of getting things into your graveyard than even Putrid Imp. On April 07 2016 21:32 mordek wrote: How about Wood Elemental? I guess it's not necessarily "bland" but in terms of cost... I'm also building a silence druid right now lol. Hmm, yeah, I think it's obviously overpriced to a ridiculous extreme, but there's a kinda neat idea behind it that gets utterly annihilated by the poor balancing. "Sacrifice lands to get a stronger effect! How many do you dare put in?" Yeah, that's neat. But then again, a minion eating other minions to get more powerful is also cool, if horribly executed with *Boogeymonster (that name is awful). Like, lemme try and sell a card idea. It starts off as, say, a 3/3 for 3 or some other marginally subpar stat total, and has the ability: whenever this attacks and kills a minion, transform it into [name that sounds more threatening]. The result of that also has the same ability, and maybe one more stage beyond that, with each new minion getting additional stats and cool new abilities. As for theme, I'm thinking of a vampire, gaining the ability Divine Shield first, Windfury second, and then Deathrattle: summon two of [stage one vampire] as its capstone, so to speak. Stealth would be cool, but probably impossible to balance. That's the kind of card The Boogeymonster should have been, whether it was statted to be seriously competitive or not. It's just a neat effect that can get people excited about achieving the dream. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
![[image loading]](https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/ns/NSJMX58KA7I71459988929592.gif) ...dear god ![[image loading]](https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/ZW3BYEWMIJMO1459987555494.png) | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
On April 08 2016 02:03 Drazerk wrote: ...dear god Knowing me that lock card will prob deal 7 to my face and 2 to his when he has 4 minions on the board. Yogg-Saron though...wtf... | ||
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Ryzel
United States540 Posts
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RevenantSC2
United States0 Posts
Spreading Madness seems overcosted considering you can waste some of the missiles on your own minions or face. It could be decent though as a tech card against flood decks since more of the missiles will hit their target. But wouldn't you rather play Demonwrath or Hellfire or MC Tech to clean up a board? Also there's a funny combo with Gurubashi Berserker. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On April 08 2016 02:03 Drazerk wrote: ...dear god As if Trolden did not have enough content from the new expansion already, this will keep him busy for years to come | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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