On June 13 2009 05:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Hmmm, the women in those pictures appeal to me more than the election itself.
Hmmm, the women in those pictures appeal to me more than the election itself.
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
On June 13 2009 05:12 ShoCkeyy wrote: Hmmm, the women in those pictures appeal to me more than the election itself. | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
More vids, it's becoming quite clear what is happening. Media such as Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and even cell phones inside Tehran are being blocked. With the Clerics backing Moussavi, it seems, I wonder what the outcome will be or will Iran simply sit back and brood and complain in the dark. There is a good article by Cenk Uygur over at the Huffington Post. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/iranian-elections-were-ob_b_215230.html EDIT: Graph of the vote turn in for Ahmadinejad. http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/the-results-as-they-came-in.html | ||
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
On June 14 2009 07:04 foeffa wrote: Tx for the updates, I didn't know this was spinning out of control so rapidly. =o Yeah, it's unfolding quite quickly actually. Thanks for the updates. I do know that it'll be over within a day, though. | ||
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
U.S. analysts find it "not credible" that challenger Mir Hossein Mousavi would have lost the balloting in his hometown or that a third candidate, Mehdi Karoubi, would have received less than 1 percent of the total vote, a senior U.S. officials told FOX News. This is where I stop reading any post you make in this thread from now on. | ||
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On June 14 2009 07:23 BuGzlToOnl wrote: Show nested quote + U.S. analysts find it "not credible" that challenger Mir Hossein Mousavi would have lost the balloting in his hometown or that a third candidate, Mehdi Karoubi, would have received less than 1 percent of the total vote, a senior U.S. officials told FOX News. This is where I stop reading any post you make in this thread from now on. k.... Being as the is just one quote from a variety of sources. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has accused the foreign media of coverage that harms the Iranian people after authorities claimed he was re-elected in a bitterly disputed vote. He called on the public to respect the vote on Friday, after his main pro-reform challenger rejected the results and accused authorities of election fraud. "This is a great victory at a time when the ... propaganda facilities outside Iran and sometimes inside Iran were totally mobilized against our people," Ahmadinejad said, according to an English translation of his victory speech carried on state television. "The heaviest pressure and psychological warfare was organized against the people of Iran. A large number of foreign media ... organized a full-fledged fight against our people." Also: Security officials and riot police engaged in violent clashes with demonstrators in Tehran today in what one reporter called an "unprecedented scene" in Iran in recent years. What started off as a small rally outside a pro-reformist newspaper swelled into a massive crowd of people chanting, "Death to the dictator, death to Ahmadinejad!" Then, what started with a small amount of police pushing the crowd back turned into huge riot police in armored gear and motor bikes beating all the young students here with batons, knocking them back. The students responded by throwing stones, which the police then threw back. Now the police are coming off all the heart streets and main streets to try and disperse the crowd. But this is an unprecedented scene in Iran today. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
(BBC) A crowd of about 3,000 attacked the police, some of whom were on motorbikes, which they set on fire. The sky was thick with black smoke. Police attacked the crowd with sticks and maybe teargas. I didn't expect to see people turning on the secret police. We were filming when we were surrounded by angry secret policemen. The crowd turned on them and chased them off. I suspect we are not looking at a revolution but there is serious anger. It all depends on how the government responds - if they use violence, that could inflame the situation. John Simpson - BBC ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Faronel
United States658 Posts
On June 14 2009 07:01 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w6rWdrPTbE More vids, it's becoming quite clear what is happening. Media such as Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and even cell phones inside Tehran are being blocked. With the Clerics backing Moussavi, it seems, I wonder what the outcome will be or will Iran simply sit back and brood and complain in the dark. There is a good article by Cenk Uygur over at the Huffington Post. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/iranian-elections-were-ob_b_215230.html EDIT: Graph of the vote turn in for Ahmadinejad. http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/the-results-as-they-came-in.html wtf... that graph is complete bullshit. R-squared as 0.998, no way is that possible in such an election. Talk about lazy frauding... I mean why take the time to publish the data which is so obviously false, why not actually make the voter turnout at least somewhat plausible. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On June 14 2009 08:32 Faronel wrote: Show nested quote + On June 14 2009 07:01 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w6rWdrPTbE More vids, it's becoming quite clear what is happening. Media such as Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and even cell phones inside Tehran are being blocked. With the Clerics backing Moussavi, it seems, I wonder what the outcome will be or will Iran simply sit back and brood and complain in the dark. There is a good article by Cenk Uygur over at the Huffington Post. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/iranian-elections-were-ob_b_215230.html EDIT: Graph of the vote turn in for Ahmadinejad. http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/the-results-as-they-came-in.html wtf... that graph is complete bullshit. R-squared as 0.998, no way is that possible in such an election. Talk about lazy frauding... I mean why take the time to publish the data which is so obviously false, why not actually make the voter turnout at least somewhat plausible. The fact that reports of millions of votes coming in very soon after the polls closes raised some suspicions. For example, when one polling station closed it would said that the ballots were counted as soon as half an hour after the station was closed. Where as thousands of votes had been cast. The result was that nearly 85% of said votes were for the President. | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
On June 14 2009 03:06 iamtt1 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 14 2009 02:04 Jibba wrote: Ahmadinejad really is like Iran's Bush, except Iran's rural population is a much greater % than America's. yup.. they basicly paid like 50$ to all the poor/uneducated villagers to go vote for ahmadinejad Retarded post is retarded. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On June 14 2009 08:37 Rev0lution wrote: Show nested quote + On June 14 2009 03:06 iamtt1 wrote: On June 14 2009 02:04 Jibba wrote: Ahmadinejad really is like Iran's Bush, except Iran's rural population is a much greater % than America's. yup.. they basicly paid like 50$ to all the poor/uneducated villagers to go vote for ahmadinejad Retarded post is retarded. Instead of helping the discussion along and explaining why this is you just assume the post is retarded. Thanks for all your help. The guy says he has a ton of relatives in iran and frankly paying people to vote for you isn't an alien concept. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
6:14 update: Through Facebook we have received news that Mir Hossein Mousavi, Mehdi Karroubi, and Gholamhossein Karbaschi are under house arrest. Martial Law in Tabriz; many arrests. http://ow.ly/dWtN http://tehranbureau.com/2009/06/13/2360/ Even before the earliest of the election results, word had spread that Mir Hossein Mousavi’s private security team had doubled in size. Within an hour of the end of polling, the presidential challenger had announced a “decisive victory” but soon after the first results he was alleging massive electoral fraud. Earlier in the evening a “pressure group” had raided one of Mir Hossein Mousavi’s campaign offices in the wealthy northern Tehran suburb of Qeytarieh. Information was spreading by word of mouth and through the internet. Iran’s mobile phone text message system had been offline since the beginning of polling on Friday. | ||
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/13/landslide-or-fraud-the-debate-online-over-irans-election-results/?hp As far as that graph goes, Nate Silver @ 538 is arguing that it's not very significant in determining voter fraud, and that it's no smoking gun: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/06/statistical-evidence-does-not-prove.html | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
I mean even the ICCA has to carry some weight with the religious conservatives in the country, yet we hear nothing. Where is the outcry from other Arab states. | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
On June 14 2009 09:06 benjammin wrote: Here's a good composite of differing viewpoints on the web so far: http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/13/landslide-or-fraud-the-debate-online-over-irans-election-results/?hp As far as that graph goes, Nate Silver @ 538 is arguing that it's not very significant in determining voter fraud, and that it's no smoking gun: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/06/statistical-evidence-does-not-prove.html That second link really debunks how the graph is portrayed by some as proof of fraud. | ||
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