EPTLeague of Explorers Card Review: Wing One - Page 5
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Kapparian
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Hellonslaught
Brazil0 Posts
Faced 3 Reno decks so far and won all 3, wasn't even close. Playing just 1 of each card really hurts a lot imo. | ||
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
So far having him feels superior to my previous deck. Most of my losses came to secret pally which even in my old deck I could almost never beat anyways. If we take out the auto-loss matchup of secret pally the deck is 12-4 or 75% which is really good. More testing needs to be done, and this is still a tiny amount of games, but this looks very promising to me. Still need to play around with how many 2of's my deck can have and still see use out of reno. For these 20 games I ran 3. (Shield Slam, Execute, and Death's Bite) Haven't really missed the other cards so much. | ||
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
Reno is rather fun and powerful, if inconsistent. I'm enjoying Dark Peddler in my MalyLock deck and Torch is cool and great value. Can't wait for moar cards :D | ||
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Hellonslaught
Brazil0 Posts
Most 3 drops are situational usefull (Thoughsteal, Shadow Word: Death, Dark Cultist, BGH, Mind Control Tech, Shade of Naxxaramas, Deathlord, Oracle, Acolyte of Pain, etc). Great sinnergy with Bran as well. Alongside with Museum Curator, Battlecry priest might actually be a thing. | ||
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Mhantra
United States0 Posts
On November 15 2015 10:46 Hellonslaught wrote: Jeweled Scarab is a lot better then expected. Most 3 drops are situational usefull (Thoughsteal, Shadow Word: Death, Dark Cultist, BGH, Mind Control Tech, Shade of Naxxaramas, Deathlord, Oracle, Acolyte of Pain, etc). Great sinnergy with Bran as well. Alongside with Museum Curator, Battlecry priest might actually be a thing. Yup, I agree. And I think the hidden winner of the Jeweled Scarab sweepstakes is Shaman. Just think about their situational 3 drops: Hex, Lightning Storm, Elemental Destruction, Feral Spirits, Healing Wave, Lava Burst to instantly remove a 5 drop or extra burn later, Mana Tide Totem, Tuskar Totemic to repopulate board. And interestingly, a lot of times it is left on the board if there are other minions, so it is easy target for Flametongue Totem or Rock Biter to trade up. Jeweled Scarab is awesome in shaman. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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JVJ
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Early game, it helps filling your curve and gives you more option to zerg the board whithout having to tap, and later on, it can give you the extra reach you need with Soulfire and Power Overwhelming. I won a game turn 6 with triple PO on a Stonetusk Boar, Garrosh was not amused. (Guldan was lol) Also, Explorer's Hat is preeeetty good...in tempo mage !  | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
apparently you can crash the game if you encounter a board like this... (Pretty much never gonna happen) Also means we will likely never see a spell discover card | ||
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Rechact
Canada0 Posts
Edit: 4/0 Edit: 5/0 | ||
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HolydaKing
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On November 15 2015 20:01 Drazerk wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyAkD7Oh1CA apparently you can crash the game if you encounter a board like this... (Pretty much never gonna happen) Also means we will likely never see a spell discover card I don't follow. What does that have to do with spell discover cards? Moreover, the very first fight in the adventure involves being given spell discover cards, including one that chooses from spells. So we've already seen them. Not to mention that functionally there's almost no difference between them and Tracking or any of Druid's "Choose One" spells. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On November 16 2015 23:31 Seuss wrote: I don't follow. What does that have to do with spell discover cards? Moreover, the very first fight in the adventure involves being given spell discover cards, including one that chooses from spells. So we've already seen them. Not to mention that functionally there's almost no difference between them and Tracking or any of Druid's "Choose One" spells. I don't understand what that has to do with spell discover? It's just interrupting when discover happens which messes the game up. In any case I don't see why that bug can't be fixed. Also, something I kept thinking about when reading through the first page of 'YOU ARE TOO PESSIMISTIC' - all the comments from TGT where even the optimistic people were like 'How can you hate this card but give garbage like Mysterious Challenger a 6?'. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On November 16 2015 23:31 Seuss wrote: I don't follow. What does that have to do with spell discover cards? Moreover, the very first fight in the adventure involves being given spell discover cards, including one that chooses from spells. So we've already seen them. Not to mention that functionally there's almost no difference between them and Tracking or any of Druid's "Choose One" spells. its much easier and more common to abuse Violet Teacher to crash the game than it is Illidan Stormrage both of which work the exact same way Although I guess you'd not be interupting anything and i'm a moron for thinking of ways to crash my opponents game easily *whistles* | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On November 17 2015 03:21 Seuss wrote: Predictions are tough and I don't fault people for getting them wrong. It's pretty natural to be conservative in predictions because, it's easier to defend undershooting as compared to hyping up a card that fails to delive (SEE: Varian). A good example of the opposite is people underestimating the cards that really needed to see practice before seeing how good it was. Mysterious Challenger is a good example of this. People just underestimated the power of playing 5 cards from your deck could be. This is fairly comparable to the pre-release evaluation of Reno. And then you have hidden mechanics that Blizzard never told you about that would have greatly effected the evaluation in the pre-release. An example of this is the Grim Patron. Warsong Commander had gone more than 2 patch cycles of not granting Charge to minions that weren't played from the hand. All of a sudden, Warsong Commander is fixed before Grim Patron's release. Nobody expected a change would come so suddenly, so you can't fault them for not evaluating it correctly. Something that's comparable in LOE would be the Discover mechanic. As Ben Brode confirmed, Class Cards are 4x more likely to be offered, which alters the evaluation significantly. Brode agrees that that's information that definitely should have been revealed beforehand. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On November 13 2015 09:11 MrSandman wrote: I think you've understood the card better than most Senzari. Blizzard did not design this for high level competitive play, they designed it to appear in Trolden videos and get people enjoying trying new deck builds. And I am really looking forward to seeing the 1 to 30 health swing from a Reno Jackson play! I had this situation happen to me this weekend with a Warlock at 1hp. I proceeded to win anyways but it felt pretty bad on my end  | ||
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Eggi
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Reno is more of a tournament card than anything. It can be a good tech vs the different metagame of tournaments. Ladder is a whole nother hunter story | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
On November 18 2015 02:59 Eggi wrote: Just btw with people getting on the hype train and stuff. Reno is more of a tournament card than anything. It can be a good tech vs the different metagame of tournaments. Ladder is a whole nother hunter story I am having great results with Renolock on ladder - just ranked up from 11-5, though I probably could have done with a number of other decks as well, I am really enjoying this card, and the fact that your deck is so diverse! | ||
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Tiraz
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On November 12 2015 02:22 Winkers wrote: I think the fact that Dark Peddler replaces itself in hand, and potentially by a spell instead of a minion, is being forgotten by the writer. It most DEFINITELY can see play in other decks, and even has a ton of potential in Handlock for the very reason I outlined above. and the warlock 1 drops are pretty good, so you will almost always get a good card. I think this card is underrated in this list. I see it played in almost every warlock deck. | ||
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