Iranian protests - Page 17

On June 17 2009 06:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Wow did not know that it was the U.S. State Department that asked for the delay in Twitter maintenance.

Over 120 professors have resigned due to raids on dormitories as well.

Protests in Germany have turned into Riots.

On June 17 2009 06:15 Jibba wrote:
I find it amusing that people who never paid any attention to Iran before (and probably still can't find Tehran on a map) are name dropping like crazy, and acting as if they understand the inner workings of Iranian domestic politics more than a poli sci grad student specializing on Iran. LR's post is especially ridiculous. Oh, you've got a friend and/or relatives of Iranian descent? Yeah, that doesn't mean shit.

And Glaucus is a pretty obvious troll. That should've been clear to everyone by post #4.

On June 17 2009 07:11 Wala.Revolution wrote:


What? Why is there a riot in Germany? Is it in front of the Iranian Embassy?

On June 17 2009 06:15 Jibba wrote:
I find it amusing that people who never paid any attention to Iran before (and probably still can't find Tehran on a map) are name dropping like crazy, and acting as if they understand the inner workings of Iranian domestic politics more than a poli sci grad student specializing on Iran. LR's post is especially ridiculous. Oh, you've got a friend and/or relatives of Iranian descent? Yeah, that doesn't mean shit.

And Glaucus is a pretty obvious troll. That should've been clear to everyone by post #4.

On June 17 2009 05:24 Xeris wrote:

I'm not saying for sure that the election wasn't rigged. It's possible, I think there might have been some rigging (but not that would have significantly changed the results). What I AM saying is that I have more faith in Iran than most people and I'd like to believe that it was a fairly legitimate election. I was disappointed that Ahmadinejad won because I'm a big Moussavi fan, but more than the particular regime in power, I am a supporter of Iran.

On June 17 2009 07:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


Wikipedia says in Hamburg.

http://www.abendblatt.de/hamburg/polizeimeldungen/article1054772/Ausschreitungen-vor-iranischem-Generalkonsulat.html#reqRSS

Need Red Cross to look after wounded/killed Iranian. Some of them are taken away from hospitals. #iranelection

Basij militia are constantly vandilizing the city and state tv is constantly blaming it on Mousavi supporters!!

Help needed from world: A where 2.0 tool to attach pics, vids, news, & comments to locations on maps of Iran. #IranElection

Help needed from world: A low-bandwidth way to access yahoo msging via browser. #iranElection

On June 17 2009 07:30 FieryBalrog wrote:



Having faith and liking to believe are rarely legitimate grounds, eh.

On June 17 2009 07:13 Jayme wrote:


Actually "Nat'l" means National which generally means someone who uh... lives there.

I would take the word of someone who lives there pretty well.

On June 17 2009 07:30 Keniji wrote:


wow, riots... not really.

actually it was a demonstration of - at most - 200 people in front of the consulate general of iran. Only five persons (exil-iranians) tried to climb over the fence of the consulate.

At least that's what the news is about. You can't really call that a riot.

16 lawyers announced they R ready to advocate victims (arrested/wounded) of post election events. #iranelection

Supreme leader re-supported Ahmadi Nejad tonight saying that accepting a defeat is not easy, but everyone should accept the result.

Grand Ayatullahs(GA) Montazeri,Saanei&Bayat respond&supports Mousavi against supreme leader?! #iranelection

Basij shooting at people, British channel4 aired this: http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1184614595?bctid=26415347001

On June 17 2009 07:26 Last Romantic wrote:


While not an expert on the matter, I consider myself fairly well read in general; I can identify most national capitals tyvm and have at least basic understanding of most international politics [being a student of the 2nd-best political science program in the nation]. I am not some ignorant punk just mouthing off about anything and everything.

I only used that reference to explain how I can understand Farsi-written sources despite not knowing the language myself. Don't give me that shit.

a) Every opposition candidate lost in their home district by a margin roughly equal to the total supposed vote [2:1ish] You insist on incumbent victory precedent - but you ignore hometown victory precedent. This is an odd double standard. Karroubi's votecount went from 5 million four years ago to a few hundred thousand this year; he has done nothing to lose that much popularity.

b) pre-election polling does not favour Ahmedinejad as much as you so vehemently trumpet. There are multiple polls suggesting 55-60ish for Mousavi and 20-25ish for ANejad. The polls that do give massive support for ANejad are the ones conducted by state-controlled media overseen by the President/Supreme Leader. Western talking heads suggested that it would likely go to a second round runoff, as in previous elections.

d) Increased voter turnout in every election in human history suggests dissatisfaction with the current regime. The election results say that, of the extra ~11m voters, ~7.5m voted for the incumbent, assuming ANejad's original voters voted the same way. This is eminently illogical.