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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23837 Posts
On August 24 2023 06:57 0x64 wrote: I like that perfect moment when all the lunatics can't say shit in this thread because their propaganda tell them what to say :D I especially like the part where they all say variants of the exact same thing in a thread full of divergent and personal takes (of varying quality) and say everyone else is regurgitating propaganda | ||
captainwaffles
United States1050 Posts
On August 24 2023 09:36 JimmiC wrote: What is everyone’s guess Poll: The plane crash was Putin ordered assassination (30) JFK has been alive this whole time and did it with elvis (7) Equipment malfunction (2) Faked death (2) Ukrainian assassin (2) 43 total votes Your vote: The plane crash was (Vote): Equipment malfunction Could have been a lot of different people, we know there's a ton of ISIS and Al-Qaeda affiliates that were fighting against Wagner in Africa, could have them, could have been CIA, it could have been Putin or someone(s) high up in the Russian government/military. We may never know tbh. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On August 24 2023 06:37 KwarK wrote: Turtles don’t win races with hares. That’s something turtles tell themselves to feel better while the hares are out there fucking all the hot lady turtles. Hares are much faster. You can check. What? | ||
Falling
Canada11278 Posts
On August 24 2023 11:55 captainwaffles wrote: Could have been a lot of different people, we know there's a ton of ISIS and Al-Qaeda affiliates that were fighting against Wagner in Africa, could have them, could have been CIA, it could have been Putin or someone(s) high up in the Russian government/military. We may never know tbh. Or Canada might have put a hit out on him. Or even my local Hell's Angels chapter. The options are endless! . . . or, you know. Just go with the shoe that fits, timing and all: it could have been Putin or someone(s) high up in the Russian government/military. This is a distinction without a difference and you know it. It does not have to have Putin literally put out the order on the APB. It's the old Henry II "Will no-one rid me of this meddlesome priest?" And all the king's men understand 'rid me of' means someone has to ride off and kill Thomas Beckett. There's an old Mitchell & Webb sketch on supervillains... | ||
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0x64
Finland4519 Posts
They say the plane switch off it's transponder and was misidentified by air defense as a Ukrainian drone. That was because a drone strike was ongoing at the same time. Try our not, you can only admirer three commitment of Russian officials. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4692 Posts
I mean, You can make case for this being an accident (althought thats a stretch) but terrorists? CIA? WTF? | ||
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zeo
Serbia6267 Posts
All of this plays into the hands of Western propaganda, which already had premade articles claiming that this was the work of the state, and that then means that the state is evil. As soon as it does not have the personnel to solve the problem through the institutions, but the problems are solved by the methods of a criminal gang bla bla bla. After the international terrorist act on Nord Stream 2, then the murder of Dugina, then the murder of that journalist in Peterburg, the murder of 5 civilians on the bridge when their truck exploded, the attempted murder of Prilepin (the driver was killed) and the large number of murders/assasinations of people from the local authorities in Zaporozhye, Kupyansk, Donetsk, civilians in the city of Kherson, and the murder of the leaper of the DNR, then the murder of Motorola, Givi, the indiscriminate constant shelling of civilians, shooting of prisoners and the bombing of dams. Following it all from 2013 its difficult to remember all of the terrorist attacks, heinous and senseless executions by the Ukrainian regime and its neo-Nazi gangs under the umbrella of its mentors. Its an afront to the intelligance of everybody here to argue who deals with their opponents in these ways. Russia (as well as the US) kill people by them commiting suicide or getting lost while going on a hiking trip alone. Lets be real here. Time will pass, and a "hero" will appear who will also boast about commiting this crime... Wait and see guys... None of this can take away from the monumental feats accomplished by Wagner since the beginning of the conflict, they couldnt touch him on the battlefield so they went back to the only thing they know how to do. The damage Wagner inflicted on the Kiev regime and its helpers was already done. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9104 Posts
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justanothertownie
16316 Posts
On August 24 2023 16:23 zeo wrote: The top of the Russian state had no reason to kill Prigozhin and the leadership of Wagner. First sentence and you are already in crazy land. Of course there is - Prigozhin openly challenged Putin and made him look weak. That is something a dictator cannot allow to go unpunished under any circumstances. There is a reason everyone with a brain was predicting this. | ||
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0x64
Finland4519 Posts
On August 24 2023 16:23 zeo wrote: The top of the Russian state had no reason to kill Prigozhin and the leadership of Wagner. Wagner has been disarmed, its numbers have been reduced, they are stationed in Belarus and even their instructors are training the regular Belarusian army. Everything that the parties agreed upon (which is publicly known) has been respected. For two months, there were no problems between Wagner and Shoigu or Gerasimov. Now, they may have failed to comply with something that is not known to the general public but who knows. All of this plays into the hands of Western propaganda, which already had premade articles claiming that this was the work of the state, and that then means that the state is evil. As soon as it does not have the personnel to solve the problem through the institutions, but the problems are solved by the methods of a criminal gang bla bla bla. After the international terrorist act on Nord Stream 2, then the murder of Dugina, then the murder of that journalist in Peterburg, the murder of 5 civilians on the bridge when their truck exploded, the attempted murder of Prilepin (the driver was killed) and the large number of murders/assasinations of people from the local authorities in Zaporozhye, Kupyansk, Donetsk, civilians in the city of Kherson, and the murder of the leaper of the DNR, then the murder of Motorola, Givi, the indiscriminate constant shelling of civilians, shooting of prisoners and the bombing of dams. Following it all from 2013 its difficult to remember all of the terrorist attacks, heinous and senseless executions by the Ukrainian regime and its neo-Nazi gangs under the umbrella of its mentors. Its an afront to the intelligance of everybody here to argue who deals with their opponents in these ways. Russia (as well as the US) kill people by them commiting suicide or getting lost while going on a hiking trip alone. Lets be real here. Time will pass, and a "hero" will appear who will also boast about commiting this crime... Wait and see guys... None of this can take away from the monumental feats accomplished by Wagner since the beginning of the conflict, they couldnt touch him on the battlefield so they went back to the only thing they know how to do. The damage Wagner inflicted on the Kiev regime and its helpers was already done. Let me tell you about passing a message. If you are a traitor, you will get blown in the most obvious way that still has credible deniability. Don't try to undermine this masterpiece. I was an sad accident. May he rest in piece. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10600 Posts
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SamuelGreen
Sweden292 Posts
On August 24 2023 16:23 zeo wrote: The top of the Russian state had no reason to kill Prigozhin and the leadership of Wagner. Ahhh, I see that the email with the propaganda talking points have come! First I was going to say that they become more and more delusional but then I realized no, it's probably on the same level. | ||
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0x64
Finland4519 Posts
2. It's the Ukrainian's for launching drones in that area. 3. It's the air defense operator's fault for misidentifying the target as enemy drone. Well done. 10/10. Flying his jet is Prigo's version of a "hike". He is (was) surrounded by elite soldiers 24/7 | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria3709 Posts
And I'm a chicken. Cluck, cluck. | ||
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r00ty
Germany1037 Posts
I just hope the war criminal is really dead. Don't care who did it, doesn't matter for the war in Ukraine anyway. He deserves it for what was done by Wagner in Syria and Africa. Rot in hell fascist pig. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23837 Posts
I’m going to assume cakeday celebrations went a bit late. I’m not sure if lady turtles prefer hares in the bedroom though. Slow and steady wins the race and all that. On August 24 2023 16:50 0x64 wrote: Let me tell you about passing a message. If you are a traitor, you will get blown in the most obvious way that still has credible deniability. Don't try to undermine this masterpiece. I was an sad accident. May he rest in piece. I know Putin’s public image does occasionally stray into homoerotic territory but I’m pretty sure that’s not how he generally deals with disloyalty. | ||
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aseq
Netherlands3969 Posts
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0x64
Finland4519 Posts
On August 24 2023 17:28 WombaT wrote: I’m going to assume cakeday celebrations went a bit late. I’m not sure if lady turtles prefer hares in the bedroom though. Slow and steady wins the race and all that. I know Putin’s public image does occasionally stray into homoerotic territory but I’m pretty sure that’s not how he generally deals with disloyalty. Yup, he does not ever get his hand dirty. It's known way of working. You say this guy is not anymore in my good books, and then it is up to various competing entity to interpret what he means by what he said and try to make him happy. It gets shit done. Do you think if he ordered Navalny dead, that Navalny would still be alive? | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria3709 Posts
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