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Ganjamaster
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Rhythm.102
United States56 Posts
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3657170.stm In FPS the majority of people kicked on the spot from the lobby are those with a "BR" tag, and those that do hack include a "BR" tag at the end of their name because fellow "BR" wont vote to kick them during game. | ||
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PacketOverflow
United States80 Posts
On February 16 2011 03:33 Elegy wrote: My limited knowledge of Brazil tells me that wealth is extremely concentrated, as it often is, in the hands of a select group of elite landowners who own vast tracts of land, both developed and underdeveloped. President Lula da Silva's policies aided in the development of a Brazilian "middle class", but from what I know, it's not exactly what Westerners would consider a comfortable life...to my knowledge, only the wealthy in Brazil have a comparably Western lifestyle. Naturally, I could be completely wrong. I believe there were some Brazilian members who posted in the thread during the favela incidents last year, they'll be able to provide a better picture. Are you looking to live in Brazil permanently or merely visit for an extended period? Visit but curious about living permenantly. I'm trying to learn as much as possible so that my visit isn't a waste like only seeing the tourist parts and thinking "wow this is great!" without knowing anything about what it would be like to live there. I was more interested in the larger developed cities (or parts of cities) like Rio and São Paulo. Like I said I don't know an educated and experienced american would fair living and working in middle/upper-middle class brazil, as I have a hard time finding out information on middle/upper-middle class brazil period! It's hard to find information about life there aside from tourism and the bad sides. I really feel like I'd love the climate and the culture in the city and I can't wait to visit, but i don't know if a decent living there is just a pipe dream or not. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
On February 16 2011 03:25 PacketOverflow wrote: Great thread guys! I've been planning on visiting Rio and hearing facts and opinions from natives was an interesting read. Gotta love international communities like TL  However, I only ever hear about tourism, the poor, crime, and corruption. Is it really so bad outside the tourist areas? No. There are a lot of dangerous places, but usually they are near the poor areas. What you probably see on TV is the extreme side, but Brazil is a violent country yes if you compare to Germany for example. Are there no comfortable middle class areas? Of course there is lol? I also hear about how poor the education system is. Are there no real jobs outside of tourism then? The public education system overall is bad indeed. However, it is not true for a huge amount of schools/universities. Here I am, a guy who studied in public school in the 1st, 5nd series and the whole highschool. I must say that I always had good dedicated teachers. Rightnow I'm 22 and completing my degree in Computer Science in a federal university and I have nothing to complain about. Also, how would a middle class american with a college education and several years experience in an IT related field do there? I guess I'm just trying to get a better understanding of things there besides all the topics that get hyped. I don't want to wander around with a head full of stereotypical information. I want to know how the Brazilian equivalents of myself live over there. Sorry if these sound like stupid questions to anyone. IT jobs are plenty here due to the lack of capacitation. You would certainly have no trouble at all in finding a job, and depending on your experience, the companies might actually fight fiercely for you lol How much does a middle class american make per month? Because I'm almost sure the american middle class is much different from a brazilian middle class. | ||
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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
On February 16 2011 03:33 Elegy wrote: My limited knowledge of Brazil tells me that wealth is extremely concentrated, as it often is, in the hands of a select group of elite landowners who own vast tracts of land, both developed and underdeveloped. President Lula da Silva's policies aided in the development of a Brazilian "middle class", but from what I know, it's not exactly what Westerners would consider a comfortable life...to my knowledge, only the wealthy in Brazil have a comparably Western lifestyle. Naturally, I could be completely wrong. I believe there were some Brazilian members who posted in the thread during the favela incidents last year, they'll be able to provide a better picture. Are you looking to live in Brazil permanently or merely visit for an extended period? Yeah, the wealth is concentrated in the hands of few, but it could be worse than it is. Lula did try to aid the middle class, creating some kinds of monthly payments like "Bolsa Escola" where you get some cash for having your kids at school, and stuff like that. Some people say it's just some kind of "donation" that shouldn't exist, that costs a lot to the government, a money that could be invested in other areas, while also claiming some people even get pregnant on purpose just to have this kind of income. Corruption is something we have great problems with, can't even describe how bad it is. The public education is really poor, mostly at schools, but some of the Universities are actually pretty good. There's a lot of diversity here, so you have a great variety of jobs avaiable, but you probably won't be the only one looking for the spots, so you might struggle a bit to get one, but of course it depends on the field you want to work, and the place you're going to live. I had no problems finding jobs as a java programmer at the northeast region. You probably wouldn't have difficulties finding a job either, seeing you have years of experience, as long as you could connect and comunicate well, to get to know people and find the right spots. As to aspects of Rio itself, I leave it to people who live there to talk about //tx | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
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3JeanPierre3
Peru43 Posts
, Rede Globo (channel), They breathe football and ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/jKcQr.jpg) and more.... | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
That and bad government was what caused hundreds of slums, but recently, the police and the politicians seem to have got their act toghether, favelas are being invaded by the police and they build a police station so they dont lose control, they are doing that systematically and owning the dealers. The times where anyone thought the gangsters could actually do anything other than limited burst of scare tatics when confronting the police are over. Theres places in rio that could make you forget you are in a city with so many slums, like Barra da Tijuca for instance, a place where tons of wealthy live and theres no slums nearby. Rio is great, and if you prepare properly talking to natives like us, you should not have any problem. Violence is going down by an order of magnitude, and its mostly limited to poor places, as a tourist, you wont ever put yourself in a dangerous place unless you want to | ||
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Xglutlewl
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On June 19 2009 10:19 D10 wrote: I was talking with a friend of mine that came back from a season at the states and he says that 99% percent of americans dont know anything at all about Brazil, he even said that a few friends he made back there still believe today that he has a monkey servant. I realize this is average than normal, but still, what do you know ? What comes to mind beyond carnaval, samba and soccer ? Sorry if this feels like a useless thread. Home of some of the best mixed martial arts fighters in the world. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
terrific fighters, some of my all time favorites (nog brothers, jacare, shogun, arona) and of course soccer fans, rio and all the corny stuff people think about. | ||
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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
On February 16 2011 04:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: I know that I wouldn't mind living there. Women, the economy, beaches, Soccer, soccer women. Brazilian soccer sucks big time. I mean the games on TV. The teams are just not good, in my opinion. That's probably because every good player leaves to European teams, and then our tournaments aren't as good as Europeans. That's my thoughts though. //tx | ||
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PacketOverflow
United States80 Posts
On February 16 2011 04:16 fabiano wrote: No. There are a lot of dangerous places, but usually they are near the poor areas. What you probably see on TV is the extreme side, but Brazil is a violent country yes if you compare to Germany for example. Of course there is lol? The public education system overall is bad indeed. However, it is not true for a huge amount of schools/universities. Here I am, a guy who studied in public school in the 1st, 5nd series and the whole highschool. I must say that I always had good dedicated teachers. Rightnow I'm 22 and completing my degree in Computer Science in a federal university and I have nothing to complain about. IT jobs are plenty here due to the lack of capacitation. You would certainly have no trouble at all in finding a job, and depending on your experience, the companies might actually fight fiercely for you lol How much does a middle class american make per month? Because I'm almost sure the american middle class is much different from a brazilian middle class. This is pretty nice to hear. Middle class income in the US is around $44k iirc. I'm aware I'd probably have to work at a monetary loss in Brazil compared to the US, but it would be worth it if I end up really enjoying the place. If it really would be possible to live decently with a decent job, while enjoying life in Brazil, I very may well do just that depending on how well the visit goes. | ||
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BeefyKnight
United States127 Posts
You may end up with more then you bargained for... Other then that I don't know much about Brazil. But you guys wanted my clans castle in L2 REALLY bad. ^.^ | ||
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PacketOverflow
United States80 Posts
On February 16 2011 04:44 D10 wrote: Rio has tons of slums, because for a long time it was one of the most prosperous cities in the country (and the most prosperous by far with a beach) people came from all over the country, specially poor regions to try to make their life in rio. That and bad government was what caused hundreds of slums, but recently, the police and the politicians seem to have got their act toghether, favelas are being invaded by the police and they build a police station so they dont lose control, they are doing that systematically and owning the dealers. The times where anyone thought the gangsters could actually do anything other than limited burst of scare tatics when confronting the police are over. Theres places in rio that could make you forget you are in a city with so many slums, like Barra da Tijuca for instance, a place where tons of wealthy live and theres no slums nearby. Rio is great, and if you prepare properly talking to natives like us, you should not have any problem. Violence is going down by an order of magnitude, and its mostly limited to poor places, as a tourist, you wont ever put yourself in a dangerous place unless you want to This is very nice to hear as well! I wasn't planning on wandering into the slums anyway but it's good to hear that the place is cleaning up. Of course I plan on mixing with the natives, there's no way I'd plan to live and work in Brazil without learning Portuguese and being social. Do you know what a good way is to get connections in order to help one settle in should one choose to live there? Are there online programs or something where foreigners can get local contacts and friends? | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
On February 16 2011 05:05 PacketOverflow wrote: This is very nice to hear as well! I wasn't planning on wandering into the slums anyway but it's good to hear that the place is cleaning up. Of course I plan on mixing with the natives, there's no way I'd plan to live and work in Brazil without learning Portuguese and being social. Do you know what a good way is to get connections in order to help one settle in should one choose to live there? Are there online programs or something where foreigners can get local contacts and friends? Probably, theres also many foreigners living here, 5 minutes from my house theres a church that functions in english for the first session of the day Ill keep my radar up for that and if I find out anything ill post here, also, feel free to send me a PM asking questions me and my friends are wealthy people who all speak english, and we would be glad to give you a hand. PS: a side note, night life in rio is very intense, and can really screw your schedule, people arrive at the clubs at midnight and leave 5 am! | ||
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phyren
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