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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On July 27 2009 14:03 Loser777 wrote: Scientology wasn't even directly threatening 4chan. Not only is this action provocative, it's completely against the ideology of 4chan. How did that pan out anyways? I heard a few stunts against scientologists, then the FBI backing the scientologists. Did it end there? | ||
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
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DeathByMonkeys
United States742 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On July 27 2009 14:03 Gene wrote: can someone explain why 4chan constantly being DDOS'd has any affect on AT&T? On July 27 2009 14:04 travis wrote: I don't think you know what you are talking about. TO EVERYONE SAYING THEY TOOK IT DOWN BECAUSE OF DDOS ATTACKS could u pls explain the rational behind this? how do the ddos attacks against 4chan effect at&t subscribers? how does it effect anyone other than the servers that host 4chan? your reasoning makes no sense. DDoS = distributed denial of service a lot of machines that are on AT&T bandwidth are attacking 4chan's servers this is bad both for 4chan and for AT&T, because it uses up a lot of bandwidth on both ends AT&T can only stop this by preventing access to the 4chan server | ||
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epicdoom
United States489 Posts
take a peek at this guys o.o http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/94pf2/att_is_now_blocking_all_access_to_img4chanorg/c0bf7y6 | ||
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Adeny
Norway1233 Posts
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
On July 27 2009 14:08 GrandInquisitor wrote: DDoS = distributed denial of service a lot of machines that are on AT&T bandwidth are attacking 4chan's servers this is bad both for 4chan and for AT&T, because it uses up a lot of bandwidth on both ends AT&T can only stop this by preventing access to the 4chan server So they can't like track the people doing the DDoS attacks? | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On July 27 2009 14:03 Gene wrote: can someone explain why 4chan constantly being DDOS'd has any affect on AT&T? DDOSes typically use tons of compromised personal computers, many of which would using AT&T as an ISP. So the combined bandwidth they're using is immense. If that's the case I dunno why they can't block only the ones that are throwing all their bandwidth 4chan's way though. Maybe this is just a temporary thing til they can set that up. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
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Cyrkulous
United States204 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On July 27 2009 14:08 GrandInquisitor wrote: DDoS = distributed denial of service a lot of machines that are on AT&T bandwidth are attacking 4chan's servers this is bad both for 4chan and for AT&T, because it uses up a lot of bandwidth on both ends AT&T can only stop this by preventing access to the 4chan server you don't see the many flaws in this logic? 1.) if the attacks are coming from at&t users, it's at&t's responsibility to shut down those users... 2.) no one ever contacted 4chan about it 3.) the bulk of the attacks were happening quite a while ago 4.) blocking a domain to every user (millions of people), because some people were sending ddos attacks is unprecedented, ridiculous, and a blatant breach of freedoms. 4chan is hardly the only site to face ddos attacks. but really... #1 is the only one that matters. to block the site because their own users are attacking the site is ridiculous. it's like banning a kid from a public school because some bullies were picking on him. | ||
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
they've barely done anything to actually harm scientology, and only made themselves look like thugs in the process, which they are, since they just bully kids or individuals that they randomly decide they don't like fans of the TV show Jericho can get the show back on the air by sending 10,000 pounds of nuts to CBS headquarters, but 4chan can't do anything but stand outside a scientology office with signs with 4chan memes and make angry phone calls to bloggers | ||
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Eggplant
United States120 Posts
AT&T is blocking the site, because many of those bajillions of people connecting to the site are using AT&T. Thus, the easiest, most surefire way to end the DDOS is to block traffic to 4chan, temporarily, from their users. I don't think this has anything to do with net neutrality. | ||
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RLTY
United States965 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66355 Posts
 This is going to be so good | ||
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SpiritWolf
United States127 Posts
On July 27 2009 14:20 icemac wrote: I think the people that are supporting AT&T are not realizing the full extent of the problem. I mean, lots of us are anti-4chan people, but the problem here is CENSORSHIP. The real battle here is for net neutrality and a 'free' internet. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On July 27 2009 14:18 Eggplant wrote: this should not be considered a "war" of sorts. a DDOS attack means that you have a bajillion people trying to connect to a site in an attempt to flood the server. AT&T is blocking the site, because many of those bajillions of people connecting to the site are using AT&T. Thus, the easiest, most surefire way to end the DDOS is to block traffic to 4chan, temporarily, from their users. I don't think this has anything to do with net neutrality. I think that anyone who looks at the history of the internet should disagree with this... DDOS attacks are not something new. Blocking a domain to an entire nation because some users are making extra traffic is not how any responsible company handles it. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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