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tdotkrayz
United States136 Posts
http://tetraspace.alkaline.org/ Of particular interest was when the guy talked about how war would operate in the 2nd and 4th dimensions: http://tetraspace.alkaline.org/page7.htm Or when he talks about what a 4th dimension life form could do to us: Makes me wonder if God is a 4th dimensional being... | ||
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Whyzguy
Canada263 Posts
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Person514cs
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dream-_-
United States1857 Posts
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Choros
Australia530 Posts
A way of thinking about 'good' or 'bad' is that there are two fundamentally different paths to the same thing (interestingly Star wars with their Jedi and Sith is based around this) the two paths are self to self, and self to others, and at the lower levels of existence including the 4th dimension these are in a state of perpetual flux and conflict. We cannot by definition perceive what 4th dimensional existence is like (let alone the 11th etc) one way of comprehending this is to consider that science actually tells us that time does not exist on any dimension 'above' (although within is more accurate) our own. Existence with no time is beyond our comprehension. | ||
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pSikh0
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Culture
Canada488 Posts
On January 31 2009 15:11 Choros wrote: Yes well god is not a 4th dimensional being, it is more accurate to say that angels are 4th dimensional beings. In fact we have come to realize that there are around 12 dimensions that exist, and of course this creates scientific backing to whatever theology you want to throw at it be that Buddhism or Christianity etc. It would appear that 4th dimensional beings are not that much more mature than we are and do engage in conflict with one another. What? I don't understand, angels? God(s)? 4th dimensional beings engaging in conflict? Are you engaging in wishful thinking or something? As far as I know, dimensions past 4 in string theory are thought to be under plank's length in size and thought to be undetectable. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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Ichigo1234551
United States649 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
There was some string theory video posted from youtube long time ago, illustrating multiple dimensions (like 11 or something) | ||
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Ichigo1234551
United States649 Posts
I love how religious people are trying to make science ideas support their religion... also Allah is the only god! there is no other | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
http://timecube.com/ | ||
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Ichigo1234551
United States649 Posts
wow i completely agree with that guy. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On January 31 2009 14:13 tdotkrayz wrote: Makes me wonder if God is a 4th dimensional being... Damn. If only you wouldn't have written this; this thread could have become something great. But now that you did, I guess I have no choice: Of course she isn't; because she doesn't exist beyond our minds. | ||
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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
On January 31 2009 17:44 Ichigo1234551 wrote: wow i completely agree with that guy. how far did you read? who do you agree with shadowdrgn or the time cube author oray612959? | ||
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Choros
Australia530 Posts
On January 31 2009 16:35 Culture wrote: What? I don't understand, angels? God(s)? 4th dimensional beings engaging in conflict? Are you engaging in wishful thinking or something? As far as I know, dimensions past 4 in string theory are thought to be under plank's length in size and thought to be undetectable. Well talking about angels and god is simply acting under the assumption that Christianity is true. The point I was making is simply that there are levels immediately 'above' us that are not that different from our own so you could refer to them as angels as opposed to dimensions far above them which would be 'god' I do not wish to suggest that I know that these things are true in any case simply thinking about potential possibilities and more simple ways for us to perceive it. This notion of 'size' however I dont think is significant because physical properties as we would define them become completely irrelevant they no longer exist. That these levels of reality are real would appear to be fact but ultimately what they involve is speculation. It is my belief however that the recent ideas out of science has opened up avenues for spiritual thought. | ||
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Choros
Australia530 Posts
On January 31 2009 17:31 Ichigo1234551 wrote: WHAT DOES GOD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH EXTRA DIMENSION??? I love how religious people are trying to make science ideas support their religion... also Allah is the only god! there is no other I largely addressed this in my previous post but the point I will make is that religions could use science to support their theology however they do not because they are unwilling to accept these scientific ideas or even consider adapting their ideology. This does create what you could call a new religion (which is not a religion but a way of thinking about the world, religions are inherently restrictive on progressive thought) 'Scientific spiritualism' a blend of what science has said is true and thinking about what spiritual implications that has. Implications which are by some argument profound. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
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Culture
Canada488 Posts
On January 31 2009 18:07 Choros wrote: Well talking about angels and god is simply acting under the assumption that Christianity is true. The point I was making is simply that there are levels immediately 'above' us that are not that different from our own so you could refer to them as angels as opposed to dimensions far above them which would be 'god' I do not wish to suggest that I know that these things are true in any case simply thinking about potential possibilities and more simple ways for us to perceive it. This notion of 'size' however I dont think is significant because physical properties as we would define them become completely irrelevant they no longer exist. That these levels of reality are real would appear to be fact but ultimately what they involve is speculation. It is my belief however that the recent ideas out of science has opened up avenues for spiritual thought. It is distasteful to start with the assumption that something is true and look for evidence that supports your (preselected) conclusion, discard evidence that doesn't, and adapt and fiddle with evidence to make it fit. This is called confirmation bias. An example of making evidence fit is such: Suppose I had a theory that there was a conspiracy in the world about me, anytime people would dismiss my claims would appear to be evidence that they were in on the conspiracy. However, scientific understanding does not start out with dogmatic assumptions but rather tries to find models that fit the data we have. Usually, since there are in the simplest of terms 'numbers' involved, we can be create tests to check the validity of theories -- ie anyone with a stopwatch and measuring tape can check the validity of the theory of gravity. Alas, no mathematical models exist in the religious inspired pseudo-pseudo-science. Also, the lack of any kind of peer review does not help with reliability. Now, I think you do raise an interesting point -- that concepts of n-dimensional space are so difficult to imagine visually. To construct models of them to interact with in our brain is also extremely difficult -- whereas we can imagine a triangle or a cube in 2d 'in our mind's eye', we can not easily do so to larger vector spaces. Hence, the most trained response to explain this is to go to concepts of 'god'. This is simply because we as humans are, as Dawkins gracefully put it, middle worlders, capable of perceiving only a tiny fraction of input in terms of size, spectrum, length of time that lies somewhere in the middle of the possibilities the universe has to offer. Just as we can not easily imagine subatomic particles, quantum 'strangeness' or even relatively larger molecules, just as we can not imagine the vast scale of our solar system, or local cluster where the sun would be but one tiny grain of sand in a vast void, or our galaxy, or the galaxies we know to exist through visual and other spectrum observation and inference, just as we can not fathom to understand timescales beyond our immediate experience -- from the almost infinitely small time it takes light to travel planck's length,~ 5.4 x 10 ^ -44 s, to the approximate age of the universe, 13.7 billion years, just as we can not see in infrared or xray, similarly we can not imagine n-dimensional space above 3. It's a trained response to call that which you do not understand 'god'. Too bad the concept has been taken over by most to mean something completely different. | ||
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Patrio
Norway706 Posts
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GoodWill
Canada149 Posts
I've watched this a few times, though I "kind of" get the idea (I don't understand every example he gives). I googled a bit and read stuff here and there before conceding that my high school level physics/math is simply not sufficient to comprehend this theory as well as I'd like to (and there seems to be competing theories on this topic as well). The best I have come with is that there are more than one universe or there are parts of this universe that us living in "our" part can never interact with. So instead of trying to make sense of it myself, I've come up with one "simple" question to those of you who have a better education on this subject (and I would prefer that only those who specialize in the relevant scientific disciplines gave us a piece of their mind so as to cut down reading time for everybody else): How well is the idea that our universe comprises of more than 3 spatial dimension accepted in the scientific community at large? From the video, I get the idea that this man is trying to take the existing formulas that worked for 1/2/3 spatial dimensions and arbitrarily expanded that to a fourth, to quote wiki: Abstract five-dimensional space occurs frequently in mathematics, and is a perfectly legitimate construct. Whether or not the real universe in which we live is somehow five-dimensional is a topic that is debated and explored in several branches of physics, including astrophysics and particle physics. There are apparently theories out there that proposes 11 dimensions, or infinite dimensions as well, does the scientific community treat these ideas like evolution theory or the young earth theory? If they do, do they stop at 4th spatial dimension or do they expand the number of dimensions indefinitely? | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Not 100% accurate, but good enough to give you an idea | ||
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
Time, as far as I assume, isn't a spatial dimension, so I think they mean something different. | ||
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GoodWill
Canada149 Posts
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Dave[9]
United States2365 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On May 24 2009 12:42 Plexa wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o Not 100% accurate, but good enough to give you an idea When I watch that I can only think of two things: "Wow...." and "God" | ||
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Freyr
United States500 Posts
On May 24 2009 12:56 GoodWill wrote: How well is the idea that our universe comprises of more than 3 spatial dimension accepted in the scientific community at large? It's not accepted at all The preponderance of the multidimensionality talk comes from string theory, which doesn't even approach completeness, let alone correctness, and may turn out to be a complete waste of time. But there is plenty of weird stuff to bend your mind that's associated with useful branches of physics, such as the parallel universe concept associated with quantum physics. | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
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sudo.era
United States300 Posts
On May 24 2009 11:52 GoodWill wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDaKzQNlMFw I've watched this a few times, though I "kind of" get the idea (I don't understand every example he gives). I googled a bit and read stuff here and there before conceding that my high school level physics/math is simply not sufficient to comprehend this theory as well as I'd like to (and there seems to be competing theories on this topic as well). The best I have come with is that there are more than one universe or there are parts of this universe that us living in "our" part can never interact with. So instead of trying to make sense of it myself, I've come up with one "simple" question to those of you who have a better education on this subject (and I would prefer that only those who specialize in the relevant scientific disciplines gave us a piece of their mind so as to cut down reading time for everybody else): How well is the idea that our universe comprises of more than 3 spatial dimension accepted in the scientific community at large? From the video, I get the idea that this man is trying to take the existing formulas that worked for 1/2/3 spatial dimensions and arbitrarily expanded that to a fourth, to quote wiki: There are apparently theories out there that proposes 11 dimensions, or infinite dimensions as well, does the scientific community treat these ideas like evolution theory or the young earth theory? If they do, do they stop at 4th spatial dimension or do they expand the number of dimensions indefinitely? If you knocked off the word "spatial", then the dimension in question would be what we commonly refer to as "time". I guess you might've known that. However, time could be a spatial definition if you can come to terms with the idea. It's not like evolution vs. young earth because it's not observable; it's not even an experiment. In fact, all dimensional reasoning is both factual and theoretical. It all exists in theory, much like math. So it's not a question of whether or not it exists; it's a theoretical idea that doesn't propose to be real in the same sense that chocolate and evolution is real. | ||
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GoodWill
Canada149 Posts
On May 24 2009 16:01 sudo.era wrote: If you knocked off the word "spatial", then the dimension in question would be what we commonly refer to as "time". I guess you might've known that. However, time could be a spatial definition if you can come to terms with the idea. It's not like evolution vs. young earth because it's not observable; it's not even an experiment. In fact, all dimensional reasoning is both factual and theoretical. It all exists in theory, much like math. So it's not a question of whether or not it exists; it's a theoretical idea that doesn't propose to be real in the same sense that chocolate and evolution is real. Well, if some of the stuff and properties about the proposed alternative universes and time travels are true, then it certainly won't be theoretical. They said something about string theories saying that they can be tested but they don't have the equipment for it in the short term. From what you said, I get the feeling you see this like one of those discussions about afterlife that's really hard to prove or argue, just speculations, except this time it's science and they have a (remote) chance to prove (or disprove) it somewhere down the road. But is that where the general consensus of the physics science community stands? That a 4th spatial dimension doesn't exist and people are only constructing it in their heads (and on paper) to further some theoretical calculations. | ||
AltaiR_
Korea (South)922 Posts
On May 24 2009 12:42 Plexa wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o Not 100% accurate, but good enough to give you an idea damn beat me to it | ||
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SilentNoodle
Australia290 Posts
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BalliSLife
1339 Posts
On May 27 2009 17:04 SilentNoodle wrote: *head explodes* lol | ||
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Railxp
Hong Kong1313 Posts
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
It's quite hard to express it.. You can't change it, "it goes continously itself", but only in one direction. Whatever. Linear algebra for the win! | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
Visit a broad spectrum of frequencie variant of the same room, for instance, you are in a room. In this room theres you, theres sound and light, theres Bob, and theres also a lower tier 4d entity. You will be able to hear the sound, see the light. the lower tier 4d entity will be able to see you and a multitude of layers, his perception of the sound and light will be amplified, but he will not be able to see Bob, because bob is too far away in the frequencies spectrum, the weak one cant really get to grasp him, if bob were to pass in front of you in your frequencie, you would see only a shadow of him, because as an entity, he exists across a broad spectrum of frequencies and our perception is limited to fewer than his whole body. Bob would see everything and the lower tier, he would be able to make himself visible for both if he so wanted, but unless he does he can stay hidden ... smokin | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On May 24 2009 12:45 da_head wrote: 4th dimension is time. we are 3d beings trapped in a 4d world. 5d is guessed to be time travel or of the sorts. No, Time is one variable you can apply as a fourth dimension for applications in physics. Time is not the fourth dimension. It's kind of how like when you draw a line graph, you set what axes are what. So you could have the X axis be time and the Y axis be money, and show how money changes over time. Physicists plot time as the fourth dimension to show how things in 3D change over time. | ||
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Sky
Jordan812 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism It appears string theory has gotten a little too "hip". | ||
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
http://dimensions-math.org/ | ||
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Marine50
Australia1764 Posts
wow great site! | ||
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Un4Seen
Australia49 Posts
I will give a example within our realm certain possibilitys are not considered possible, but within other realms it could be possible this is were the variations come into it, and the limitations of its parametres based on its specific laws and its purpose. At present humanity occupys a 3rd 'Density' experience within a specific variable of Dimension, the variables are in themselfs each a infinity this applys for all levels of density. Each dimension itself has its own variation of how time will function "this can differ" because it is limited by the observer, and in it truth is only a function present to give the illusion of a specific experience; that being linear perception of progress through untilization of experience. Dimensions are duplications of a gravitional field known as the unified field, each dimension itself has a unique signiture to indentify it position in the universe as well as a unique signiture to indentify the position in time of a experience. This applys for all densitys which limit the possibilitys of the experience of the observer in it giving perception of understanding reality itself. that will do for now questions are welcome.... | ||
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HiOT
Sweden1000 Posts
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Un4Seen
Australia49 Posts
Because height, length and width are no longer required time is no longer relevant since time is based on a 3rd density perspective of mathomatics and in truth is not real. Lobbo if you would (have to add spin). | ||
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Un4Seen
Australia49 Posts
On January 31 2009 14:13 tdotkrayz wrote: I just read some stuff that totally blew my mind. It had to do with how the world would work if it wasn't based on 3 dimensions. http://tetraspace.alkaline.org/ Of particular interest was when the guy talked about how war would operate in the 2nd and 4th dimensions: http://tetraspace.alkaline.org/page7.htm Or when he talks about what a 4th dimension life form could do to us: Makes me wonder if God is a 4th dimensional being... Not 4th dimension the perspective of a 4th density experience of Dimension is humanitys next stage in evolution. God is a 7th density being the original dimension known as the unified field. We will see some 4th density activity of dimension closer we get to 2012 events. Understand that 7th density incorporates all lower densitys and the dimension variations of each it truely is the only constant, and is gravity the force which brings exsistance into balance expressing itself as polarizations to allow for motion (gravity acts as the bind and balancing mechanism for all exsistance). Gravity is the intelligence of what we call God that being the wave functions of short and long wave cycles to give all realms it own originality through conscious untilization ('thinking' process of creating thought) which in it unstable state creates all manner of frequecy vibrations which as you know form all the different types of matter that ecompasses the physical universe which simply is the result of energy and energy itself is the concept Spirit which is achieved through untilization of Anti matter. | ||
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pokeyAA
United States936 Posts
On May 28 2009 01:35 Un4Seen wrote: Not 4th dimension the perspective of a 4th density experience of Dimension is humanitys next stage in evolution. God is a 7th density being the original dimension known as the unified field. We will see some 4th density activity of dimension closer we get to 2012 events. Understand that 7th density incorporates all lower densitys and the dimension variations of each it truely is the only constant, and is gravity the force which brings exsistance into balance expressing itself as polarizations to allow for motion (gravity acts as the bind and balancing mechanism for all exsistance). Gravity is the intelligence of what we call God that being the wave functions of short and long wave cycles to give all realms it own originality through conscious untilization ('thinking' process of creating thought) which in it unstable state creates all manner of frequecy vibrations which as you know form all the different types of matter that ecompasses the physical universe which simply is the result of energy and energy itself is the concept Spirit which is achieved through untilization of Anti matter. I'm sorry but wtf?! | ||
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gameguard
Korea (South)2131 Posts
thats some cool sci fi | ||
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baal
10535 Posts
On May 27 2009 18:55 Railxp wrote: LOL my same reaction, i thought "interesting thread" then some retard goes saying angels are 4rth dimensional beings rofl | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
Is it not a worthy thought ? Dont you ever get high and imagine crazy shit ? | ||
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Bebop Berserker
United States246 Posts
On May 28 2009 03:59 D10 wrote: Can you prove they are not ? Is it not a worthy thought ? Dont you ever get high and imagine crazy shit ? One.... I dont need to be high to do this. Two it is pointless to talk about things we have NO proof for. If we do this the possibilities are endless. Doesn't sound too efficient does it. | ||
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Guss
Sweden712 Posts
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
I watched this a few months ago, and I had the biggest headache after four hours... Not even funny -_-. | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2747 Posts
http://tetraspace.alkaline.org/page7.htm Oh and of course god is a 4 dimensional being cause he is with everyone at the same time | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On May 28 2009 04:19 Bebop Berserker wrote: it is pointless to talk about things we have NO proof for yea fuck the scientists who make up theories or do any kind of research! fuck religion and fuck the weather forecast! | ||
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Wohmfg
United Kingdom1292 Posts
On May 28 2009 04:47 freelander wrote: yea fuck the scientists who make up theories or do any kind of research! fuck religion and fuck the weather forecast! Theories that are based on observations, not just plucked out of the air because they conform to your beliefs. | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
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Hippopotamus
1914 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On May 28 2009 04:56 Wohmfg wrote: Theories that are based on observations, not just plucked out of the air because they conform to your beliefs. On the contrary, most of modern science is based on beliefs, if you think Newton, Planck, Einstein, Maxwell, Darwin and countless others didn't tap their faith to put forth theories, then you know very little about science  God and however or how many variations of faith is very much relevant to science up until the Atomic Era. | ||
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
On May 28 2009 05:11 Judicator wrote: Well darwin's and einstein's variation of faith (which is not having any in the religious sense) are still prevalent in science up to today. Newton on the other hand, appears to have believed in god (wikipedia), but of course that might not have influenced him in the slightest as far as which ideas he came up with, which were quite contrary at that time to the beliefs of the church (sun orbiting around the earth). And i almost forgot maxwell. I'm not so familiar with this name that i know who it refers to. I see on wikipedia's list of known persons with that name however no scientists, and one theologian?On the contrary, most of modern science is based on beliefs, if you think Newton, Planck, Einstein, Maxwell, Darwin and countless others didn't tap their faith to put forth theories, then you know very little about science God and however or how many variations of faith is very much relevant to science up until the Atomic Era. | ||
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drift0ut
United Kingdom691 Posts
On May 28 2009 05:57 zobz wrote: Well darwin's and einstein's variation of faith (which is not having any in the religious sense) are still prevalent in science up to today. Newton on the other hand, appears to have believed in god (wikipedia), but of course that might not have influenced him in the slightest as far as which ideas he came up with, which were quite contrary at that time to the beliefs of the church (sun orbiting around the earth). And i almost forgot maxwell. I'm not so familiar with this name that i know who it refers to. I see on wikipedia's list of known persons with that name however no scientists, and one theologian? wiki: James_Clerk_Maxwell Maxwell is considered by many physicists to be the nineteenth century scientist with the greatest influence on twentieth century physics. His contributions to the science are considered by many to be of the same magnitude as those of Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein.[3] In the end of millenium poll, a survey of the 100 most prominent physicists saw Maxwell voted the third greatest physicist of all time, behind only Newton and Einstein.[4] On the centennial of Maxwell's birthday, Einstein himself described Maxwell's work as the "most profound and the most fruitful that physics has experienced since the time of Newton."[5] Einstein kept a photograph of Maxwell on his study wall, alongside pictures of Michael Faraday and Newton.[6] | ||
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Mr.Pyro
Denmark959 Posts
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Bozali
Sweden155 Posts
On January 31 2009 14:13 tdotkrayz wrote: Makes me wonder if God is a 4th dimensional being... On January 31 2009 15:11 Choros wrote: Yes well god is not a 4th dimensional being, it is more accurate to say that angels are 4th dimensional beings. made me lol | ||
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FaTe)SoL
Canada110 Posts
Anyways, shouldn't the fourth dimension be time? | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
Do you even know what the fourth dimension is? Do you have a thorough knowledge of manifolds and vector calculus and tensor calculus? Can you explain to me how YOU came up with the idea that "god" is living in the 4th dimension? why not the 5th dimension? what makes the 4th so pleasant for god? Some people believe god is everywhere, some people believe god is living in the sky, some people believe god is outside of space-time some people have no clue what they are talking about. | ||
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baal
10535 Posts
On May 28 2009 03:59 D10 wrote: Can you prove they are not ? Is it not a worthy thought ? Dont you ever get high and imagine crazy shit ? are you asking me if i can prove angels dont live in the 4rth dimension? are you freaking serious? | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
On May 28 2009 08:21 baal wrote: are you asking me if i can prove angels dont live in the 4rth dimension? are you freaking serious? You can't prove it therefore it exist! Just like you can't prove I have a invisible dragon in my closet! I KNOW he is there, you just gotta have faith. | ||
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samurai ninja
United States29 Posts
Insanity aside, I do not understand the guy's argument that there are ONLY 4 simultaneous days in one earth rotation. Aren't there infinitely many simultaneous days? | ||
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FaTe)SoL
Canada110 Posts
On May 28 2009 08:27 Rev0lution wrote: You can't prove it therefore it exist! Just like you can't prove I have a invisible dragon in my closet! I KNOW he is there, you just gotta have faith. If that's sarcasm, it's not funny. It's better to leave a variable ambiguous than to make arbitrary assumptions | ||
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baal
10535 Posts
On May 28 2009 08:35 FaTe)SoL wrote: If that's sarcasm, it's not funny. It's better to leave a variable ambiguous than to make arbitrary assumptions are you doubting its sarcasm? its obviously not sarcasm... he honestly believes a dragon lives in his closet... (that was sarcasm since ur sarcasm detector is broken) and he is right, the fact i cannot disprove something it doesnt make it in the slightly less real. | ||
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Un4Seen
Australia49 Posts
On May 28 2009 05:07 Hippopotamus wrote: So reading the first post by Un4Seen I got this feeling "hmm, that's kinda cranky". By the 4th one, there is no more doubt. This a crank on TL.net trying to convince us of some bullshit he thought up in his spare time. It isnt bs it is the future of quantum physics, quantum physics supports the concept of God and exposes the lies of religion, the closest religion to truth is 'buddism' but even it is flawed so it best to just understand God from the 'scientific' point of view. | ||
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baal
10535 Posts
On May 28 2009 12:31 Un4Seen wrote: It isnt bs it is the future of quantum physics, quantum physics supports the concept of God and exposes the lies of religion, the closest religion to truth is 'buddism' but even it is flawed so it best to just understand God from the 'scientific' point of view. what the fuck are you talking about, quantum physics doesnt support any concept of god and there is no such thing as the closest religion to truth, science does not acknowledge any god nor concept of it. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
On May 28 2009 14:12 baal wrote: what the fuck are you talking about, quantum physics doesnt support any concept of god and there is no such thing as the closest religion to truth, science does not acknowledge any god nor concept of it. | ||
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Un4Seen
Australia49 Posts
On May 28 2009 14:12 baal wrote: what the fuck are you talking about, quantum physics doesnt support any concept of god and there is no such thing as the closest religion to truth, science does not acknowledge any god nor concept of it. Yes it does, have you not heard of the 'God particule'? Quantum physics not only does it support the Idea of God it has found evidence of how God could be a omipresent being. In your perception there is no such thing as closest religion to truth but science does acknowledge the possibility "even famous physicians have had faith". This does not mean that the christian or any other dominate religion is considered truth it just means that there is evidence of the potentional of a omipresent force which fits the description giving by the bible, In my own view religions are corruption and do not represent God at all, in fact they give it a bad name. | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
from wikipedia you moron. The Higgs boson is sometimes referred to as "the God particle," after the title of Leon Lederman's book for lay readers.[15] The term mistakenly implies that the Higgs boson would complete our understanding of physics. In fact, while the discovery of the Higgs boson would be a groundbreaking stage in the story of electroweak unification, it would leave remaining the question of unification with Quantum Chromodynamics (QCD), gravity, and the ultimate origins and early evolution of the universe. Being an atheist, Peter Higgs dislikes the epithet "God particle".[16] The term is rarely used by particle physicists when discussing the Higgs Boson; its prevalence is primarily due to its usage in popular media. Just...stop posting. | ||
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Un4Seen
Australia49 Posts
Another thing you should be aware of is that the prophercys spoken are occuring now and that the last event will be arrival of a gravity wave, many scientists are becoming spiritual because evidence is mounting to the exsistance of the spirit. | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
On May 29 2009 01:02 Un4Seen wrote: revolution wikipedia is not best idea to understand what the 'God particle' means only lazy low IQ people use that as only resource tool, everything I have said is accuate if you had the means to experiment and check for yourself you would be proven that it is right. Another thing you should be aware of is that the prophercys spoken are occuring now and that the last event will be arrival of a gravity wave, many scientists are becoming spiritual because evidence is mounting to the exsistance of the spirit. The only reason this author used the term "God particle" is for amusement only, do you understand that, or is it too hard to stray away from your dogmatism? Your last paragraph simply tells me that you are a crackpot I will stop now, lmao prophecies + god particle = disguised fundamentalist | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On May 29 2009 01:02 Un4Seen wrote: revolution wikipedia is not best idea to understand what the 'God particle' means only lazy low IQ people use that as only resource tool, everything I have said is accuate if you had the means to experiment and check for yourself you would be proven that it is right. Another thing you should be aware of is that the prophercys spoken are occuring now and that the last event will be arrival of a gravity wave, many scientists are becoming spiritual because evidence is mounting to the exsistance of the spirit. Perhaps if you realized there were footnotes that revealed the sources of those statements in the Wikipedia article you would be more privy to the fact that your generalizing Wikipedia users as "lazy low IQ people," is the most preposterously retarded notion since a person once contended that it is accurate to say angels are 4th dimensional beings. The grammatical structure of your sentences is also haphazard leading me to believe you are either young, uneducated, or "lazy," like Wikipedia users apparently are. However, unlike Wikipedia, you cite absolutely nothing to back up your prophecies about "gravity waves." Quit smoking crack please. By the way, to those saying that the 4th dimension is time, it is important to qualify a 4th spatial dimension is being discussed. | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
I rest my case, your honor. | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
Yeah there are bad articles, but I actually like the fact it places some responsibility on the user, rather than allowing them to blindly go around believing every single thing they read. Wikipedia is aware of its flaws, unlike a lot of media agencies or any other group the purports to give "factual" information. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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Rebel_lion
United States271 Posts
I'm probably wrong but thats what i gathered. | ||
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vincimus
United States28 Posts
EDIT : Oh and if this hasn't been posted yet... http://www.break.com/usercontent/2009/1/Imagining-The-10-Dimensions-652867.html Offers some food for thought. | ||
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baal
10535 Posts
On May 29 2009 03:56 Rebel_lion wrote: I liken the 4th dimension to watching starcraft with real units, while maintaining your perspective, + maphacks. I'm probably wrong but thats what i gathered. no lol, that is just a simple 3D aerial view, a 4D being could watch your entrails. | ||
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Un4Seen
Australia49 Posts
Now I can clearly state this people who have not understood "God" through the cycle will have trouble handling the events in the near future and this includes religions, it is the awareness and the knowledge of understanding what "God" is and our connection to it, that is the salvation that jesus spoke of not the nonsense that christians preach. I guess in your perception you still think your the only intelligent life in the universe, but have not considered trans-density dimensional travel as means of reaching your realm. Not only will you see natural disasters, but you will see ufos and creatures you think are only in hollywood you will percieve them as aliens in truth they are both extra terrestial and demonic mostly they are equal quantitys of physical and etheral exsistance some being astral forms. These coming events are necessary to awaken humanity to the greater truth of reality so the barriors which seperate the dimensions will be lifted during the alignment, this means your physical reality will be sharing same wavelengh of the astral, which like when you tune into a radio station you will be able to hear see and be part of what is going on. Human ignorance will cause many to suffer it cant be avoided many will be decieved during the great deception and many believe systems will be turned upside down, expect humanity to war with each other as well. | ||
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Un4Seen
Australia49 Posts
On May 29 2009 04:58 baal wrote: no lol, that is just a simple 3D aerial view, a 4D being could watch your entrails. Actually a being in 4th density dimension could see the possibility outcomes of the game, thust counter as game progressed call it ultimate cheating impossible to be beat by one who perception is limited to 3rd density dimension experience. | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On May 29 2009 11:45 Un4Seen wrote: All will be clear for you in a few years, lets just wait it out shall we, your about to re-think your entire perception on what reality is because once you see what a 4th density dimension experience is like, you will be forced to rethink everything you have learned. Now I can clearly state this people who have not understood "God" through the cycle will have trouble handling the events in the near future and this includes religions, it is the awareness and the knowledge of understanding what "God" is and our connection to it, that is the salvation that jesus spoke of not the nonsense that christians preach. I guess in your perception you still think your the only intelligent life in the universe, but have not considered trans-density dimensional travel as means of reaching your realm. Not only will you see natural disasters, but you will see ufos and creatures you think are only in hollywood you will percieve them as aliens in truth they are both extra terrestial and demonic mostly they are equal quantitys of physical and etheral exsistance some being astral forms. These coming events are necessary to awaken humanity to the greater truth of reality so the barriors which seperate the dimensions will be lifted during the alignment, this means your physical reality will be sharing same wavelengh of the astral, which like when you tune into a radio station you will be able to hear see and be part of what is going on. Human ignorance will cause many to suffer it cant be avoided many will be decieved during the great deception and many believe systems will be turned upside down, expect humanity to war with each other as well. Wow, I don't believe it. It's all so clear to me now!!! Thank you ! | ||
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Un4Seen
Australia49 Posts
On May 29 2009 11:53 Ancestral wrote: Wow, I don't believe it. It's all so clear to me now!!! Thank you !It is all a test, those who pass it will progress into new levels of experience which are much different and open than this one, those who fail will repeat once the process is complete expect some to be revisiting the dinosaurs. | ||
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ChoboOv
Canada126 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory Here is a really good video explaining the dimensions. | ||
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Un4Seen
Australia49 Posts
On May 29 2009 12:27 ChoboOv wrote: The 4th dimension is time. According to string theory there are 11 dimensions. None of which have anything to do with GOD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory Here is a really good video explaining the dimensions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z694S3cGCg0 Humans dont understand time, the truth of time is it is only a temporary perception and is not real it only exsists while linear progress is supported through change in form. You almost at point in your cycle were you move outside of concept time itself that shall be interesting enjoy the show. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
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Un4Seen
Australia49 Posts
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