On July 27 2009 14:03 Loser777 wrote:
Scientology wasn't even directly threatening 4chan. Not only is this action provocative, it's completely against the ideology of 4chan.

How did that pan out anyways? I heard a few stunts against scientologists, then the FBI backing the scientologists. Did it end there?

BuGzlToOnl

United States5918 Posts

July 27 2009 05:06 GMT

#42

I love ED they have a way of writing that sends chills down my back and make things sound really interesting.

DeathByMonkeys

United States742 Posts

July 27 2009 05:08 GMT

#43

Noooo not my 4chan! I think AT&T just fucked themselves... do they know what anon is capable of?

GrandInquisitor

New York City13113 Posts

July 27 2009 05:08 GMT

#44

On July 27 2009 14:03 Gene wrote:
can someone explain why 4chan constantly being DDOS'd has any affect on AT&T?

On July 27 2009 14:04 travis wrote:

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I don't think you know what you are talking about.

TO EVERYONE SAYING THEY TOOK IT DOWN BECAUSE OF DDOS ATTACKS

could u pls explain the rational behind this?

how do the ddos attacks against 4chan effect at&t subscribers? how does it effect anyone other than the servers that host 4chan? your reasoning makes no sense.

DDoS = distributed denial of service

a lot of machines that are on AT&T bandwidth are attacking 4chan's servers

this is bad both for 4chan and for AT&T, because it uses up a lot of bandwidth on both ends

AT&T can only stop this by preventing access to the 4chan server

epicdoom

United States489 Posts

July 27 2009 05:09 GMT

#45

oh my..
take a peek at this guys o.o

http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/94pf2/att_is_now_blocking_all_access_to_img4chanorg/c0bf7y6

Adeny

Norway1233 Posts

July 27 2009 05:10 GMT

#46

Travis it's blocking the inter-tubes so that legitimate users are not able to do whatever they were doing I suppose.

MeriaDoKk

Chile1726 Posts

July 27 2009 05:10 GMT

#47

On July 27 2009 14:08 GrandInquisitor wrote:

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So they can't like track the people doing the DDoS attacks?

SonuvBob

Aiur21550 Posts

July 27 2009 05:11 GMT

#48

On July 27 2009 14:03 Gene wrote:
can someone explain why 4chan constantly being DDOS'd has any affect on AT&T?

DDOSes typically use tons of compromised personal computers, many of which would using AT&T as an ISP. So the combined bandwidth they're using is immense. If that's the case I dunno why they can't block only the ones that are throwing all their bandwidth 4chan's way though. Maybe this is just a temporary thing til they can set that up.

Integra

Sweden5626 Posts

July 27 2009 05:11 GMT

#49

Let's see who wins, AT&T or the Internet. My bet is on the Internet.

Aphelion

United States2720 Posts

July 27 2009 05:12 GMT

#50

I can't wait to see the shit storm AT&T is going to find themselves in.

Cyrkulous

United States204 Posts

July 27 2009 05:12 GMT

#51

Yeahhhh I think AT&T bit off a little more than they could chew.

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

July 27 2009 05:13 GMT

#52

On July 27 2009 14:08 GrandInquisitor wrote:

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you don't see the many flaws in this logic?

1.) if the attacks are coming from at&t users, it's at&t's responsibility to shut down those users...
2.) no one ever contacted 4chan about it
3.) the bulk of the attacks were happening quite a while ago
4.) blocking a domain to every user (millions of people), because some people were sending ddos attacks is unprecedented, ridiculous, and a blatant breach of freedoms. 4chan is hardly the only site to face ddos attacks.

but really... #1 is the only one that matters. to block the site because their own users are attacking the site is ridiculous. it's like banning a kid from a public school because some bullies were picking on him.

DanceCommander

United States1808 Posts

July 27 2009 05:15 GMT

#53

Well 4chan says this is going to be a legit legal battle, but something tells me it'll be a little rougher than that lol

Zzoram

Canada7115 Posts

July 27 2009 05:16 GMT

#54

4chan isn't organized or serious enough to do anything of significance to a large corporate entity

they've barely done anything to actually harm scientology, and only made themselves look like thugs in the process, which they are, since they just bully kids or individuals that they randomly decide they don't like

fans of the TV show Jericho can get the show back on the air by sending 10,000 pounds of nuts to CBS headquarters, but 4chan can't do anything but stand outside a scientology office with signs with 4chan memes and make angry phone calls to bloggers

Eggplant

United States120 Posts

July 27 2009 05:18 GMT

#55

this should not be considered a "war" of sorts. a DDOS attack means that you have a bajillion people trying to connect to a site in an attempt to flood the server.

AT&T is blocking the site, because many of those bajillions of people connecting to the site are using AT&T. Thus, the easiest, most surefire way to end the DDOS is to block traffic to 4chan, temporarily, from their users.

I don't think this has anything to do with net neutrality.

RLTY

United States965 Posts

July 27 2009 05:20 GMT

#56

I think the people that are supporting AT&T are not realizing the full extent of the problem. I mean, lots of us are anti-4chan people, but the problem here is CENSORSHIP. The real battle here is for net neutrality and a 'free' internet.

konadora

Singapore66363 Posts

July 27 2009 05:20 GMT

#57

On July 27 2009 13:50 ZoW wrote:

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This is going to be so good

SpiritWolf

United States127 Posts

July 27 2009 05:21 GMT

#58

On July 27 2009 14:20 icemac wrote:
I think the people that are supporting AT&T are not realizing the full extent of the problem. I mean, lots of us are anti-4chan people, but the problem here is CENSORSHIP. The real battle here is for net neutrality and a 'free' internet.

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

July 27 2009 05:21 GMT

#59

On July 27 2009 14:18 Eggplant wrote:
this should not be considered a "war" of sorts. a DDOS attack means that you have a bajillion people trying to connect to a site in an attempt to flood the server.

AT&T is blocking the site, because many of those bajillions of people connecting to the site are using AT&T. Thus, the easiest, most surefire way to end the DDOS is to block traffic to 4chan, temporarily, from their users.

I don't think this has anything to do with net neutrality.

I think that anyone who looks at the history of the internet should disagree with this...

DDOS attacks are not something new. Blocking a domain to an entire nation because some users are making extra traffic is not how any responsible company handles it.

Zzoram

Canada7115 Posts

July 27 2009 05:21 GMT

#60

I really think people are over reacting. There is no clear evidence that AT&T is trying to censor anyone. This will all blow over in a few days.