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NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.
spets1
Profile Joined November 2009
102 Posts
5 hours ago
#17601
It's funny how it's said here,
"We've debunked this and we debunk that"
When all you've done is stated your opinion and think that it's fact. No all you've done is shared your opinion, interpretation of the situation and you state it as fact and then the others that have the same propaganda ingrained into your brains parrot the same opinions which serves as your confirmation.
So when you do that, ie state your opinion as fact there is no point in me trying to explain other points of views and interpretations
You were wrong before, what makes you think you're right now
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5664 Posts
4 hours ago
#17602
On November 20 2025 07:15 spets1 wrote:
It's funny how it's said here,
"We've debunked this and we debunk that"
When all you've done is stated your opinion and think that it's fact. No all you've done is shared your opinion, interpretation of the situation and you state it as fact and then the others that have the same propaganda ingrained into your brains parrot the same opinions which serves as your confirmation.
So when you do that, ie state your opinion as fact there is no point in me trying to explain other points of views and interpretations

Tell me how these are opinions and not facts.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12359 Posts
4 hours ago
#17603
On November 20 2025 07:15 spets1 wrote:
It's funny how it's said here,
"We've debunked this and we debunk that"
When all you've done is stated your opinion and think that it's fact. No all you've done is shared your opinion, interpretation of the situation and you state it as fact and then the others that have the same propaganda ingrained into your brains parrot the same opinions which serves as your confirmation.
So when you do that, ie state your opinion as fact there is no point in me trying to explain other points of views and interpretations


You said that Mearsheimer was right about everything since 2014. They quoted you a bunch of things in his analysis that didn't happen the way he said. Those are not opinions I believe? Either they're right or you are. Based on everything I know about the world, it's probably them who are right. Obviously you've never watched Mearsheimer yourself, but you might want to question the source that you read that told you that he had predicted everything correctly since 2014. Clearly that source has been lying to you.
No will to live, no wish to die
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43258 Posts
4 hours ago
#17604
On November 20 2025 07:15 spets1 wrote:
It's funny how it's said here,
"We've debunked this and we debunk that"
When all you've done is stated your opinion and think that it's fact. No all you've done is shared your opinion, interpretation of the situation and you state it as fact and then the others that have the same propaganda ingrained into your brains parrot the same opinions which serves as your confirmation.
So when you do that, ie state your opinion as fact there is no point in me trying to explain other points of views and interpretations

It’s like the idea of lacking self awareness wished it could be a real boy.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4585 Posts
3 hours ago
#17605
The US politics landscape is changing fast, and it's unlikely that US will try pressuring Ukraine out of the war. Some dominoes will start falling. We can see some republicans starting to call Trump a Russian asset (out of those that were hardcore Trump fanatics), which in turn will bring back the US as an anti-Russia country. Russia just forgot how much Americans have been raised during the cold war as the Russian bad guy stereotype.

Black mailed Trump was a very likely situation that would explain a lot of US-Russia negotiation. While being blackmailed, it was also important to stay in a position where he could destroy Russia's leadership if he'd be compromised. This power dynamic is collapsing.

No idea how this affects the war. Russia is worse than it was a year ago, and it's getting worse everyday. We are not anymore in a slowly boiling frog situation we described in this thread a year ago. We are now in "I live in Moscow and I can see stuff exploding out of my window", which was not the case for the first 3 years.

At the same time, Ukraine seems to have adapted much better also at stopping drone waves. Russia has pretty much exhausted their stock of missiles, being able to only launch what they produce. They also seem to lack meaningful targets.

Current Ukrainian drone attacks are just noise, and the real big strike will happen at once at the worst moment, classical Art of War move style. Russian will be like "is that all you can do"... Then it's whoopsie because they used the new tactic which Russia has failed to predict. This pattern is a strong positive pattern that is emerging from the noise.
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17441 Posts
18 minutes ago
#17606
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/19/us-and-russian-officials-draft-new-peace-plan-based-on-capitulation-from-ukraine

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/19/new-us-peace-plan-for-ukraine-involves-kyiv-ceding-land-weapons-reports

From 2 different sources. The supposed 28 plan cooked up by US and RU together that would make Ukraine basically surrender to Russia. I don't think UA would ever agree to this since this entire "peace plan" is pure bullshit.
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