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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 28 2009 22:20 GMT
#741
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2009/1228/After-Sunday-clashes-in-Iran-Green-Movement-supporters-take-stock

No one knows where this is going, but I think a lot of us have a sneaking suspicion. :o
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 03:26:49
December 29 2009 03:24 GMT
#742

Gov plans pro-gov protests on Wednesday, probably will use protests 2 say "ppl want us 2 arrest Musavi+Karubi+Khatami"








Also the body of the nephew of of Mousavi has apparently gone missing?
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Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
December 29 2009 07:12 GMT
#743
Iran will do perfectly fine if Israel and USA leave it alone. I love mass media propaganda assault on Iran and Ahmadinejad, bbc and other crap. Not your business.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 29 2009 07:30 GMT
#744
Because the middle east is a big happy family when no on interferes /sarcasm
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 01 2010 00:12 GMT
#745



Behind the drama unfolding in the streets of Iran, the regime is quietly clamping down on some of the nation's best students by derailing their academic and professional careers.

On Wednesday, progovernment militia attacked and beat students at a school in northeastern Iran. Since last Sunday's massive protests nationwide, dozens of university students have been arrested as part of an aggressive policy against what are known as Iran's "star students."

In most places, being a star means ranking top of the class, but in Iran it means your name appears on a list of students considered a threat by the intelligence ministry. It also means a partial or complete ban from education.

The term comes from the fact that some students have learned of their status by seeing stars printed next to their names on test results.

Mehrnoush Karimi, a 24-year-old law-school hopeful, found out in August that she was starred. She ranked 55 on this year's national entrance exam for law schools, out of more than 70,000 test-takers. That score should have guaranteed her a seat at the school of her choice. Instead, the government told her she wouldn't be attending law school due to her "star" status.

Ms. Karimi says she thinks she got starred because she volunteered in the presidential campaign of opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi last spring. She also participated in several antigovernment "Green Movement" protests that are convulsing Iran.

"They tell me, 'You are not allowed to study or work in this country any more.' Why? Because I voted for Mousavi and wore a green scarf?" says Ms.Karimi in a phone interview from the city of Isfahan, where she lives.

More than 1,000 graduate students have been blocked from higher education since the practice began in 2006, according to statements by Mostafa Moin, a former education minister, in official media in September.

Star treatment is reserved for graduate students, although undergrads also face suspension for political activity, according to student-rights activists. Several hundred undergrads have been suspended for as many as four semesters, according to student activists and human-rights groups in Iran. Under Iran's higher-education law, students are dismissed from school if they miss four terms.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126222013953111071.html?mod=WSJ_hps_LEADNewsCollection
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 22 2010 22:13 GMT
#746
BBC has aired footage of Government attacks on the Dorms where students were trapped, last June:




iran88

Video: BBC airs new video of June attacks on U. of Tehran dorms filmed by the Basij attackers! http://bit.ly/cDcAP4 #IranElection about 1 hours ago from web Retweeted by IranRiggedElect and 3 others
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zee
Profile Joined January 2010
201 Posts
February 22 2010 22:28 GMT
#747
You're all being fooled by the zionist media. Iran is a fair country.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
February 22 2010 22:33 GMT
#748
On December 29 2009 16:30 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Because the middle east is a big happy family when no on interferes /sarcasm


Your point is valid, but it's not like our Middle East policy has ever helped the situation. In fact we helped create it.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2011 00:45 GMT
#749
Has nothing to do with the elections and this is a very big bump in terms of time but there is apparently movements to start protests in Iran:

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Amid reports of a low turnout for the annual march commemorating the anniversary of Iran's Islamic revolution on Friday, there are calls among opposition leaders for nationwide marches against the government on Monday.

Protesters, including university students, truck drivers and gold merchants are said to be organising marches across the country under the umbrella of the country's Green Movement, apparently inspired by recents demonstrations in Egypt and Tunisia.

The movement, also known as the Green Wave, made international headlines after the disputed 2009 presidential elections which saw Mahmoud Ahmadinejad win a second term in office.

Monday's protests have been called at the behest of Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi, which the movement backed as opposition presidential candidates in the election two years ago.

The governments of both Tunisia and Egypt were successfully toppled via massive and prolonged protests and rallies.

Permission to hold rallies in Egypt was sought prior to the demonstrators' actions but no such permit has not been granted in Iran, and the country's Revolutionary Guard has already promised to forcefully confront any protesters.

Some of the posters advertising Monday's rally on Facebook refer to February 14 day as a "valentine to Iran's freedom". The main Facebook page calling for demonstrations has over 43,000 followers.


Source
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Shigy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States346 Posts
February 13 2011 01:12 GMT
#750
oh boy shit's getting real. latest thread on algiers and other mid-east countries protesting?
perser84
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany399 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 02:17:28
February 13 2011 02:16 GMT
#751
On December 29 2009 16:12 Magic84 wrote:
Iran will do perfectly fine if Israel and USA leave it alone. I love mass media propaganda assault on Iran and Ahmadinejad, bbc and other crap. Not your business.



i am a iranian and i do agree with him

everytime usa is involved in other peoples matters it get worse ...i mean really worse

and most of the stuff is media proganda

true there are many things that are not right in iran

that is no of their business

usa support other countries that are worse and more corupted then iran
and do nothing

because other wise they dont become what they need like oil gas or other advantages

iran is not the nicest country but trust me usa has allies

that are much worse or are alike iran and are tolerated with the way they do
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
February 13 2011 15:38 GMT
#752
Interesting that while Egyptian protest removed a government that US wanted to keep, while Iranian protest aims to remove a governement that US can't stand.
If I know correctly, much of Middle East is run by monarchs and dictators.
Things should be interesting in the next few months...
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2011 17:42 GMT
#753
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
February 13 2011 17:52 GMT
#754
Has there ever not been a problem in the middle east for the last 5000 years?
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
February 13 2011 18:07 GMT
#755
On February 14 2011 02:52 Fa1nT wrote:
Has there ever not been a problem in the middle east for the last 5000 years?

Or, like, you know, the rest of the world.

The reason the revolutions in the middle east are now is because before the tunisians, everyone was scared as hell to even think of opposing the government. Now that two corrupt governments have fallen, everyone sees that demonstrations are actually helping them get rid of fallous reigners. Either that or everyone in the middle east played Z and the leaders are playing terran.

Though I forsee a much bloodier battle in Iran than in Egypt or Tunisia. Ahmedinijad is quite a nut.
PlaKen
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada46 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 18:16:09
February 13 2011 18:12 GMT
#756
Iran's government is paranoid but can we really blame them? They have israeli/american spies trying to kill their scientists and destroy Iran's infrastructure from within. Unlike Egypt, people in Iran VOTED for the current president: Ahmadinejad. Whether the elections were 100% transparent or not is debatable but what we read in the news coming from sources such as CNN and BBC is the most biased shit I've ever seen. Also, the voices coming from iranians abroad are often very biased as well. These are second generation kids born to exiled iranian parents, parents who left due to having ties with the former Shah. Funny enough, Iran wasn't faring better when this puppet was in government. In fact, it was American interference which prevented a democratically elected prime minister Mosaddegh from staying in office.

Simply put, the WEST is the major blame in the instability currently reigning the middle east...Who put the taliban in power in Afghanistan? It was the USA who gave them the weapons and helped organize their resistance against the Russians. Who put Saddam in power? It was America that put him in power to help fight off Iran after its 1979 revolution. Who caused turmoil in Iran to the point where the people were fed up with a puppet-dictator ruling over them as a monarch and causing by the same token, an islamic revolution that has been a thorn in the backside of the West ever since? Who decided to give land near Jerusalem to Jews after WW2, land which was bought extremely cheaply or simply taken away from their owners and which has now resulted in a climate of never-ending turmoil between palestinians and jews?

These are all easy facts to forget but to me, its plainly clear that USA put the mid east in all this shit...Not the other way around. Interfering recklessly in other countries' politics rarely ends well.
Take what is theirs and make it yours.
kataa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom384 Posts
February 13 2011 18:19 GMT
#757
On February 13 2011 11:16 perser84 wrote:]


i am a iranian and i do agree with him

everytime usa is involved in other peoples matters it get worse ...i mean really worse

and most of the stuff is media proganda

true there are many things that are not right in iran

that is no of their business

usa support other countries that are worse and more corupted then iran
and do nothing

because other wise they dont become what they need like oil gas or other advantages

iran is not the nicest country but trust me usa has allies

that are much worse or are alike iran and are tolerated with the way they do


So I take it then you support the government crackdown on democratic protesters and believe that they are simply brainwashed/manipulated by the Zionist/Americans to otherwise ruin what is a free and open state?

Seriously, I wouldn't be here defending my country if it did that. For the same reason I don't defend cops that beat up black guys, or riot police who beat up non-violent protesters. I certainly wouldn't turn around and go "Damn, protesters I blame Communist Russia" like so many Americans have done throughout history.

The fact that USA has a dark political history DOES NOT defend the crimes of the Iranian regime. Anymore than the crimes of Soviet Russia defend US foreign policy during the Cold War. As the old adage goes 'Two wrongs do not make a right.'

As far as the 'none of your business' argument is concerned. Nations have a right to Sovereignty, but fears of losing that Sovereignty are used as tools to control it's population clearly something has gone very wrong.
SerpentFlame
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 18:40:02
February 13 2011 18:34 GMT
#758
On February 14 2011 03:12 PlaKen wrote:
Iran's government is paranoid but can we really blame them? They have israeli/american spies trying to kill their scientists and destroy Iran's infrastructure from within. Unlike Egypt, people in Iran VOTED for the current president: Ahmadinejad. Whether the elections were 100% transparent or not is debatable but what we read in the news coming from sources such as CNN and BBC is the most biased shit I've ever seen. Also, the voices coming from iranians abroad are often very biased as well. These are second generation kids born to exiled iranian parents, parents who left due to having ties with the former Shah. Funny enough, Iran wasn't faring better when this puppet was in government. In fact, it was American interference which prevented a democratically elected prime minister Mosaddegh from staying in office.

Simply put, the WEST is the major blame in the instability currently reigning the middle east...Who put the taliban in power in Afghanistan? It was the USA who gave them the weapons and helped organize their resistance against the Russians. Who put Saddam in power? It was America that put him in power to help fight off Iran after its 1979 revolution. Who caused turmoil in Iran to the point where the people were fed up with a puppet-dictator ruling over them as a monarch and causing by the same token, an islamic revolution that has been a thorn in the backside of the West ever since? Who decided to give land near Jerusalem to Jews after WW2, land which was bought extremely cheaply or simply taken away from their owners and which has now resulted in a climate of never-ending turmoil between palestinians and jews?

These are all easy facts to forget but to me, its plainly clear that USA put the mid east in all this shit...Not the other way around. Interfering recklessly in other countries' politics rarely ends well.

1) How do you hand count all the votes in the country in 3 hours?

2) It's convenient how Mousavi lost his home town where people hate Ahmadinejad

3) Accusations of rigging aren't a spawn ofthe Western world.

Only 105 out of the 290 members of Parliament came to the victory celebration for Ahmadinejad. Allegations of rigging stem from inside Iran even among prominent Islamic clerics among many other prominent figures in Iran . Why would people inside Iran say the elections were rigged when you run the risk of getting arrested, beaten, shot, or having your nephew killed? None of this happened when Ahmadinejad won his first election.

4) US-first style politics are sure to blame for the turmoil, and Israel has admitted to sabotage of Iran's nuclear program. But however good or bad the US is doesn't mean Iran isn't doing it wrong in the elections.

Iran's government is paranoid maybe, but the people aren't so closed-minded.
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Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
February 13 2011 18:35 GMT
#759
On February 14 2011 03:12 PlaKen wrote:
Unlike Egypt, people in Iran VOTED for the current president: Ahmadinejad. Whether the elections were 100% transparent or not is debatable but what we read in the news coming from sources such as CNN and BBC is the most biased shit I've ever seen.

As much as I dislike posting in a super-bumped thread, I have to mention that Iranians most definitely did NOT vote for Ahmedinijad. All signs were suggesting the opposition would win... and then Ahmedinijad wins in a landslide? Give me a break, he stole the election and everyone knows it. Iranians as a people are getting really fucked because of their batshit loony government. Replace them and there could be much more stability in the middle east.

I will also mention, however, but the US of A doesn't exactly want stability in the middle east. Oil flow is fine, but arms manufacturing is a huge business and it benefits select group of the ultra-influential ultra-wealthy in the States when there is conflict. The USA loves Israel exactly because it fucks shit up in the region. It lets them say they are trying hard to have peace but nobody is giving it to them.
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PlaKen
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada46 Posts
February 13 2011 19:01 GMT
#760
On February 14 2011 03:34 SerpentFlame wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 03:12 PlaKen wrote:

1) How do you hand count all the votes in the country in 3 hours?

2) It's convenient how Mousavi lost his home town where people hate Ahmadinejad

3) Accusations of rigging aren't a spawn ofthe Western world.

Only 105 out of the 290 members of Parliament came to the victory celebration for Ahmadinejad. Allegations of rigging stem from inside Iran even among prominent Islamic clerics among many other prominent figures in Iran . Why would people inside Iran say the elections were rigged when you run the risk of getting arrested, beaten, shot, or having your nephew killed? None of this happened when Ahmadinejad won his first election.

4) US-first style politics are sure to blame for the turmoil, and Israel has admitted to sabotage of Iran's nuclear program. But however good or bad the US is doesn't mean Iran isn't doing it wrong in the elections.

Iran's government is paranoid maybe, but the people aren't so closed-minded.


You're getting all your stats from so-called expert analysts OUTSIDE a country where information like this isn't readily available. Go on Wikipedia and read up...According to BBC; according to british based researcher...Seriously, whoever quotes BBC when arguing about iranian affaires has no idea how biased they are...Their whole Iranian branch is run by ex-shah regime exiles. Now, that being said, who do you think these people get their statistics off of? Mousavi and his supporters of course!!!...What you have to remember is that even if the margins weren't this wide, Mousavi would have lost the elections either way...The rallies you see in the news were all in major cities (80% of them in Tehran) but Iran's rural population, which HEAVILY favors Ahamdinejad is much more numerous than the Urban population. Not to mention that people from Mousavi's region are very religious and traditional so I wasn't TOO surprised even though he lost in his home town. Lastly, you are a little naive to believe that if Ahmadinejad's government would want to rig the elections, he'd do so in such a blatantly obvious manner...They may be crazy but they aren't retards either.

Oh and one last fact that you might not know, Mousavi is no less a hardliner than Ahmadinejad and his government, so it's not as though voting for Mousavi would have started a renaissance in Iranian politics. Things would have pretty much stayed the same.
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