EPT[Guide] A Hackintosh How to: From the Ground Up - Page 3
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Abstruse
United States32 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On June 30 2009 13:49 Abstruse wrote: Wait, is this only for Macintosh? Because I would have just wasted 3 hours 23 minutes of my life for nothing... What do you mean "only"? And what did you think it is...?  Great guide btw, just read it  | ||
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agarfin
United States106 Posts
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maltice
United States28 Posts
If I am not overclocking (yet) what settings in bios are actually needed to install macos? Is there anything inparticular that has to get changed? Anyway, following the guide and hoping in try installing tonight. Thanks a bunch. -maltice | ||
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irishash
United States285 Posts
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
On June 30 2009 13:49 Abstruse wrote: Wait, is this only for Macintosh? Because I would have just wasted 3 hours 23 minutes of my life for nothing... No, you use a windows disk. Just skip all of the software steps and use Vista/Windows 7 RC, or whatever. On June 30 2009 14:11 agarfin wrote: Was there any particular reason you set FSB and vcore values in the bios instead of letting run at the auto detect values? This could cause a lot of problems for people simply following the directions as every cpu is different, even ones of the same type (different steppings). Ive never tried to install OSX like this before, is that actually a necessary step? I set the FSB and voltage settings manually because this is also an overclocking guide. It is for that specific CPU, as per the directions, and if you do not have that CPU then you should not follow those overclocking guidelines. Those voltages will work for both steppings of the Q9550 that are available right now. If you have the superior stepping then you could probably lower the voltage, but since you are still within Intel specs it is not a concern. If you have a different processor then you should probably just google around for other people's settings. Max voltages can easily be ascertained on Intel's website. Just look up your CPU and its max operating voltage and temperature. Each CPU usually has a few batches, so make sure you pick the proper stepping. FSB walls exist for CPUs as well and it is up to you to determine yours via testing. You can install OS X without those overclocking settings. You do NEED to change the storage/HDD configuration to AHCI, other than that, OS X does not require much in the BIOS. Also, all 1066MHz RAM takes more than the default voltage, so you have to up that in the BIOS anytime one builds a computer. On July 03 2009 05:47 maltice wrote: Hey, thanks for the guide! Very sweet. I have a question along the lines that agarfin is asking... If I am not overclocking (yet) what settings in bios are actually needed to install macos? Is there anything inparticular that has to get changed? Anyway, following the guide and hoping in try installing tonight. Thanks a bunch. -maltice Yes, AHCI and 2.1V/+.3V (at least for my RAM) need to be changed. On July 03 2009 06:25 irishash wrote: i hear these hackintoshes aren't going to be able to boot up snow leopard when it's released, or that the required components would change at least. anyone know anything about that? i'd love to run os x but a high end mac is out of my budget for sure. You can run beta Snow Leopard on this hardware right now. Obviously, since it is a different OS you would need to re-install/change some of the drivers. Just like if you moved from XP to Vista. Since Snow Leopard is not released yet I did not see much point in trying to include directions that would probably be inaccurate when the final product hits the shelves. | ||
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jacktheripper
Australia21 Posts
im getting the ep45-ud3L motherboard, so i presume i follow those steps. getting the e8400 processor, so what you say is that i google something about this, lol? sorry about all the questions, i just want to make config as smooth as possible | ||
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
You can apply up to 1.3625V and a temp of 72C and stay within Intel's specifications. Ideally you want to peak at about 65C or less though. Your CPU has a multiplier of x9, so you can still set it for 424FSB without any problems. I would say that for that particular CPU you can actually follow the guide exactly. Your CPU should theoretically go a bit higher, perhaps up to 4GHz even, but since you don't know exactly what you are doing I would not bother. What you should do is test the temperatures on that CPU. Windows Programs are preferable, but not everyone is dual-booting. For Windows: OCCT http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/index.php?Download All in one tool that gives temperatures and allows you to test CPU stability by setting the test to "infinite" and clicking run. Let it run for at least 8 hours to test stability. For OS X: CPU Test (run one instance for each CPU core) http://mac.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/CPUTest.shtml Now, if your temperatures are too high, then you want to lower the Vcore 2 notches at a time in the BIOS. You can use the + and - keys to raise/lower voltages. After each time you lower it then stress test and watch the temperatures. You want to pass the stress tests and be within the target temperature. If the tests fail when you lower the voltage then you should lower your FSB by 10 and try again at the same voltage. Lowering the FSB also lowers the temperature. I only provided information for the Q9550 because I figure most people are not going to be able to overclock properly on their own. However, I suppose, so long as they look up the temp/voltages before they start they should be OK since all the other settings will remain as is. Only FSB/Vcore need to be changed for this build when using any Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad. *note* If you forget to do all of the BIOS settings exactly right then you will have problems overclocking. For example, enabling load-line calibration is vital, if you are following my Vcore suggestions. | ||
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
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jacktheripper
Australia21 Posts
OR do you think i should be fine following your guide with an e8400 and stock heatsink? thanks a lot | ||
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maltice
United States28 Posts
One question. Once I am all booted up and I have run the Universal OSx86 Installer and the OSx86 Tools I rebooted and then installed all the updates. When I rebooted after that I got a gray screen after the apple logo which was indecipherable. I could tell it was booted up because when i moved the mouse something whacky was happening but there was no possibility of seeing what i was doing. I tried to figure out how to boot osx into safe mode but everytime I tried the pc just reboots... Right now I have it all working with the retail disc only but hav not done the updates again. ANy suggestions? -maltice | ||
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maltice
United States28 Posts
On July 06 2009 15:25 jacktheripper wrote: actually, do you mind telling me exactly what parts of your guides not to do if im not overclocking? sorry, im new to this and keen on learning, thats all OR do you think i should be fine following your guide with an e8400 and stock heatsink? thanks a lot Hey Jack, I just did this guide without he overclocking part. Basically you skip all the bios stuff he talks about in the guide except you have to change Sata to AHCI mode instead of IDE mode. Other than that you don't have to switch anything else. Although I did make sure USB mouse was enabled, and I set the correct timing, speed ands voltage of my memory (but I don't think you actually have to). Other than that, hook it all up and boot up with the Boot 123 disc and have a retail copy of OSX handy. Mine was pretty much painless (except updating the OS once I was all installed). Still trying to figure that part out. -maltice | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
me and a friend did this once,its a lot of fun and works great. I wish we had this guide when we did it thou. | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
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jacktheripper
Australia21 Posts
thanks so much, you guys have made it so much easier for me | ||
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
On July 07 2009 04:14 maltice wrote: Hey again. So far so good. I have sucessfully insalled osX on this setup (I didn't overclock, just adjusted AHCI and my memory voltage and such). One question. Once I am all booted up and I have run the Universal OSx86 Installer and the OSx86 Tools I rebooted and then installed all the updates. When I rebooted after that I got a gray screen after the apple logo which was indecipherable. I could tell it was booted up because when i moved the mouse something whacky was happening but there was no possibility of seeing what i was doing. I tried to figure out how to boot osx into safe mode but everytime I tried the pc just reboots... Right now I have it all working with the retail disc only but hav not done the updates again. ANy suggestions? -maltice Still having problems? If so, you can use the BOOT-132 CD as a safe mode CD. Just boot off it, then press enter the first time, then type 80 as the boot device (first HDD), press enter, then type -x -f and press enter. boot will take a long time, but it will eventually work. Run the OSx86 tools again and go to "about this mac" and check the video card. Does it properly display as a 4800 series? does it show the correct amount of RAM? If not, try re-installing the video drivers. You are using the 4870, right? I did not have any problems building several more of these after 10.5.7, so I am not sure what else you need to do. You can try downloading the 10.5.7 combo updater from apple.com instead of using the auto-update feature. If you already installed the video card driver (before 10.5.7) you will get that kernel panic screen (apple logo with gibberish), but a safemode boot and re-install of the video driver should solve that. On July 07 2009 06:27 jacktheripper wrote: oh okay thanks, but i think i'll give a little overclocking a go. are you able to tell me where in your guide i replace the quad you used with my e8400 values? thanks so much, you guys have made it so much easier for me You can actually follow the guide exactly. Just make sure to do some tests, as I posted earlier, after you finish the installation. Your CPU is a very good overclocker and can use the same numbers, assuming the rest of the parts are the same, like motherboard and 1066MHz RAM. | ||
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jacktheripper
Australia21 Posts
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
On July 09 2009 06:56 jacktheripper wrote: ok thanks, do you think it's necessary to buy a heatsink, or will the stock be fine for my cpu? thanks You need to buy the one that I specified, or one of equal cooling power, even for the E8400. Basically you end up paying $40 more for a CPU, but get 35-40% more processing power. The equivalent, without overclocking, costs $700 more. | ||
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expostfacto
United States365 Posts
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Clasic
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
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