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liosama
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Australia843 Posts
February 10 2009 23:14 GMT
#61
learn the (proper) (Australian) way of abbreviation
CSc
or Cs

but this has nothing to do with computer science, rather programming

that being said.. that aint really impressive~ one of my russian friends was programming back in primary school too, in BASIC/C and im pretty sure he wrote more complicated stuff than this.

kids all over the world back in my day were programming basic; and learning 6,h like others have said isn't that huge. Im pretty sure his dad showed him all the roots and the shortcuts.

But good on him
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armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
February 10 2009 23:14 GMT
#62
Once I read an article about him by someone who has some more depth in their insight than "omg hes 9 years old and he wrote a program" or he accomplishes something beyond the scope of basic instruction, maybe I'll care.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
February 10 2009 23:17 GMT
#63
On February 11 2009 02:43 EsX_Raptor wrote:
//**********************************************************************************************************
// program designed to make you look like a kid that is better than every other mother's sons
// retarded. upon the release of this program, many children inferior to you will suffer as they
// will be compared to you. program is an aunto-download thus instant profit as mothers will
// be downloading it to force their children to look at it and see how successful you are and
// how retarded they are.
//***********************************************************************************************************

finger.put = line;
shake.erase = true;
end


you haven't included or instantiated finger or shake. your program has caused and illegal operation and broke the internet.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
February 10 2009 23:41 GMT
#64
Does knowing of the language count?
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StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
February 10 2009 23:45 GMT
#65
his dad wrote it for him
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
February 11 2009 00:32 GMT
#66
On February 11 2009 06:56 pyrogenetix wrote:
lol these kinds of kids dont surprise me anymore. normally it's asian countries like korea china and japan that likes to encourage kids to be grossly educated in a single subject and then be totally useless in all other subjects and social life.

i remember was a chinese kid who was 11 and got into university to study physics and super string theory. after a week of not turning up at class the teachers started looking around for him. in the end they found him at home eating chips and watching cartoons on tv. when asked why he didnt go to class he said he didnt want to.


A lot of prodigies turn out to be well adjusted socially. Who cares if they're only good at one thing, I'd rather win a nobel prize in one thing than be good at many things. Terence Tao comes to my mind. I think at 24 he was already a professor, and by 30 he won a fields medal. He's married, has a kid, and he's a friendly, down to earth guy.
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Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
February 11 2009 00:41 GMT
#67
This isn't a big deal. It's cool, but not unbelievable.

Basically, this kid likes to learn about computers, and he has a family environment that supports his learning. Whether he learns to write a simple program at 9 or 19, it doesn't make much difference. E.g. a month of programming experience is almost equally valuable at both ages.

The only thing a kid his age is physically-incapable of learning is abstract concepts: that mental ability only arises around the age of 12. But this shouldn't stop him from learning to write simple applications, even with many different languages.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
February 11 2009 00:46 GMT
#68
If you ask me, autistic savants aside, the only thing that makes a child "prodigy" different is that the prodigy wasted less time during his or her childhood than an average child.

And since IQ is dependent on age for children, a "genius" child is simply one that wastes less of their time, say, watching TV, and instead spends that time learning.

Think about it: if, as a child, all your TV-watching hours were instead spent learning to program, or learning to write music, or learning some other skill, then you'd probably have become a child prodigy, too.
TaP.Nuada
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States428 Posts
February 11 2009 00:51 GMT
#69
On February 11 2009 02:33 Ideas wrote:
what's a 9 yr old doing with an iPhone

I really don't understand either. And he made the program for his YOUNGER sisters? wtf they all have iphones and are 9 years old or younger?

IMO if you're not out of high school there are very very very few reasons to have a cell phone period. Let alone a a bunch of kids running around with expensive iPhones...
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
February 11 2009 00:56 GMT
#70
On February 11 2009 09:46 Bill307 wrote:
If you ask me, autistic savants aside, the only thing that makes a child "prodigy" different is that the prodigy wasted less time during his or her childhood than an average child.

And since IQ is dependent on age for children, a "genius" child is simply one that wastes less of their time, say, watching TV, and instead spends that time learning.

Think about it: if, as a child, all your TV-watching hours were instead spent learning to program, or learning to write music, or learning some other skill, then you'd probably have become a child prodigy, too.


I disagree. There are many factors that separates a child prodigy from the rest of us chumps. IQ is one, the rage to master is one, and deliberate practice (with a supportive environment) is the other.

I mean even if a genius is just someone who "wastes less of their time" as you put it, the fire in them to singlemindedly pursue whatever their interested in is inborn. The desire NOT to waste time is something they're born with anyway. We can't choose to be passionate about something, and certainly not to the extent that prodigies are. Yeah, Bisu's multitasking, and Jaedong's mechanics, is just the result of 10 hours of daily arduous practice. Easy. >.>
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merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
February 11 2009 01:00 GMT
#71
Wtf

I came into this thread hoping for some 9 year old Counter-Strike gosu.
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Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-11 02:42:02
February 11 2009 02:28 GMT
#72
On February 11 2009 09:56 Warrior Madness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2009 09:46 Bill307 wrote:
If you ask me, autistic savants aside, the only thing that makes a child "prodigy" different is that the prodigy wasted less time during his or her childhood than an average child.

And since IQ is dependent on age for children, a "genius" child is simply one that wastes less of their time, say, watching TV, and instead spends that time learning.

Think about it: if, as a child, all your TV-watching hours were instead spent learning to program, or learning to write music, or learning some other skill, then you'd probably have become a child prodigy, too.


I disagree. There are many factors that separates a child prodigy from the rest of us chumps. IQ is one, the rage to master is one, and deliberate practice (with a supportive environment) is the other.

I mean even if a genius is just someone who "wastes less of their time" as you put it, the fire in them to singlemindedly pursue whatever their interested in is inborn. The desire NOT to waste time is something they're born with anyway. We can't choose to be passionate about something, and certainly not to the extent that prodigies are. Yeah, Bisu's multitasking, and Jaedong's mechanics, is just the result of 10 hours of daily arduous practice. Easy. >.>

These are just "facts" pulled out of your ass.

Edit: For example, "the fire in them to singlemindedly pursue whatever their interested in is inborn. The desire NOT to waste time is something they're born with anyway." I see no reason to believe this.

I see statements like that as merely an excuse for people who are either trying to justify the time they wasted as a child (which is unnecessary, 'cause we were all dumb when we were children anyway), or trying to justify their current laziness as being something they cannot change.


Edit 2: And by the way, people who believe their own poor performance is a result of uncontrollable factors such as genes are not only factually wrong, but also tend to have poor performance simply because they don't make any real, concerted effort to improve.

(Mentally disabled people excepted, of course.)
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-11 03:59:53
February 11 2009 03:54 GMT
#73
On February 11 2009 11:28 Bill307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2009 09:56 Warrior Madness wrote:
On February 11 2009 09:46 Bill307 wrote:
If you ask me, autistic savants aside, the only thing that makes a child "prodigy" different is that the prodigy wasted less time during his or her childhood than an average child.

And since IQ is dependent on age for children, a "genius" child is simply one that wastes less of their time, say, watching TV, and instead spends that time learning.

Think about it: if, as a child, all your TV-watching hours were instead spent learning to program, or learning to write music, or learning some other skill, then you'd probably have become a child prodigy, too.


I disagree. There are many factors that separates a child prodigy from the rest of us chumps. IQ is one, the rage to master is one, and deliberate practice (with a supportive environment) is the other.

I mean even if a genius is just someone who "wastes less of their time" as you put it, the fire in them to singlemindedly pursue whatever their interested in is inborn. The desire NOT to waste time is something they're born with anyway. We can't choose to be passionate about something, and certainly not to the extent that prodigies are. Yeah, Bisu's multitasking, and Jaedong's mechanics, is just the result of 10 hours of daily arduous practice. Easy. >.>

These are just "facts" pulled out of your ass.

Edit: For example, "the fire in them to singlemindedly pursue whatever their interested in is inborn. The desire NOT to waste time is something they're born with anyway." I see no reason to believe this.

I see statements like that as merely an excuse for people who are either trying to justify the time they wasted as a child (which is unnecessary, 'cause we were all dumb when we were children anyway), or trying to justify their current laziness as being something they cannot change.


Edit 2: And by the way, people who believe their own poor performance is a result of uncontrollable factors such as genes are not only factually wrong, but also tend to have poor performance simply because they don't make any real, concerted effort to improve.

(Mentally disabled people excepted, of course.)


What's your problem? Calm down. These are facts pulled out of my ass? lol? More like facts pulled out of psychology books. What I say, for example regarding "the rage to master" is a fact well established in the psychology of expertise. I don't care how much your mom or teachers encourage you, there are only a handful of people who have the drive to put in the 10,000 hours to achieve elite performance. This drive is largely genetic.

What you say in Edit 2 is something called the locus of control.

Btw, it's ironic that you concede mentally retarded people are mentally retarded because of well... genes. But God forbid NORMAL people differed because of genes! You know, like hair colour, height, athletic prowess, intelligence, personality.
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
February 11 2009 04:38 GMT
#74
On February 11 2009 10:00 meRz wrote:
Wtf

I came into this thread hoping for some 9 year old Counter-Strike gosu.


join the club.
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lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
February 11 2009 04:44 GMT
#75
anyways

just got it

doodle kids is pretty cool IMO

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Llamaz
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia90 Posts
February 11 2009 05:24 GMT
#76
I don't see why this is a big deal... I taught myself a bit of C++ when I was 8, before promptly losing interest, and started playing cs 1.6 :D. Its been said before, but programming is NOT hard. It's just time consuming.

If he went to university, or could play mozart at this age...well thats a completetly different story.

Congrats to the kid for learning all those languages at that age BTW ^^.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
February 11 2009 05:28 GMT
#77
Yep, I'd say if any of us had a burning interest of anything at all when we were 9 years old we'd probably be making 25 year old CS majors feel useless too.

Don't get me wrong, I liked computers when I was a kid, but between coding basic and playing Doom, I mean really? What makes a prodigy, I think, is a serious chemical imbalance in their brain that causes them to rather think than blast demons. Ew.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 11 2009 05:35 GMT
#78
The title is misleading.

Programming/Software development != Computer Science
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-11 07:50:33
February 11 2009 07:47 GMT
#79
On February 11 2009 14:35 TheYango wrote:
The title is misleading.

Programming/Software development != Computer Science

the genius part is misleading
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 11 2009 07:51 GMT
#80
On February 11 2009 13:38 404.Nitrogen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2009 10:00 meRz wrote:
Wtf

I came into this thread hoping for some 9 year old Counter-Strike gosu.


join the club.


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