EPTThis is fucked up. Hopefully some sort of solution can be found, preferrably involving a recount/new election and not senselessly beating your own citizens.
Iranian protests - Page 15
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Hans-Titan
Denmark1711 Posts
This is fucked up. Hopefully some sort of solution can be found, preferrably involving a recount/new election and not senselessly beating your own citizens. | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
Moussavi would be a fairly noticeable improvement over Ahmadinejad but it wouldn't be some sort of earthshattering improvement. It's not like Moussavi is the knight in shining armor who is going to save Iran, he's just a pretty reasonable guy who is going to put a lot of emphasis on the economy and is more liberal. | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
According to the Cyrus News Agency, Tuesday morning 16 senior members of Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps were arrested. "These commanders have been in contact with members of the Iranian army to join the people's movement," CNA reports. "Three of the commanders are veterans of Iran-Iraq war. They have been moved to an undisclosed location in East Tehran." | ||
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MarklarMarklar
Fiji1823 Posts
seems a possible bloodbath could happen | ||
Last Romantic
United States20665 Posts
Reports of the strike say most Tehran offices/businesses are deserted. | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
This is NSFW but I think this thread has moved past that sort of thing. If not, I'll change it and I apologize. | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
State Department to Twitter: Keep Iranian tweets coming senior officials say the State Department asked Twitter to refrain for going down for periodic scheduled maintenance at this critical time to ensure the site continues to operate. Bureau’s and offices across the State Department, they say, are paying very close attention to Twitter and other sites to get information on the situation in Iran. | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
In a video report on the graphic images of violence that have been uploaded to the Web from inside Iran in the past few days, The Guardian’s Cath Brazier points to this video, apparently shot outside the Basij militia base on Azadi Square in Tehran on Monday evening: This video does look like it might have been shot from a location very close to that shown in the video obtained by Channel 4 News of the shooting death of a protester in Azadi Square. That same shooting was described in the audio interview we linked to in our previous update. The amateur video above shows gunfire coming from the Basij building before some sort of Molotov cocktail seems to have been thrown in response. The footage Channel 4 aired on Monday was edited and only showed gunfire by the Basij after their building had been set alight. The exact sequence of events last night in Azadai Square will not be established firmly by these scraps of evidence gathered from the Internet, but it does seem important. If the authorities can say that violence was started by opposition protesters, it might be easier for them to justify a security crackdown on protest across the country. Near the beginning of the video, the crowd’s shouts of “Allahu Akbar!” (”God is great”) can be heard clearly. As many people have mentioned, the opposition is using this rallying cry, exactly as it was used during the early days of the Islamic revolution that overthrew the Shah in Iran. | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
That is one brave lady at the end there. | ||
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Chewits
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00187/tehran-crowd_187925s.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00187/tehran-crowd2_187927s.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00187/tehran-mousavi_187973s.jpg) That's alot of protesters :/ | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
Wearing wristbands and ribbons in his green campaign colors, the Mousavi supporters carried his picture and made victory signs. Unlike Monday’s demonstration where marchers chanted anti-Ahmadinejad slogans, they walked largely in silence. Some were passing on messages to others to meet again on Wednesday for a rally at Tehran’s central Haft-e Tir Square. http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE55F54020090616 Dozens of riot police, flanked by Basij militia forces, watched them as they passed through one major square. Near the marchers a riot police motorbike lay on the road in flames, but the demonstration appeared to be peaceful. | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
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PadrinO
Canada103 Posts
Other then that, -Iranian women are pretty hot -Every of these protesters deserve to be shot for trying to run out Ahmadinejad and replace him with Moussavi. That would've been the equivalent of the U.S. engaging in rioting to run out president Bush and have him replaced by Cheney. | ||
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Raikko
United Kingdom26 Posts
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Arbiter[frolix]
United Kingdom2674 Posts
On June 17 2009 02:26 Last Romantic wrote: I still don't understand why Xeris refuses to see that the election was so transparently rigged. Reports of the strike say most Tehran offices/businesses are deserted. As I said before, I think, I kind of have an open mind on thist. That said, as I observed in a previous post of mine, certainly the British media were pretty uniformly predicting an Ahmadinejad victory prior to the election. Could you direct me to those items of evidence which lead you to believe it was rigged? | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On June 17 2009 02:26 Last Romantic wrote: I still don't understand why Xeris refuses to see that the election was so transparently rigged. Reports of the strike say most Tehran offices/businesses are deserted. I still don't understand why you're posting here when you have no clue what you're talking about? Maybe try reading my posts in this thread. What evidence do you have that the election was "so transparently rigged" ? You shouldn't make outlandish claims when you don't understand the situation at all. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
During the Revolution, Iranians in Los Angeles protests, my dad was an organizer of a lot of protests, and they were so bad that American police forces used violence against them. If even American police used violence, what do you think Iranian police would do (aka, Iranian police are much more aggressive and there is not an established culture of nonviolnce etc)? Everyone's making the protesters out to be these happy go lucky Iranians peacefully sitting around protesting. No, they're probably starting fires, breaking shit, insulting the government, etc. I'm not condoning the violence used against them - but it goes both ways and you need to understand that. If they were protesting in a perfectly peaceful way, the government wouldn't be killing them. The fact that thousands of Iranians get together, start protesting, get into a frenzy, and can't control themselves is cause for concern and explains the government's reactions. There is no right or wrong in this case because at this point both parties are equally guilty. | ||
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