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Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
888 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-17 20:31:53
June 17 2025 20:31 GMT
#16481
On June 18 2025 04:51 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2025 02:59 Billyboy wrote:
This agreement sure did not age well.

https://www.reuters.com/world/iranian-president-arrives-moscow-treaty-signing-with-putin-tass-says-2025-01-17/


Can't wait to see these two countries with failing militaries somehow defend each other against superior enemies in each of their own conflicts that they themselves started.

Its a bold strategy cotton, lets see how it works out.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8038 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-18 18:15:19
June 18 2025 18:14 GMT
#16482
Orange cheeto actually said something reasonable for once..
https://www.barrons.com/news/trump-tells-putin-to-end-ukraine-war-before-mediating-iran-israel-d14475c0

I wonder what Putin did behind the scenes. Trump seems to have had a less than stellar relationship with him this last month
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
888 Posts
June 18 2025 18:15 GMT
#16483
On June 19 2025 03:14 Excludos wrote:
Orange cheeto actually said something reasonable for once..
https://www.barrons.com/news/trump-tells-putin-to-end-ukraine-war-before-mediating-iran-israel-d14475c0

I wonder what Putin did behind the scenes. Trump seems to have had a less than stellar relationship with him this last month

Who ever talked to Trump last before he said that is someone we need around Trump more.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1322 Posts
June 18 2025 19:53 GMT
#16484
On June 19 2025 03:14 Excludos wrote:
Orange cheeto actually said something reasonable for once..
https://www.barrons.com/news/trump-tells-putin-to-end-ukraine-war-before-mediating-iran-israel-d14475c0

I wonder what Putin did behind the scenes. Trump seems to have had a less than stellar relationship with him this last month


Trump is still downsizing aid to Ukraine and quietly removing sanctions against key Putin allies.
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Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2084 Posts
June 21 2025 09:33 GMT
#16485
It’s been all political theater and maximum demands from Russia’s side ever since peace talks was started while they were dancing around Trump to keep him satisfied with the illusion of any kind of progress towards peace.
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5536 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-21 11:06:33
June 21 2025 11:06 GMT
#16486
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/ukraine-is-ours-putin-tells-deleages-at-spief/ar-AA1H9fHN

Putin repeated that he considered Russians and Ukrainians to be “one people” and 'in that sense the whole of Ukraine is ours'...

'We have a saying, or a parable,' Putin said during the plenary panel session. 'Where the foot of a Russian soldier steps, that is ours.'

You'd hope our local peacemongers would take note when Putin himself makes such admissions.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia512 Posts
June 21 2025 12:07 GMT
#16487
Hah, adorable, people admitting they fell for propaganda never happens, unfortunately.

It's very depressing, Iran news have pushed Ukraine to the side and now Trump can just stop aid and let Putin do whatever he wants with an excuse how they are too busy and engaged over there.

We can only hope that Europe stops being indecisive and shitty and actually refocuses efforts on our backyard while ignoring the shitshow that Israel started but I have a sinking feeling they are all aboard the war against Iran train and it will have catastrophic consequences for Europe.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3311 Posts
June 21 2025 16:06 GMT
#16488
On June 21 2025 21:07 Jankisa wrote:
We can only hope that Europe stops being indecisive and shitty and actually refocuses efforts on our backyard while ignoring the shitshow that Israel started but I have a sinking feeling they are all aboard the war against Iran train and it will have catastrophic consequences for Europe.

'Catastrophic' might be a little overdramatic.
The worst that might hit Europe is more migration waves and maybe a short oil price shock.
Unlike US, EU will suffer no image or reputation loss in the Iranian mess.


Xophy
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany79 Posts
June 21 2025 16:36 GMT
#16489
On June 22 2025 01:06 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2025 21:07 Jankisa wrote:
We can only hope that Europe stops being indecisive and shitty and actually refocuses efforts on our backyard while ignoring the shitshow that Israel started but I have a sinking feeling they are all aboard the war against Iran train and it will have catastrophic consequences for Europe.

'Catastrophic' might be a little overdramatic.
The worst that might hit Europe is more migration waves and maybe a short oil price shock.
Unlike US, EU will suffer no image or reputation loss in the Iranian mess.




I guess Jankisa means it will be catastrophic for Europe to ignore the Ukrainian war ...
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia512 Posts
June 22 2025 12:42 GMT
#16490
Both that and to keep praising Trump and Nethyanahu for escalating in the middle east.

The huge wave of terrorist attacks, the immigration wave that caused a huge shift in European politics towards right wing parties, all of these were the consequences of the last time US was joined by European countries. There were huge terrorist attacks in 2 of those countries (Madrid and London) and a swath of follow up terrorism over the next 15 years all across Europe.

I don't know about you guys, but that is the only period that I honestly felt unsafe when visiting large European cities and I really, really don't want to go back to that because of Trump and Nethyanahu.

The other consequence of these actions being used to justify that "might makes right" only emboldens guys like Putin and the consequences of that will also be felt all across the world.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
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