|
Merkaba @ insanelymac.com wrote:
i have Windows 7 RC and OSX 10.5.7 dual booting on my EliteBook 8530w laptop with no issues. This is what i had to do to get it all working properly...
-Install Windows 7 RC first
-Within Windows 7, create a partition FAT32 or NFTS for your OSx86 install
-Download EasyBCD and install it (don't do anything with it yet)
-Now install OSX, and use that partition you created from windows. Obviously format it using the disk utilities and make sure it's Journaled
-Once OSX is done installing your Windows 7 will not work, boot off the Windows 7 DVD and click on the option at the bottom to repair windows
-Use the Console Option (last choice)
-type the following:
diskpart
list disk
select disk 0
list partition
select partition 0 (this should be the 100 or 200 MB partition that Windows 7 creates)
active
exit
exit
-Now your back at the main repair menu, select the repair automatically option (it's the top choice)
-It will now properly repair your windows 7 install and will allow you to boot into windows, but your OSX install will be broken
-Now right click on My Computer -> Manager -> Disk Management
-Assign a letter to your 100 or 200MB partition
-When that is done it should show up in My Computer and not be hidden
-Now open EasyBCD and make sure to run it as administrator
-Go to Add/Remove Entires -> Add an Entry -> Mac -> Type: Generic X86 PC -> Name: OSx86 (or whatever name you want)
- MAKE SURE YOU SAVE at the top!
Thats it, reboot and you should be all set!
Just follow his steps. It looks like he uses a different boot loader (easy BCD/windows loader), but that is acceptable. Chameleon 2 takes a bit of work to get playing nice with RC7 at this point. If you want to use Cham then just read the entire thread that I linked a few posts up. It has quite a few ways to install OS X /RC7 using MBR, GPT, same HDD, different HDDs, and using Cham.
|
I am dual booting with RC7 and had no problems...
I followed the guide and installed chameleon, etc...
When booting though I have to choose the 'System Reserved' drive to actually boot into Windows 7... Which is a bit odd but it seemed to work fine.
Jacktheripper:
I am running everything fine, dual boot with windows 7... everything working flawlessly...
I have not however updated OSX yet... I was editing on Final Cut all weekend (man its so much better than Avid or Premiere) and didn't want to risk having to reinstall... I will try updating this week and see what happens. I'll let you know if I solve it (I figure Maleorder's suggestion of booting up with the 123 disc and then reinstalling the video drivers will work I just haven't tried yet).
Manit0u:
Final Cut Pro and the ability to render with multiple processors over my network (using the macbook pro as a secondary processor) is the reason I built it with OSX
****
Once I have the update solved, I'll give you guys an update in case you run into the same problem I did... Also, big CPU fan on its way... then I'll overclock (can't wait).
Maleorder:
If I overclock after the fact, that shouldn't bother OSX right? in theory that is....?
|
Shoulda added this to the BETA key guide contest..
|
It will not bother OS X at all. Your system may auto-detect incorrectly, but I am guessing even those will be fine.
After you update to 10.5.7 you will need to re-install your drivers, but it is not any different than what you did the first time. The 4870 driver usually works a bit better under 10.5.7 as well. 10.5.6 uses an out of date OpenGL framework. I highly recommend switching to 10.5.7.
Using Q-Master is pretty awesome. Building one of these, then a network render-box with the same specs except video card is incredibly cost effective. You get 8-cores, which are faster than 12-cores from Apple, at around 30% of the price.
Good to know Cham 2 and RC7 work fine. Don't know why people are bitching over on the insanelymac forums then. The reason you have to select the system reserved drive is because Windows 7 finally moved to GPT partitioning scheme (which Leopard already uses) that allows use of 2TB+ size single volumes.
MBR is old and should have been gotten rid of with Vista. Also, GPT creates a small boot partition at the front of each drive (EFI partition). Some of the drivers for OS X can be installed there, but most of the time is is semi-complicated.
On July 14 2009 03:35 Lovin wrote:
Shoulda added this to the BETA key guide contest..
I did xD
I have a feeling it was a bit too highly specialized to have the kind of appeal the judges were looking for. Anyway, I am glad I wrote it. It is nice to save TLers thousands and thousands of dollars ;p
Plus, should I ever need some graphic design done in the future, I figure I am building a base of processionals that might not begrudge me a few hours of free work ;p
|
Hey,
Okay, running 10.5.7, went into the BIOS, changed RAM values to 6-6-6-18, voltage to 2.1v, and it's already saying 1066MHz in the BIOS (dunno how to manually change it), but when im back in osx it still says 800MHz 
And for the video card:
ATI Radeon HD 4800:
Chipset Model: ATI Radeon HD 4800
Type: Display
Bus: PCIe
Slot: Slot-1
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 1024 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x9440
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-B1480A-236
EFI Driver Version: 01.00.236
Displays:
W2252:
Resolution: 1680 x 1050 @ 60 Hz
Depth: 32-Bit Color
Core Image: Hardware Accelerated
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Rotation: Supported
Display Connector:
Status: No Display Connected
|
Hey Jack,
You are good to go actually. OS X is frequently wrong about the RAM values, however, you can change it using OSx86 Tools if you feel inclined.
Your video card is fully supported and enabled and is detecting all of the RAM. If you were the one that was getting odd color on the monitor then you might try plugging in a different LCD just to test. From here, it looks like then problem is not from OS X or the desktop.
Grats on the update and build! ;p
edit: I have an old LCD that works fine with PCs, but for some reason does not operate correctly with OS X. All of the new LCDs (made in the last 2 years) that I have tried work just fine.
|
oh ok, well here's a screenshot of the desktop:
http://www.filesavr.com/picture1_97
if you look at all the text, i dont know how to say it but its kind of pixellated or something, and i dont know how to fix it.
i just replugged in the dvi cable, no change.
|
hm. screen shot looks fine? anyone else want to view it and comment?
you might try posting on insanelymac.com and/or borrowing another LCD for a few minutes.
|
hmm, where you all downloading windows 7 from, does it include the xp mode thingy?
edit: sorry, stupid question, found it
and with my monitor, it's like the text isnt getting smoothed, even though smoothing is on
maltice: what do you mean by system reserved drive? i havent got windows7 just yet, but knowing how to choose the drive should help 
|
I got windows 7 by signing up for the beta at microsoft's site. They give you a serial number and windows 7 will work until they decide to release and sell the release version. Its fun to mess around with but don't get too use to it since it will stop working soon enough.
Basically though, just go to windows.com and i'm sure the link is there somewhere. Or try bittorrent or something.. I'm sure someone has a torrent up to d/l it.
Basically once you get it installed and you follow maleorder's guide... you boot up with chameleon for dual boot and you will see your macosx drive and two drives representing windows 7. One of them is labelled 'system reserved' (for the reasons maleorder pointed out above) and the other contains your system files. To boot, you have to choose the one named 'system reserved'. If you choose the wrong one, it just says you can't boot from that drive.
Doesn't seem like you can really mess it up...
Also... Got 10.5.7 working... had to boot in safe mode with the 123 disc and reinstall the video drivers and all was well afterwards, so thanks again for the help on that
|
okay, so i think im screwed. i installed vista on my other hdd, discovered it's actually crap, then removed it using Disk Utility under OSX, by clicking Erase.
This was probably not the smartest idea, and now the Windows XP install cd i have tells loads files, then says it encounters an error.
any ideas??
|
its partitioned in GPT (probably NTFS format), which xp can't handle. boot into OS X, open disk utility, go to the partition tab, change it to 1 partition, then select the partition type below.
Change it to MBR partition, format as NTFS. Then pop in XP and install normally. Windows7 is much better than Vista and uses GPT partitions. Why even use Vista right now?
edit: general FYI is that XP and Vista installers both SUCK BALLS. You have no advanced partition/formatting tools available without opening command prompts and halting the install process. So, if you have a disk that is not in MBR for XP/Vista then you have to plug it into another computer that has a working windows/ OS X install in order to change the partition type from GPT unless you are fairly nerd-literate and can use cmd prompts and know what diskpart is. normal users are just screwed though.
I'm glad windows 7 is here because Vista is about 2 years behind Leopard in that respect.
|
Damn maleorderbride deserves a fucking medal! ;D
|
lmfao
You know how many tech sites never get posts of this quality? And this is a Starcraft forum? Holy Shit man. Much respect.
|
On July 16 2009 13:46 maleorderbride wrote:
its partitioned in GPT (probably NTFS format), which xp can't handle. boot into OS X, open disk utility, go to the partition tab, change it to 1 partition, then select the partition type below.
Change it to MBR partition, format as NTFS. Then pop in XP and install normally. Windows7 is much better than Vista and uses GPT partitions. Why even use Vista right now?
edit: general FYI is that XP and Vista installers both SUCK BALLS. You have no advanced partition/formatting tools available without opening command prompts and halting the install process. So, if you have a disk that is not in MBR for XP/Vista then you have to plug it into another computer that has a working windows/ OS X install in order to change the partition type from GPT unless you are fairly nerd-literate and can use cmd prompts and know what diskpart is. normal users are just screwed though.
I'm glad windows 7 is here because Vista is about 2 years behind Leopard in that respect.
ok, so i have installed xp with AHCI off, but now when i turn it back on it get the 0x0000007B error message again. what im saying is, how the hell do i get xp to work with AHCI mode??
OR
i might download windows7 tomorrow; will this install in AHCI straight away for me, or will it be a hassle. should i partition the hdd to GPT, and then what format should i use?
thanks
|
Vista and Windows 7 both play nice with AHCI; XP does not (unless you have a motherboard with an ICH xxR controller).
I am on vacation so I do not have my files with me. However, I think I found the file you want. Insanelymac is a convoluted warren of files. I really wish it was possible to organize that site a bit more.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ejxaynenyvh
Use OSx86 Tools to add the kext (click button, browse, add, allow it to restart). When restarting go into the BIOS and change AHCI to disabled. That should do it. If it does not, then you have to wait for me to get to home on the 20th to upload the file I normally use.
If you get kernel panic then just re-enable AHCI and see what happens. If you kernel panic then also, then boot into safemode using the boot-132 CD.
|
Yeah props again.... building this hack was the best choice I've ever made... Keep missing the UPS guy so i havent gotten my super cpu cooler to overclock the hell out of this thing.
Jack:
I definitely recommend trying out windows 7.... I run vista on my media center PC and its ridiculously obnoxious compared to Windows 7.
Believe it or not, Win 7 is actually nice looking and seems to work alright. Of course their goofy home network junk is convoluted but i guess thats not too much different than osx. The only thing microsoft had going for it was that it was easy to network stuff, not its a pain in the butt.
Maleorder:
When I updated to 10.5.7 i had to use safe mode as I mentioned and then I re-followed steps 1 and 2 in the driver installation section... Then did the video drivers again. After that I rebooted succesfully etc.
Question is this... Now, everynow and then when I boot up, osx doesn't detect my usb keyboard. I literally unplug and replug into the same usb port and its fine but for some reason it doesn't see it sometimes. Any ideas?
|
wtf.
my CPU was OC'd to 3.6ghz, so i ran the cpu:occt for 8 hours overnight and it was fine, but when i did the linpack test this morning for an hour, it said the cpu was too hot. i went back into BIOS and clocked it down to 2.83, and the linpack test said it was still too hot! the test doesnt even last for more than a few minutes before it shuts off and tells me its too hot.
while the test is running, the cores can spike as high as 82 degrees at 2.83ghz, which just doesnt make any sense. the heatsink is working fine and the tower isnt in an enclosed area.
the occt test is fine, though. its 64C max and 2.83, so i dont know which test to follow
is it because i ran the test overnight for 8 hours and didnt shut it down for a while to cool off before the other tests? i cant think of any other reason
any ideas?
|
Jack:
I definitely recommend trying out windows 7.... I run vista on my media center PC and its ridiculously obnoxious compared to Windows 7.
Okay, so I have installed Windows 7 and all the drivers from my motherboard, video card and monitor, and now when i boot into OSX my ethernet is not working i.e. i can connect to the net in windows but not osx.
any ideas?
|
When you unhook the windows drive and only boot to OSX do you get internet then?
I havent had any troubles in this regard... Seemed to me that installing windows 7 on a separate drive doesn't affect OSX at all.. OSX doesn;t even know its there (as opposed to boot camp).
Someone let me know if I am wrong.
You hooked up to a router? Did you reserve the mac address in your router? I had some network troubles with mine since I had switched out most of parts when I built it and it took me a while to realize I had to reserve the new mac address (not macintosh obviously, just the MAC media ccess control address), otherwise on my d-link router it expired my address after a while because of the way I set it up.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
