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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 04 2020 00:41 GMT
#501
On November 04 2020 09:37 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:34 LegalLord wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:30 Mohdoo wrote:
Definitely think Florida is going to Trump. Just a matter of if other states can get Biden what he needs. Tense!

Honestly if Biden can't take Florida I don't have high hopes for him winning overall. At best, barely eking out a win.


I'd have to check but I dont know the last time a president won Ohio and Florida and lost.

For at least "lost Florida but won election" we have:

Bill Clinton, 1992

followed by JFK, 1960.

Source

Still winnable without Florida, but it puts a big hole in the Biden narrative.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4951 Posts
November 04 2020 00:42 GMT
#502
On November 04 2020 09:39 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:35 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
83% of Broward in, Biden 66.3%, Trump 33%
2016 66.5% Clinton / 31.4% Trump
Trump should carry based on panhandle

From the radio I was listening too Florida has the early votes come in first and then the in person come in later. So Trump will likely.do better as time passes.


That's how it is normally yes, just to back up what you heard lol.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
November 04 2020 00:42 GMT
#503
Also some commentary saying that Biden's gains with white voters compared to Clinton may buffer him against his losses with Latinos in Florida.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4951 Posts
November 04 2020 00:42 GMT
#504
On November 04 2020 09:41 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:37 Introvert wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:34 LegalLord wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:30 Mohdoo wrote:
Definitely think Florida is going to Trump. Just a matter of if other states can get Biden what he needs. Tense!

Honestly if Biden can't take Florida I don't have high hopes for him winning overall. At best, barely eking out a win.


I'd have to check but I dont know the last time a president won Ohio and Florida and lost.

For at least "lost Florida but won election" we have:

Bill Clinton, 1992

followed by JFK, 1960.

Source

Still winnable without Florida, but it puts a big hole in the Biden narrative.



I was very particularly taking about Flordia AND Ohio, but yes.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
November 04 2020 00:42 GMT
#505
Clinton lost the so far uncounted Panhandle part by about 220k votes from my count. Based on the lead Biden has right now it wouldn't be enough, so he'll have to have made some significant inroads there.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45861 Posts
November 04 2020 00:43 GMT
#506
On November 04 2020 09:40 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I actually care more about the senate race than the presidential atm, but slow reporting on that. Suburban Cook County is open another hour due to relocation of polling places. I voted (took 5 minutes) and there was no one there. Literally all workers when I walked in.


As far as the Senate races go, I'll probably just look them all up tomorrow or something lol
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-04 00:46:38
November 04 2020 00:43 GMT
#507
Biden up by 1.6% in Florida with 77% in.

That's about 160k votes at the moment.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 04 2020 00:43 GMT
#508
On November 04 2020 09:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Clinton lost the so far uncounted Panhandle part by about 220k votes from my count. Based on the lead Biden has right now it wouldn't be enough, so he'll have to have made some significant inroads there.

If it's true that mail-in ballots are being counted first, Trump may also gain in the counties that are already mostly reporting.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 04 2020 00:43 GMT
#509
On November 04 2020 09:42 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:41 LegalLord wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:37 Introvert wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:34 LegalLord wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:30 Mohdoo wrote:
Definitely think Florida is going to Trump. Just a matter of if other states can get Biden what he needs. Tense!

Honestly if Biden can't take Florida I don't have high hopes for him winning overall. At best, barely eking out a win.


I'd have to check but I dont know the last time a president won Ohio and Florida and lost.

For at least "lost Florida but won election" we have:

Bill Clinton, 1992

followed by JFK, 1960.

Source

Still winnable without Florida, but it puts a big hole in the Biden narrative.



I was very particularly taking about Flordia AND Ohio, but yes.

Well the answer there is JFK, incidentally.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
November 04 2020 00:45 GMT
#510
The Peruvian side of my family, who immigrated here about 20 years ago, mostly support Trump. If there's one thing "Hispanics" can agree on, its that Mexico sucks, sadly. A lot of Hispanic countries want to join the "White" club and specifically targeting Mexicans with racism is an easy way to gain contrast.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
November 04 2020 00:45 GMT
#511
On November 04 2020 09:43 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Clinton lost the so far uncounted Panhandle part by about 220k votes from my count. Based on the lead Biden has right now it wouldn't be enough, so he'll have to have made some significant inroads there.

If it's true that mail-in ballots are being counted first, Trump may also gain in the counties that are already mostly reporting.

I believe this is indeed true, I'd much rather be Trump than Biden if it was a Florida-only race.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 04 2020 00:45 GMT
#512
The Ohio thing is "no republican has ever won the white house without winning Ohio", iirc.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10398 Posts
November 04 2020 00:45 GMT
#513
On November 04 2020 09:43 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Biden up by 1.7% in Florida with 77% in.

That's about 160k votes at the moment.

If Clinton lost the panhandle by 220k, this is where we'll see if that Indiana rural vote I was referring to earlier will make any difference. I don't expect it to in Florida, the demographics are definitely not the same. Biden has not gotten enough of a swing in the other southern Florida counties to make up for his abysmal showing in Miami-Dade.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
November 04 2020 00:46 GMT
#514
On November 04 2020 09:45 Mohdoo wrote:
The Peruvian side of my family, who immigrated here about 20 years ago, mostly support Trump. If there's one thing "Hispanics" can agree on, its that Mexico sucks, sadly. A lot of Hispanic countries want to join the "White" club and specifically targeting Mexicans with racism is an easy way to gain contrast.

That's some sad shit to read and unfortunately it's very true
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Poland9298 Posts
November 04 2020 00:46 GMT
#515
I recommend keeping this open in another tab so you can easily compare 2020 and 2016 results.

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/president
You're now breathing manually
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10398 Posts
November 04 2020 00:47 GMT
#516
St. Lucie County in 2016: Trump won 49.5-47.1. Currently with 80% reporting: 52.2-47.2 for Biden. Another county flipped, but will it be enough?
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4951 Posts
November 04 2020 00:47 GMT
#517
On November 04 2020 09:45 Nevuk wrote:
The Ohio thing is "no republican has ever won the white house without winning Ohio", iirc.


it's both that and I think no incumbent has lost the election. winning both Flordia and Ohio. could be wrong, not a problem.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 04 2020 00:47 GMT
#518
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
November 04 2020 00:47 GMT
#519
Pinellas is dead even with 90% reported
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 04 2020 00:48 GMT
#520
NYT is saying >95% of Trump win in FL with their needle.
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