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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 22 2010 03:14 GMT
#841
Obama to speak in 10-15 minutes.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 22 2010 03:15 GMT
#842
Someone yelled Baby Killer while Stupak spoke, did not hear it.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-22 03:17:45
March 22 2010 03:15 GMT
#843
On March 22 2010 12:12 KunfO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2010 12:08 Jibba wrote:
On March 22 2010 12:05 KunfO wrote:
On March 22 2010 12:03 Jibba wrote:
On March 22 2010 12:02 KunfO wrote:
On March 22 2010 12:00 Jibba wrote:
On March 22 2010 11:56 KunfO wrote:
Republicans are now forcing all pro-life democrats to end their careers.

New House Speaker Inc.
Yeah, because Nancy Pelosi is really dependent upon the pro-life vote.

The pro-life democrats are being taken care of. That's what this weekend was all about.



Her election personally to the House? No.

The vote to decide the speaker of the house when there are 60 less Democrats? Yes.
I'm glad you've got your PhD in political science from an established Wikiversity.


Your criticizing me for knowing the obvious fact that the election of speaker of the house is different from Nancy Pelosi's personal election to the house?

btw Im only minoring in Political Science..

I'm criticizing you for claiming to know the outcome of the next sets of congressional elections, and assuming that the general public is in agreement with your own personal opinion.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/wsjnbcpoll03162010.pdf

http://people-press.org/reports/questionnaires/598.pdf

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/01/26/rel2c.pdf

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html#polls
I'm not in favor of HR 3590. That doesn't mean I'm against health care reform or that the issue is going to dictate my vote in November. Economy is still the top issue, and it's entirely possible that the issue and disastrous partisanship gets pinned on republicans.

You've made a jump from:
Small groups of people polled dislike HR 3590 -> small groups of people polled dislike health care reform -> small groups of people polled are angry at their congress people -> small groups of people polled will vote against incumbents because of health care reform -> everyone will vote against incumbents because of health care reform.
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
March 22 2010 03:16 GMT
#844
On March 22 2010 12:10 TanGeng wrote:
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On March 22 2010 11:38 KunfO wrote:
This will pass, but it won't pass the class action lawsuit of thousands of people against the government who will not stand to be forced to purchase insurance or be jailed. I know I'll be canceling my health insurance as soon as this bill is signed into law just so I can join it.


I'm excited for a possible nullification and interposition revival. Go sovereign states!


revival?

nullification was DOA.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
March 22 2010 03:17 GMT
#845
Congratulations to all Americans' for your new health care system
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
March 22 2010 03:18 GMT
#846
On March 22 2010 12:17 ggrrg wrote:
Congratulations to all Americans' for your new health care system

It's not a new system. Read the essay I posted a few pages ago.
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wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
March 22 2010 03:20 GMT
#847
On March 22 2010 12:18 Jibba wrote:
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On March 22 2010 12:17 ggrrg wrote:
Congratulations to all Americans' for your new health care system

It's not a new system. Read the essay I posted a few pages ago.

he said your fool
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 22 2010 03:20 GMT
#848
Recorded vote again to pass bill.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
March 22 2010 03:22 GMT
#849
i have no clue as to what this is but i'm assuming hospitals are finally free like as if to be in Canada, or Cuba, or all those other places. is that correct?
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-22 03:23:57
March 22 2010 03:22 GMT
#850
On March 22 2010 12:16 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2010 12:10 TanGeng wrote:
On March 22 2010 11:38 KunfO wrote:
This will pass, but it won't pass the class action lawsuit of thousands of people against the government who will not stand to be forced to purchase insurance or be jailed. I know I'll be canceling my health insurance as soon as this bill is signed into law just so I can join it.


I'm excited for a possible nullification and interposition revival. Go sovereign states!


revival?

nullification was DOA.


Nullification if you know your history is what the American Revolution was all about. After that it was what the American Civl War was all about. So reviving the nullification would mean testing the waters of the American revolution for the third time. It's been a while but it's not unprecedented on US soil, and it has succeeded before.

The US health care system hasn't really changed all that much really.
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Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
March 22 2010 03:22 GMT
#851
On March 22 2010 12:22 wishbones wrote:
i have no clue as to what this is but i'm assuming hospitals are finally free like as if to be in Canada, or Cuba, or all those other places. is that correct?


I wish.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
March 22 2010 03:24 GMT
#852
On March 22 2010 12:22 wishbones wrote:
i have no clue as to what this is but i'm assuming hospitals are finally free like as if to be in Canada, or Cuba, or all those other places. is that correct?

No, there is no national health care plan. That was called the public option.
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Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
March 22 2010 03:25 GMT
#853
So does this bill have any positive effects on doctors? Or will they just have to take on more patients with decreased Medicare payments?
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
March 22 2010 03:25 GMT
#854
This was basically the big step we needed. Now that we've broken down the barrier of having the same outdated load of crap forever, it is a lot more vulnerable to further government intervention. Hoping to see a public option by the end of Obama's second term.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
March 22 2010 03:25 GMT
#855
On March 22 2010 12:22 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2010 12:16 Mindcrime wrote:
On March 22 2010 12:10 TanGeng wrote:
On March 22 2010 11:38 KunfO wrote:
This will pass, but it won't pass the class action lawsuit of thousands of people against the government who will not stand to be forced to purchase insurance or be jailed. I know I'll be canceling my health insurance as soon as this bill is signed into law just so I can join it.


I'm excited for a possible nullification and interposition revival. Go sovereign states!


revival?

nullification was DOA.


Nullification if you know your history is what the American Revolution was all about. After that it was what the American Civl War was all about. So reviving the nullification would mean testing the waters of the American revolution for the third time. It's been a while but it's not unprecedented on US soil, and it has succeeded before.

The US health care system hasn't really changed all that much really.

Every state is dependent on the federal government for survival right now. Even Montana needs federal $$$ now.
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Wintermute
Profile Joined March 2010
United States427 Posts
March 22 2010 03:25 GMT
#856
On March 22 2010 08:36 TanGeng wrote:
[

What is this? Crying that the world is unfair? A post begging for sympathy? Justification for offloading some of your costs onto other individuals?

Anyway you look at it, you're buying into the "vote yourself money" mentality and no different from the kleptocrats that run the system. In fact, the kleptocrats thrive on that kind of mentality because they can throw bread crumbs to the masses and take the most of the pie.

If you want real compassion, if you want real morality, find it amongst your closest neighbors and friends. Politics isn't about "fairness" or "compassion" even if those ideas get invoked all the time. It's about dividing the spoils of war.


Who said I want compassion? Who said I am trying to be morally superior to the kleptocrats? I just want the people without all of the wealth and power to get their true value from a system that wrings them dry to build the wealth of a small minority, then discards them and tells them it's their own fault.

Whether it be fair or unfair, the reality is that for once in a long time, the trend of the wealthy few fleecing the majority has been reversed for a day.
Don't let me say this, but you're no worse than me; it's crazy.
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
March 22 2010 03:26 GMT
#857
On March 22 2010 12:24 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2010 12:22 wishbones wrote:
i have no clue as to what this is but i'm assuming hospitals are finally free like as if to be in Canada, or Cuba, or all those other places. is that correct?

No, there is no national health care plan. That was called the public option.

what? you mean it was on the table, and the "people" (ones who have jobs, and probably the richest of americans) said no.. wow.. how typical of snobs huh? fuckin greedy c***suckers
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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
March 22 2010 03:26 GMT
#858
200 (again)!
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 22 2010 03:27 GMT
#859
4 more Yea's needed.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
March 22 2010 03:29 GMT
#860
is this live, if so where at? wait let me check cnn.com most likely.
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
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