EPTBeyond the Third Dimension - Page 2
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Patrio
Norway706 Posts
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GoodWill
Canada149 Posts
I've watched this a few times, though I "kind of" get the idea (I don't understand every example he gives). I googled a bit and read stuff here and there before conceding that my high school level physics/math is simply not sufficient to comprehend this theory as well as I'd like to (and there seems to be competing theories on this topic as well). The best I have come with is that there are more than one universe or there are parts of this universe that us living in "our" part can never interact with. So instead of trying to make sense of it myself, I've come up with one "simple" question to those of you who have a better education on this subject (and I would prefer that only those who specialize in the relevant scientific disciplines gave us a piece of their mind so as to cut down reading time for everybody else): How well is the idea that our universe comprises of more than 3 spatial dimension accepted in the scientific community at large? From the video, I get the idea that this man is trying to take the existing formulas that worked for 1/2/3 spatial dimensions and arbitrarily expanded that to a fourth, to quote wiki: Abstract five-dimensional space occurs frequently in mathematics, and is a perfectly legitimate construct. Whether or not the real universe in which we live is somehow five-dimensional is a topic that is debated and explored in several branches of physics, including astrophysics and particle physics. There are apparently theories out there that proposes 11 dimensions, or infinite dimensions as well, does the scientific community treat these ideas like evolution theory or the young earth theory? If they do, do they stop at 4th spatial dimension or do they expand the number of dimensions indefinitely? | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Not 100% accurate, but good enough to give you an idea | ||
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
Time, as far as I assume, isn't a spatial dimension, so I think they mean something different. | ||
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GoodWill
Canada149 Posts
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Dave[9]
United States2365 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On May 24 2009 12:42 Plexa wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o Not 100% accurate, but good enough to give you an idea When I watch that I can only think of two things: "Wow...." and "God" | ||
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Freyr
United States500 Posts
On May 24 2009 12:56 GoodWill wrote: How well is the idea that our universe comprises of more than 3 spatial dimension accepted in the scientific community at large? It's not accepted at all The preponderance of the multidimensionality talk comes from string theory, which doesn't even approach completeness, let alone correctness, and may turn out to be a complete waste of time. But there is plenty of weird stuff to bend your mind that's associated with useful branches of physics, such as the parallel universe concept associated with quantum physics. | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
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sudo.era
United States300 Posts
On May 24 2009 11:52 GoodWill wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDaKzQNlMFw I've watched this a few times, though I "kind of" get the idea (I don't understand every example he gives). I googled a bit and read stuff here and there before conceding that my high school level physics/math is simply not sufficient to comprehend this theory as well as I'd like to (and there seems to be competing theories on this topic as well). The best I have come with is that there are more than one universe or there are parts of this universe that us living in "our" part can never interact with. So instead of trying to make sense of it myself, I've come up with one "simple" question to those of you who have a better education on this subject (and I would prefer that only those who specialize in the relevant scientific disciplines gave us a piece of their mind so as to cut down reading time for everybody else): How well is the idea that our universe comprises of more than 3 spatial dimension accepted in the scientific community at large? From the video, I get the idea that this man is trying to take the existing formulas that worked for 1/2/3 spatial dimensions and arbitrarily expanded that to a fourth, to quote wiki: There are apparently theories out there that proposes 11 dimensions, or infinite dimensions as well, does the scientific community treat these ideas like evolution theory or the young earth theory? If they do, do they stop at 4th spatial dimension or do they expand the number of dimensions indefinitely? If you knocked off the word "spatial", then the dimension in question would be what we commonly refer to as "time". I guess you might've known that. However, time could be a spatial definition if you can come to terms with the idea. It's not like evolution vs. young earth because it's not observable; it's not even an experiment. In fact, all dimensional reasoning is both factual and theoretical. It all exists in theory, much like math. So it's not a question of whether or not it exists; it's a theoretical idea that doesn't propose to be real in the same sense that chocolate and evolution is real. | ||
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GoodWill
Canada149 Posts
On May 24 2009 16:01 sudo.era wrote: If you knocked off the word "spatial", then the dimension in question would be what we commonly refer to as "time". I guess you might've known that. However, time could be a spatial definition if you can come to terms with the idea. It's not like evolution vs. young earth because it's not observable; it's not even an experiment. In fact, all dimensional reasoning is both factual and theoretical. It all exists in theory, much like math. So it's not a question of whether or not it exists; it's a theoretical idea that doesn't propose to be real in the same sense that chocolate and evolution is real. Well, if some of the stuff and properties about the proposed alternative universes and time travels are true, then it certainly won't be theoretical. They said something about string theories saying that they can be tested but they don't have the equipment for it in the short term. From what you said, I get the feeling you see this like one of those discussions about afterlife that's really hard to prove or argue, just speculations, except this time it's science and they have a (remote) chance to prove (or disprove) it somewhere down the road. But is that where the general consensus of the physics science community stands? That a 4th spatial dimension doesn't exist and people are only constructing it in their heads (and on paper) to further some theoretical calculations. | ||
AltaiR_
Korea (South)922 Posts
On May 24 2009 12:42 Plexa wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o Not 100% accurate, but good enough to give you an idea damn beat me to it | ||
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SilentNoodle
Australia290 Posts
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BalliSLife
1339 Posts
On May 27 2009 17:04 SilentNoodle wrote: *head explodes* lol | ||
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Railxp
Hong Kong1313 Posts
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
It's quite hard to express it.. You can't change it, "it goes continously itself", but only in one direction. Whatever. Linear algebra for the win! | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
Visit a broad spectrum of frequencie variant of the same room, for instance, you are in a room. In this room theres you, theres sound and light, theres Bob, and theres also a lower tier 4d entity. You will be able to hear the sound, see the light. the lower tier 4d entity will be able to see you and a multitude of layers, his perception of the sound and light will be amplified, but he will not be able to see Bob, because bob is too far away in the frequencies spectrum, the weak one cant really get to grasp him, if bob were to pass in front of you in your frequencie, you would see only a shadow of him, because as an entity, he exists across a broad spectrum of frequencies and our perception is limited to fewer than his whole body. Bob would see everything and the lower tier, he would be able to make himself visible for both if he so wanted, but unless he does he can stay hidden ... smokin | ||
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