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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8921 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-16 18:34:25
March 16 2009 18:33 GMT
#1021
On March 16 2009 21:54 Jibba wrote:
I'm curious how many CS/Q3 players they really tried to tap for this thing. Does anyone believe someone like ZeRo4 wouldn't have made it?


Given that gaming resume appears to have been one of the lesser criteria for participation, I can believe that a guy like ZeRo4 wouldn't have made it.

This is a reality show and like all reality shows it has to be populated by 'types'. You have to have 'the jock', the 'angry female', the 'cheerleader', the 'black guy', etc. etc. A show populated with only the top gamers would be a bunch of guys like IdrA sitting around playing Magic: The Gathering.

It's not like any reality show is made up of the contestants most likely to stimulate the best in competition. It's all about that calculated mix of personality types that will lead to what we're all really after: Drama. Reality shows have had the same types of people in the cast ever since The Real World hit season two. These ones just happen to play an above average amount of videogames.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 16 2009 18:54 GMT
#1022
^ Harsh lol
Peace~
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
March 16 2009 19:02 GMT
#1023
Yeah, this show is to a gaming competition like Survivor is to a survival competition, pretty much.

Everyone here knows that the correct way to identify the best gamer in the world is to identify the most difficult game (BW) and determine its best player (Bisu). That was easy.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Xenixx
Profile Joined June 2008
United States530 Posts
March 16 2009 19:05 GMT
#1024
On March 17 2009 03:33 Flaccid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2009 21:54 Jibba wrote:
I'm curious how many CS/Q3 players they really tried to tap for this thing. Does anyone believe someone like ZeRo4 wouldn't have made it?


Given that gaming resume appears to have been one of the lesser criteria for participation, I can believe that a guy like ZeRo4 wouldn't have made it.

This is a reality show and like all reality shows it has to be populated by 'types'. You have to have 'the jock', the 'angry female', the 'cheerleader', the 'black guy', etc. etc. A show populated with only the top gamers would be a bunch of guys like IdrA sitting around playing Magic: The Gathering.

It's not like any reality show is made up of the contestants most likely to stimulate the best in competition. It's all about that calculated mix of personality types that will lead to what we're all really after: Drama. Reality shows have had the same types of people in the cast ever since The Real World hit season two. These ones just happen to play an above average amount of videogames.


actually the first episode didn't lead me to believe drama was the thing they are after, though my senses implore me to reconsider, obviously its foolish that a reality show be anything but drama.

did anyone here think the first episode was dramatic? they tried i'll say that but i got a more competitive feeling
Thanos
Profile Joined March 2009
Japan4 Posts
March 16 2009 19:10 GMT
#1025
flaccid is right though. all television programs require "stock characters" which is the proper term. a regular TV show that's "30 minutes" is actually shortened to about 15 - 20 minutes due to the advertisements, credits & previews. therefore stock characters are necessary for audiences to identify personality traits instantly. the most common being: the jock, the nerd, the princess, the bad ass, the emo kid (i.e. the breakfast club). not only are stock characters used for immediacy in recognition but also with dynamics. audiences want to see what happens when you cluster a handful of diverse people. how they react, how they clash, how they relate.

i am uncertain if this applies with "WCG Ultimate Gamer" but most casting directors follow the "moneymaking" format of stock characters.
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8921 Posts
March 16 2009 19:43 GMT
#1026
On March 17 2009 04:05 Xenixx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2009 03:33 Flaccid wrote:
On March 16 2009 21:54 Jibba wrote:
I'm curious how many CS/Q3 players they really tried to tap for this thing. Does anyone believe someone like ZeRo4 wouldn't have made it?


Given that gaming resume appears to have been one of the lesser criteria for participation, I can believe that a guy like ZeRo4 wouldn't have made it.

This is a reality show and like all reality shows it has to be populated by 'types'. You have to have 'the jock', the 'angry female', the 'cheerleader', the 'black guy', etc. etc. A show populated with only the top gamers would be a bunch of guys like IdrA sitting around playing Magic: The Gathering.

It's not like any reality show is made up of the contestants most likely to stimulate the best in competition. It's all about that calculated mix of personality types that will lead to what we're all really after: Drama. Reality shows have had the same types of people in the cast ever since The Real World hit season two. These ones just happen to play an above average amount of videogames.


actually the first episode didn't lead me to believe drama was the thing they are after, though my senses implore me to reconsider, obviously its foolish that a reality show be anything but drama.

did anyone here think the first episode was dramatic? they tried i'll say that but i got a more competitive feeling


You're definately right that the first episode didn't have a lot of 'house drama'. But as the number of competitors drops off and less pointless exposition is necessary, I'm sure we'll start to see some wonderfully forced subplots and side-stories.

I'm wondering whether people hardcore enough over a 10-year-old game to be posting on TL.net are really the target demographic for this show. Then again, we'll all watch because iNc is on it. But if he wasn't, how many of us would have any interest in the show?
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 16 2009 19:55 GMT
#1027
On March 17 2009 04:43 Flaccid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2009 04:05 Xenixx wrote:
On March 17 2009 03:33 Flaccid wrote:
On March 16 2009 21:54 Jibba wrote:
I'm curious how many CS/Q3 players they really tried to tap for this thing. Does anyone believe someone like ZeRo4 wouldn't have made it?


Given that gaming resume appears to have been one of the lesser criteria for participation, I can believe that a guy like ZeRo4 wouldn't have made it.

This is a reality show and like all reality shows it has to be populated by 'types'. You have to have 'the jock', the 'angry female', the 'cheerleader', the 'black guy', etc. etc. A show populated with only the top gamers would be a bunch of guys like IdrA sitting around playing Magic: The Gathering.

It's not like any reality show is made up of the contestants most likely to stimulate the best in competition. It's all about that calculated mix of personality types that will lead to what we're all really after: Drama. Reality shows have had the same types of people in the cast ever since The Real World hit season two. These ones just happen to play an above average amount of videogames.


actually the first episode didn't lead me to believe drama was the thing they are after, though my senses implore me to reconsider, obviously its foolish that a reality show be anything but drama.

did anyone here think the first episode was dramatic? they tried i'll say that but i got a more competitive feeling


You're definately right that the first episode didn't have a lot of 'house drama'. But as the number of competitors drops off and less pointless exposition is necessary, I'm sure we'll start to see some wonderfully forced subplots and side-stories.

I'm wondering whether people hardcore enough over a 10-year-old game to be posting on TL.net are really the target demographic for this show. Then again, we'll all watch because iNc is on it. But if he wasn't, how many of us would have any interest in the show?

I have to watch Boys Before Flowers with my girlfriend and had to watch Laguna Beach/The Hills with my ex so there is nothing I wouldn't watch anymore -_-

Closer to the topic at hand, most shows like to have that building drama concept, where small annoyances and comments grow and fester into huge bitchfights later on. The growing sensation of the conflict hooks the viewers into seeing the next episode, being all like "OMGZ IT IS GUNA HAPPN NAO DEFNTLEE!!!1!1" Having drama in the first episode between supposed strangers (mostly) would be too much, even for American audiences. At least in this premise (gaming), anyways.
Peace~
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
March 16 2009 20:13 GMT
#1028
On March 12 2009 17:39 Roxen000 wrote:
Ah, I just watched the first ep. As people have said, this is insanely cheesy but I will keep watching as long as inc is involved.

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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
March 16 2009 20:18 GMT
#1029
On March 17 2009 04:43 Flaccid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2009 04:05 Xenixx wrote:
On March 17 2009 03:33 Flaccid wrote:
On March 16 2009 21:54 Jibba wrote:
I'm curious how many CS/Q3 players they really tried to tap for this thing. Does anyone believe someone like ZeRo4 wouldn't have made it?


Given that gaming resume appears to have been one of the lesser criteria for participation, I can believe that a guy like ZeRo4 wouldn't have made it.

This is a reality show and like all reality shows it has to be populated by 'types'. You have to have 'the jock', the 'angry female', the 'cheerleader', the 'black guy', etc. etc. A show populated with only the top gamers would be a bunch of guys like IdrA sitting around playing Magic: The Gathering.

It's not like any reality show is made up of the contestants most likely to stimulate the best in competition. It's all about that calculated mix of personality types that will lead to what we're all really after: Drama. Reality shows have had the same types of people in the cast ever since The Real World hit season two. These ones just happen to play an above average amount of videogames.


actually the first episode didn't lead me to believe drama was the thing they are after, though my senses implore me to reconsider, obviously its foolish that a reality show be anything but drama.

did anyone here think the first episode was dramatic? they tried i'll say that but i got a more competitive feeling


You're definately right that the first episode didn't have a lot of 'house drama'. But as the number of competitors drops off and less pointless exposition is necessary, I'm sure we'll start to see some wonderfully forced subplots and side-stories.

I'm wondering whether people hardcore enough over a 10-year-old game to be posting on TL.net are really the target demographic for this show. Then again, we'll all watch because iNc is on it. But if he wasn't, how many of us would have any interest in the show?

I wouldn't give two shits about this show if iNc wasn't in it. Honestly, I still only give one shit.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3397 Posts
March 16 2009 20:29 GMT
#1030
On March 17 2009 05:13 KizZBG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2009 17:39 Roxen000 wrote:
Ah, I just watched the first ep. As people have said, this is insanely cheesy but I will keep watching as long as inc is involved.


김택용 Fighting!
PIJAMA
Profile Joined February 2009
Brazil137 Posts
March 16 2009 21:15 GMT
#1031
On March 17 2009 04:02 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Yeah, this show is to a gaming competition like Survivor is to a survival competition, pretty much.

Everyone here knows that the correct way to identify the best gamer in the world is to identify the most difficult game (BW) and determine its best player (Bisu). That was easy.


i remember that sometime ago (dont know exactly when) there was a competition to find out who was the best gamer in the world... boxer and heaton (from cs) and some other players were playing and boxer won at the end... does someone remember this and know how it worked?
LeperKahn
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Romania1852 Posts
March 16 2009 21:22 GMT
#1032
Same time, same place this week?
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 16 2009 21:38 GMT
#1033
yes!

better episode
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
March 16 2009 21:52 GMT
#1034
You've been far too smiley lately. I fear you may just have a bad poker face.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
violett
Profile Joined July 2007
Germany143 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-16 22:26:41
March 16 2009 22:25 GMT
#1035
On March 17 2009 03:14 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Does anyone know if your interveiwed fatal1ty for this? Maybe he was just too damn boring a person to get on, but seeing as he the most famous non asian gamer. I'm supprised he not on it.


maybe the 100k price isnt worth enough
Xenixx
Profile Joined June 2008
United States530 Posts
March 16 2009 22:32 GMT
#1036
thats true fatal1ty's gotta be measured over 100k for appearances
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
March 16 2009 22:53 GMT
#1037
Do they generally show drama in chronological order of when it happened? Since they undoubtedly have tons of footage, they probably have the power to create the viewer's perception of drama by misusing context.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 16 2009 23:00 GMT
#1038
That's basically what reality tv is, creating plot based on manipulation of context.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4939 Posts
March 16 2009 23:02 GMT
#1039
On March 17 2009 07:53 CDRdude wrote:
Do they generally show drama in chronological order of when it happened? Since they undoubtedly have tons of footage, they probably have the power to create the viewer's perception of drama by misusing context.


I'm pretty sure iNc's contract doesn't allow him to talk about that either. But what you say isn't too far-fetched, according to my really limited reality show experiences.
Complete the cycle!
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
March 16 2009 23:34 GMT
#1040
On March 17 2009 08:00 zulu_nation8 wrote:
That's basically what reality tv is, creating plot based on manipulation of context.


This bears repeating. I'm sure most ppl know this, but you would be surprised how often people don't realize it.
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