Telephone communication between Tehran and the rest of Iran has been completely disconnected. This corresponds with the beginnings of the arrests of the opposition. It is suspected that this is being orchestrated by the son of Mojtaba Khamenei son of The Supreme Leader, Ali.

Pyknet: Mousavi has been place under house arrest. He was arrested on his way to Khamenei's house. All communication has been shut off. Khamenei has issued a statement claiming that HE that he is leading this coup to SAVE the Islamic Government (Nezam)

broz0rs

United States2294 Posts

June 13 2009 19:05 GMT

#27

I just hope not much blood will be spilled.

Xeris

Iran17695 Posts

June 13 2009 19:22 GMT

#28

what the fuck........ Moussavi supporters need to stop. they're going to fuck up the country if they can't peacefully accept the election results.

Xeris

Iran17695 Posts

June 13 2009 19:23 GMT

#29

On June 14 2009 03:12 iamtt1 wrote:
like 90% of my relatives still live in iran

it all depends on your perspective payam

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

June 13 2009 19:27 GMT

#30

This just makes me think of what would happen if this happened in the us? Because in the recent months we have had at least two different threads about elections and riots that correspond to each other.

{CC}StealthBlue

United States41117 Posts

June 13 2009 19:29 GMT

#31

On June 14 2009 04:22 Xeris wrote:
what the fuck........ Moussavi supporters need to stop. they're going to fuck up the country if they can't peacefully accept the election results.

I'd be pretty pissed too if the party in power started to arrest the opposing party members and have armed forces threatening supporters etc.

{CC}StealthBlue

United States41117 Posts

June 13 2009 19:33 GMT

#32

More tidbits:

Another Washington-based Iran watcher said at about 11pm EST that Iranian-state-officials are claiming vote counts in the Iranian city of Isfahan show Ahmadinejad winning 3-1. Which would seem a bit absurd - or else a total contrary result from what pre-election reporting indicated.

At about 7:30am Tehran time, the U.S.-based Iranian academic writes, "I have been exchanging emails, phone calls, and been in touch with young, old, men, women, ...and been in touch with people from inside
each campaign (AN and Mousavi). These numbers have surprised even the
supporters of AN. What is more, the journalists are saying in the
Interior Ministry there has been no explanations, no interviews, just
reading the numbers to journalists. It is mind-boggling at this point.
It is not over by any means; unless reformers want to lay down and
play dead."

"The loser either way is Khamenie (if there is a widespread belief that this was rigged). However, I cannot believe given the scope of participation that it would be such a blow out (even as the percentage of booths has nothing to do with the percentage of the vote give because the size of these booths are not the same). However, no one I know can believe these numbers. Something does not add up."

One man who worked in the Ministry of Interior, which carried out the vote count, said the government had been preparing its fraud for weeks, purging anyone of doubtful loyalty and importing pliable staff members from around the country.

"They didn't rig the vote," claimed this man, who showed his ministry identification card but pleaded not to be named. "They didn't even look at the vote. They just wrote the name and put the number in front of it."

Voters were obliged to choose a candidate and fill in a code. Though Mr. Moussavi was Candidate No. 4, the code No. 44 signified Mr. Ahmadinejad.

One would think all it would take is someone to write an additional 4 and even a recount wouldn't have helped or solved anything.

TT1

Canada10045 Posts

June 13 2009 19:54 GMT

#33

On June 14 2009 04:22 Xeris wrote:
what the fuck........ Moussavi supporters need to stop. they're going to fuck up the country if they can't peacefully accept the election results.

? what else can they do, the only way they can get change is by rioting and pressuring the goverment.. they need to overthrow the regime(violence is obviously part of the equation).. but it has be organised and needs alot of support which it doesnt have, the majority of the population are just too scared to go against the regime (the issue goes beyond the current government)

rushz0rz

Canada5300 Posts

June 13 2009 20:10 GMT

#34

Was there even a thread for Moldova? They had a just cause, imo.

Railz

United States1449 Posts

June 13 2009 20:16 GMT

#35

On June 14 2009 04:22 Xeris wrote:
what the fuck........ Moussavi supporters need to stop. they're going to fuck up the country if they can't peacefully accept the election results.

America should have just peacefully accepted King George's rule as well. u_u

Sometimes things are so blatantly wrong that not standing up for it just begets more moral injustices. Its the sad necessary evil.

Husky

United States3362 Posts

June 13 2009 20:24 GMT

#36

On June 14 2009 04:22 Xeris wrote:
what the fuck........ Moussavi supporters need to stop. they're going to fuck up the country if they can't peacefully accept the election results.

This hurts my head to such an extreme degree. There are reports that the main opposition even lost voting in his HOME TOWN supposedly. You dont think thats even a LITTLE suspicious?

Please... there is something evil going on here :\

Etherone

United States1898 Posts

June 13 2009 20:32 GMT

#37

some of you forgot Martin Luther King, and that peaceful protest can go a long way, although a much harder road to walk, it is a more righteous one, and one with less blood.

MamiyaOtaru

United States1687 Posts

June 13 2009 21:43 GMT

#38

On June 14 2009 02:04 Jibba wrote:
Ahmadinejad really is like Iran's Bush, except Iran's rural population is a much greater % than America's.

The more I look at it the more this seems true. Who are we in the west most likely to hear from? students, the internet savvy, the English speakers, etc.

Just like 2004 in the US: if you were on the internet all you heard about was how Bush was crap: you'd have expected John Kerry was going to win. It didn't happen, because of the masses of people who weren't on the net or protesting at colleges going out and voting for Bush due to plays to religion or fear or whatever. You may not like it, but that can happen with democracy.

Ahmadinejad is a man of the people, with his little apartment and everything. I think he has more appeal than people may realize with the average Iranian. The scope of his victory is a little suspicious, but I wouldn't be surprised if he really did win. That's democracy for you. The winner is the one with the most supporters, not the one whose supporters are more vocal, or university educated, or better connected with the West or whatever the case may be.

If we're going to advocate democracy we have to be cool with the idea that people are going to vote for their preferred candidate, not ours. Now I can't say for sure that candidate is Ahmadinejad, I don't know all the details. But I could certainly believe it is him.

{CC}StealthBlue

United States41117 Posts

June 13 2009 21:45 GMT

#39

Holy crap some are believing that Ahmadinejad is now underway of performing a Coup.

We have information that Ahmadinejad is thinking about changing the Constitution to allow the president to serve more than two terms, to make his presidency more or less permanent.

U.S. analysts find it "not credible" that challenger Mir Hossein Mousavi would have lost the balloting in his hometown or that a third candidate, Mehdi Karoubi, would have received less than 1 percent of the total vote, a senior U.S. officials told FOX News.

A coup d'etat? They've already made one! They've created a dictatorship, in fact. Do you know that last night the security forces occupied the offices of many newspapers, to make sure that their reporting on the election was favorable? They changed many headlines. They fixed the election.

The Guards are taking over everything, including many economic institutions. The ministry of the interior is increasing its control in all the provinces.

{CC}StealthBlue

United States41117 Posts

June 13 2009 21:48 GMT

#40

2:54 PM ET -- Reuters reporter injured. "A Reuters reporter said she and others were beaten by police with batons as police chased and arrested demonstrators staging a sit-in at Tehran's Vanak Square, one of the capital's busiest intersections. At least three people were injured in the clash, which broke out after the Interior Ministry announced the hardline incumbent's resounding victory in Friday's vote."

2:48 PM ET -- Report: Between 50-100 dead. Tehran Bureau, an independent Iran news site being widely cited by U.S. papers, reports: "Panic on the streets of Tehran. Outside mass protests. Between 50-100 dead. Police on motorcycles beating people as drive by; attacking women."

The Islamic Combatant Clergy Association (ICCA), which is close to former president Mohammad Khatami and supported Mir-Hossiein Moussavi in Friday's election, said on its website that the election should be nullified and held again in a calmer, more logical and more just atmosphere.

After an emergency session in Tehran, the ICCA regretted that the counting process was "widely engineered (manipulated)" and said there was enough evidence to prove the manipulation and to nullify the election.

"We will not leave Moussavi alone," the ICCA said in its statement.