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On March 22 2015 09:38 Drazerk wrote:
Well if you gold farm rank 20 then you're probably playing less than 25 games so it kind of works out in your favour and if you're farming gold anywhere else than rank 20 then you're doing it wrong anyhow
Right, I remember when you used to discuss the Rank 20 gold farming. What's a reasonable win rate doing it at Rank 20?
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On March 22 2015 07:48 Drazerk wrote:
Using your WoW example which used to be a real grind fest
Haha, Everquest has been well and truly forgotten!
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On March 22 2015 09:56 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 09:38 Drazerk wrote:
Well if you gold farm rank 20 then you're probably playing less than 25 games so it kind of works out in your favour and if you're farming gold anywhere else than rank 20 then you're doing it wrong anyhow Right, I remember when you used to discuss the Rank 20 gold farming. What's a reasonable win rate doing it at Rank 20?
Like 80-90% if you use a top tier control deck slightly lower if you use an aggro deck
On March 22 2015 10:01 idkfa wrote:Apropos of nothing: Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 07:48 Drazerk wrote:
Using your WoW example which used to be a real grind fest Haha, Everquest has been well and truly forgotten!
Na I remember that grind but he referenced WoW so I used that 
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On March 22 2015 10:08 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 09:56 kingjames01 wrote:On March 22 2015 09:38 Drazerk wrote:
Well if you gold farm rank 20 then you're probably playing less than 25 games so it kind of works out in your favour and if you're farming gold anywhere else than rank 20 then you're doing it wrong anyhow Right, I remember when you used to discuss the Rank 20 gold farming. What's a reasonable win rate doing it at Rank 20? Like 80-90% if you use a top tier control deck slightly lower if you use an aggro deck
Wow, that's so good! I didn't think it would be so high. I'm really impressed!
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On March 22 2015 11:09 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 10:08 Drazerk wrote:On March 22 2015 09:56 kingjames01 wrote:On March 22 2015 09:38 Drazerk wrote:
Well if you gold farm rank 20 then you're probably playing less than 25 games so it kind of works out in your favour and if you're farming gold anywhere else than rank 20 then you're doing it wrong anyhow Right, I remember when you used to discuss the Rank 20 gold farming. What's a reasonable win rate doing it at Rank 20? Like 80-90% if you use a top tier control deck slightly lower if you use an aggro deck Wow, that's so good! I didn't think it would be so high. I'm really impressed!
To be fair you're playing against people who use arcane missile turn 1 and play cards like Lord of the Arena / Inner Fire
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if you do your quests while playing arena you'll make enough gold for a wing in like 3-4 arena runs ... Not knowing what i'm trying to say ? lol
Do you just "farm gold" in casual or ranked?
If one is not good enough to earn gold through arena there is no point complaining. The gold price of wings is really low and affordable even if you play two days a week, if you are not bad that is.
And seems like you really just conveniently and overly counterargument my wow example when it was just one of the games I used to make a comparison.
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On March 22 2015 13:15 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
if you do your quests while playing arena you'll make enough gold for a wing in like 3-4 arena runs ...
And seems like you really just conveniently and overly counterargument my wow example when it was just one of the games I used to make a comparison.
www.speedrun.com - the average 100% completion for most games is within that 6 hour mark some much much shorter than that. I focused on WoW because you used it as a primary example.
I farm gold in ranked because its just easier to do than in casual and the fact I hate arena. I have a complete collection though so its not that much of a worry for me.
Also arena is designed so the majority cannot sustain it as a gold source anyone can see that
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25 games a day... yeah you can do it, if your sole puprose in life ist to not pay for BRM :D
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Am I missing out on something here? How can you rank 20 farm with a 80-90% winrate? You just end up gaining ranks until you hit stronger opponents?
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On March 22 2015 21:25 Zorgaz wrote:
Am I missing out on something here? How can you rank 20 farm with a 80-90% winrate? You just end up gaining ranks until you hit stronger opponents? Auto-concede to lose stars is what you are missing.
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On March 22 2015 13:15 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
if you do your quests while playing arena you'll make enough gold for a wing in like 3-4 arena runs ... Not knowing what i'm trying to say ? lol
Do you just "farm gold" in casual or ranked?
If one is not good enough to earn gold through arena there is no point complaining. The gold price of wings is really low and affordable even if you play two days a week, if you are not bad that is.
And seems like you really just conveniently and overly counterargument my wow example when it was just one of the games I used to make a comparison.
I honestly STILL do not know what you are trying to say. No one is complaining.
Anyway, back on topic, yet again:
I'm farming gold well enough. The day the new Adventure Mode was announced I put together a spreadsheet to keep track of my gold earnings. It also estimates how much per day I would need to be able to buy the wings the day they are released.
I had 240 Gold that day. I now have 1550 Gold. So in just 16 days, I've farmed 1310 Gold, or ~82 Gold per day.
However, I really kicked up my gold farming because we don't know the release date for the first wing of BRM. If we assume April 1 (which doesn't seem likely, but gives the worst timeframe for earning enough gold), I'll need to earn 51 Gold per day until April 29 to have enough for the 5th wing. However, if we assume April 30, then I'll only need to earn 29 Gold per day until May 28.
Let's do a worst-case scenario:
If I started from 0 Gold today and the first wing was released on April 1, then I would need 92 Gold per day to have enough to unlock every wing on release day.
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Well i see what you guys are saying but i certainly wouldn't enjoy playing that many games of hearthstone everyday. And auto-condeding just to stay at rank 20 seems like a waste of time. I'd rather spend a little money and do something else with my time. I tried farming Arena and have had decent success, but even though i average perhaps 7 wins that only gives me back what i spent so I think I'm just gonna end up buying it with money.
Honestly I think Hearthstone should have more daily quests or 10 gold every win in ranked or something but I understand Blizzard wants that profit.
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On March 22 2015 22:51 Zorgaz wrote:
Well i see what you guys are saying but i certainly wouldn't enjoy playing that many games of hearthstone everyday. And auto-condeding just to stay at rank 20 seems like a waste of time. I'd rather spend a little money and do something else with my time. I tried farming Arena and have had decent success, but even though i average perhaps 7 wins that only gives me back what i spent so I think I'm just gonna end up buying it with money.
Honestly I think Hearthstone should have more daily quests or 10 gold every win in ranked or something but I understand Blizzard wants that profit.
I honestly feel like they might actually do that sometime in the future to make up for people that start later in the game. Currently, if you were willing to earn one pack of cards a day, you could be playing anywhere from 7 (Absolute minimum, highly unlikely) to 36 (40g quest, 50% winrate) games A DAY 0_0
It's just not that fun, once you get above Rank 20 I've noticed a lot more legendaries in use, in which case, you, as a newbie, are majorly screwed.
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On March 22 2015 22:42 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 13:15 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
if you do your quests while playing arena you'll make enough gold for a wing in like 3-4 arena runs ... Not knowing what i'm trying to say ? lol
Do you just "farm gold" in casual or ranked?
If one is not good enough to earn gold through arena there is no point complaining. The gold price of wings is really low and affordable even if you play two days a week, if you are not bad that is.
And seems like you really just conveniently and overly counterargument my wow example when it was just one of the games I used to make a comparison. I honestly STILL do not know what you are trying to say. No one is complaining.
I'm gonna second this, Shrimp attacked people when they said that they started saving up much earlier because they wouldn't be able to farm 700g per week. It's like how someone with a lower income needs to save up longer if he wants to go on a vacation (compared to someone who's CEO of a multinational). Why are you picking a fight with people who are smartly saving because they don't have enough time? I know I'm saving up already with the goal to have 2k by the time BRM launches.
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And even if you don't have enough gold, so what, that's not Blizzard's problem. Don't think you're entitled to it. Its a consumer product, a business model, and Blizzard is doing what is sensible. It may be a deterrent to new players, but its like saying, I only started collecting vintage cars last year- thats your problem.
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It's Blizzard's problem if it deteriorates the casual player base that gives them most of their money, and it's our problem if they stop supporting the game due to a lack of profit. Let's say I tell myself "Okay, they fooled me once, but I'm sick of flushing money down the toilet so buh-bye Hearthstone." The deluge of new content we've been getting will have just been a fluke if loads of people walk away from the game because it's too expensive to unlock the game's content.
"Vintage car collector" is an insanely niche market that I think I can safely assume few if any of us here are part of, and the cars weren't made specifically for those people anyway - they were made for people who needed a car to drive somewhere. I don't think Blizzard intends for any of their games to be that exclusive.
Anyway, we're not entitled anything from Blizzard, but they're not entitled to our money either, so I think it's completely fair to express our frustration/buyer's remorse/whatever. Consider it a product review. I know they have to do the sensible thing and turn a profit to be sustainable. No one's asking for Blizzard's charity. People just want time and effort invested to be worth something. If they want to make money, it's their job to make us feel good about spending it. It's not my job as a consumer to sympathize with them.
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I tracked the card back of my last 23 games and 15 of my opponents had the new card back from BRM pre-ordering.
Other people are finding similar statistics?
I'm really blown out about how many people did pre-order the BRM adventure with real money.
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On March 24 2015 02:50 Origence wrote:
I tracked the card back of my last 23 games and 15 of my opponents had the new card back from BRM pre-ordering.
Other people are finding similar statistics?
I'm really blown out about how many people did pre-order the BRM adventure with real money.
Yeah, same here. Blizzard really hit the jackpot with Hearthstone apparently..
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Daily quest + good average wins in arena seems like the best way to make gold.
Also I think yeah its pretty damn pricey.
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On March 24 2015 02:50 Origence wrote:
I tracked the card back of my last 23 games and 15 of my opponents had the new card back from BRM pre-ordering.
Other people are finding similar statistics?
I'm really blown out about how many people did pre-order the BRM adventure with real money.
Played a good dozen games yesterday with my gimp'd control warrior deck. Mostly mech-mages. All had the BRM card-back. Blizzard must be sitting on a mountain of gold.
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