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On July 27 2009 15:19 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Sooo, whos going to win this scuffle? you all sound like 4chan is going to rape at@t, which is surprising because its a website vs a corporation. I guess 4chan has powerful hackers, or?? Guess im an internet newb? :O
More likely that some 13 year old nerds will order 17123495 pizzas to be delivered to the CEO of AT&T. They might also DDoS AT&T websites in a curious turnabout of events, but that's more of a stretch.
So in essence nothing harmless, although very annoying and potentially quite hilarious to watch.
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On July 27 2009 15:23 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2009 15:21 mahnini wrote:On July 27 2009 15:20 Aegraen wrote:On July 27 2009 15:18 Gene wrote:
Aegrean, like i said before. Should AT&T unfortunately designate someone to make a statement about this publicly, /b/ will know where he or she lives immediately. They will know their phone number. It wouldn't be the greatest day of their life.
Naive people are naive. This is the easiest way for the FBI to descend rapidly on everyone who does this and trust me, they can track down whoever will be doing this. I also like how you threaten civil disobedience because you can't access 4chan. USE THE FUCKING LEGAL SYSTEM DON'T BECOME CRIMINALS. Fuck. lol u a dumbofoshumbo. i dont know if i want to get involved in this so ill just lob passive aggressive replies from the sidelines until im satisfied. Speak English. I'll just refer to everyone who agrees with the former sentiment from now on as a Criminal.
there's a couple of quotes in that quote which quote is your quote referring to??
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nobody is advocating anything. i was just simply stating a hypothetical response to your "AT&T IS TECHNICALLY ALL POWERFUL YOU ARE NAIVE" attitude.
So you admit that throwing around the words civil disobedience was compeletely irrelevant to the topic at hand?
Are you posting just for the sake of arguing with people?
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On July 27 2009 15:26 Gene wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2009 15:23 Aegraen wrote:On July 27 2009 15:21 mahnini wrote:On July 27 2009 15:20 Aegraen wrote:On July 27 2009 15:18 Gene wrote:
Aegrean, like i said before. Should AT&T unfortunately designate someone to make a statement about this publicly, /b/ will know where he or she lives immediately. They will know their phone number. It wouldn't be the greatest day of their life.
Naive people are naive. This is the easiest way for the FBI to descend rapidly on everyone who does this and trust me, they can track down whoever will be doing this. I also like how you threaten civil disobedience because you can't access 4chan. USE THE FUCKING LEGAL SYSTEM DON'T BECOME CRIMINALS. Fuck. lol u a dumbofoshumbo. i dont know if i want to get involved in this so ill just lob passive aggressive replies from the sidelines until im satisfied. Speak English. I'll just refer to everyone who agrees with the former sentiment from now on as a Criminal. So you're trying to say people that dont speak english are criminals?
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying, how could anyone mistake those 4 posts. /sarc
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people should try a freeway protest where they just organize a line or cars and stop randomly. that would be either the most successful or violent protests ever.
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On July 27 2009 15:27 mahnini wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2009 15:23 Aegraen wrote:On July 27 2009 15:21 mahnini wrote:On July 27 2009 15:20 Aegraen wrote:On July 27 2009 15:18 Gene wrote:
Aegrean, like i said before. Should AT&T unfortunately designate someone to make a statement about this publicly, /b/ will know where he or she lives immediately. They will know their phone number. It wouldn't be the greatest day of their life.
Naive people are naive. This is the easiest way for the FBI to descend rapidly on everyone who does this and trust me, they can track down whoever will be doing this. I also like how you threaten civil disobedience because you can't access 4chan. USE THE FUCKING LEGAL SYSTEM DON'T BECOME CRIMINALS. Fuck. lol u a dumbofoshumbo. i dont know if i want to get involved in this so ill just lob passive aggressive replies from the sidelines until im satisfied. Speak English. I'll just refer to everyone who agrees with the former sentiment from now on as a Criminal. there's a couple of quotes in that quote which quote is your quote referring to??
I thought it was obvious as there was only one Criminal action being advocated in the set of posts, but I'll highlight it for you:
Aegrean, like i said before. Should AT&T unfortunately designate someone to make a statement about this publicly, /b/ will know where he or she lives immediately. They will know their phone number. It wouldn't be the greatest day of their life.
Naive people are naive.
This is not what you want to do. This is not how you act.
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On July 27 2009 15:19 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Sooo, whos going to win this scuffle? you all sound like 4chan is going to rape at@t, which is surprising because its a website vs a corporation. I guess 4chan has powerful hackers, or?? Guess im an internet newb? :O
no. people seem to think 4chan has a team of supermen ready to attack poor, weak at&t in some vague but devastating way. it's not just a website vs a corporation, it's a multi multi MULTI billion dollar entity that has a little bit of tech savvy.
if this is anything nefarious on at&t's part, the legal route should (and probably will) be taken by 4chan and whomever else. despite how funny it is to say otherwise, at&t is not staffed by a bunch of computer illiterate seniors.
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this isnt going to be a permanent thing. there isnt going to be legal anythings. people are blowing this SO far out of proportion.
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gene, 4chan is down. the end is nigh.
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Canada8031 Posts
On July 27 2009 15:30 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2009 15:27 mahnini wrote:On July 27 2009 15:23 Aegraen wrote:On July 27 2009 15:21 mahnini wrote:On July 27 2009 15:20 Aegraen wrote:On July 27 2009 15:18 Gene wrote:
Aegrean, like i said before. Should AT&T unfortunately designate someone to make a statement about this publicly, /b/ will know where he or she lives immediately. They will know their phone number. It wouldn't be the greatest day of their life.
Naive people are naive. This is the easiest way for the FBI to descend rapidly on everyone who does this and trust me, they can track down whoever will be doing this. I also like how you threaten civil disobedience because you can't access 4chan. USE THE FUCKING LEGAL SYSTEM DON'T BECOME CRIMINALS. Fuck. lol u a dumbofoshumbo. i dont know if i want to get involved in this so ill just lob passive aggressive replies from the sidelines until im satisfied. Speak English. I'll just refer to everyone who agrees with the former sentiment from now on as a Criminal. there's a couple of quotes in that quote which quote is your quote referring to?? I thought it was obvious as there was only one Criminal action being advocated in the set of posts, but I'll highlight it for you: Aegrean, like i said before. Should AT&T unfortunately designate someone to make a statement about this publicly, /b/ will know where he or she lives immediately. They will know their phone number. It wouldn't be the greatest day of their life.
Naive people are naive.This is not what you want to do. This is not how you act.
/b/ isn't exactly populated with the most mature people in the world, you know. Telling people to do somethings (such as on the ED page) is one thing. Getting them to follow is another matter entirely.
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Aegrean I'm convinced you have no idea what 4chan is or what it's capable of. When they want to those guys are VERY organized. Go look up the Anon movements. They aren't just a bunch of little internet nerds - a lot of those people actually know and work in the IT industry. If it ever came down to a "war" AT&T would lose lots of $$ fighting against them.
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On July 27 2009 15:30 choboPEon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2009 15:19 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Sooo, whos going to win this scuffle? you all sound like 4chan is going to rape at@t, which is surprising because its a website vs a corporation. I guess 4chan has powerful hackers, or?? Guess im an internet newb? :O no. people seem to think 4chan has a team of supermen ready to attack poor, weak at&t in some vague but devastating way. it's not just a website vs a corporation, it's a multi multi MULTI billion dollar entity that has a little bit of tech savvy. if this is anything nefarious on at&t's part, the legal route should (and probably will) be taken by 4chan and whomever else. despite how funny it is to say otherwise, at&t is not staffed by a bunch of computer illiterate seniors.
lol ATT has already lifted their block. Took less than a day for 4chan to win.
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AT&T Lifted it fearing a massive PR backlash. They know 4chan can easily spread harsh rumors to legitimate sites. The little boy crying Censorship about a mega corp could hurt stock.
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On July 27 2009 15:12 Orlandu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2009 15:07 koOl wrote:
hmm..maybe at&t already gave up? it says on that encyclopedia dramatica article that people are reporting being unblocked It's not that AT&T is "giving up." It's that as they gain control of the attacks and deal with the situation, they're able to slowly return to normal operations, which means lifting whatever blocks were set in place. This just further shows that this wasn't about censorship or net neutrality at all.
Yup.
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On July 27 2009 15:34 Ace wrote:
Aegrean I'm convinced you have no idea what 4chan is or what it's capable of. When they want to those guys are VERY organized. Go look up the Anon movements. They aren't just a bunch of little internet nerds - a lot of those people actually know and work in the IT industry. If it ever came down to a "war" AT&T would lose lots of $$ fighting against them.
That's a pretty big IF. A lot of 4chan are just teenagers and people in their 20's - probably what you'd expect if you took a cross-section of any other site (i.e. TL) except without the need or desire to conform to any sort of posting etiquette. Those with jobs and the know-how are older and probably wouldn't commit themselves to any sort of childish raid unless it was serious.
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it is over?? that was fast lol
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On July 27 2009 15:43 d3_crescentia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2009 15:34 Ace wrote:
Aegrean I'm convinced you have no idea what 4chan is or what it's capable of. When they want to those guys are VERY organized. Go look up the Anon movements. They aren't just a bunch of little internet nerds - a lot of those people actually know and work in the IT industry. If it ever came down to a "war" AT&T would lose lots of $$ fighting against them. That's a pretty big IF. A lot of 4chan are just teenagers and people in their 20's - probably what you'd expect if you took a cross-section of any other site (i.e. TL) except without the need or desire to conform to any sort of posting etiquette. Those with jobs and the know-how are older and probably wouldn't commit themselves to any sort of childish raid unless it was serious.
Oh I agree - I doubt the older members would do something like try and destroy AT&T. My point is that they are entirely capable of wrecking havoc. Aegrean assumes that these are unskilled net users that have no idea how to accomplish the very things they are known for.
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Am I the only that actually understands what 4chan owner gave permission to AT&T means?
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On July 27 2009 15:52 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2009 15:43 d3_crescentia wrote:On July 27 2009 15:34 Ace wrote:
Aegrean I'm convinced you have no idea what 4chan is or what it's capable of. When they want to those guys are VERY organized. Go look up the Anon movements. They aren't just a bunch of little internet nerds - a lot of those people actually know and work in the IT industry. If it ever came down to a "war" AT&T would lose lots of $$ fighting against them. That's a pretty big IF. A lot of 4chan are just teenagers and people in their 20's - probably what you'd expect if you took a cross-section of any other site (i.e. TL) except without the need or desire to conform to any sort of posting etiquette. Those with jobs and the know-how are older and probably wouldn't commit themselves to any sort of childish raid unless it was serious. Oh I agree - I doubt the older members would do something like try and destroy AT&T. My point is that they are entirely capable of wrecking havoc. Aegrean assumes that these are unskilled net users that have no idea how to accomplish the very things they are known for.
No, I assume a Mega-Corp and the Government can tackle some nefarious "hackers" trying to undermine an entity that controls 25% of Americas Communication infrastructure.
Anyone even advocating something so absurd and thinks it will actually be fruitful is living in the clouds. Do you know how many business' rely on the internet? Do you know how much AT&T corners this market? Do you know what the Interstate Commerce Clause and the various Government Law Enforcement agencies designed to combat this will do?
We all have to fight censorship, but acting like rogue hackers and thinking it will actually help your cause borders on orwellian I'm sorry.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
lots of dumb posts up in here
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