EPTRacial Slurs and Video Games - Page 8
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Odowan Paleolithic
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pinky29
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On September 26 2020 12:49 Seeker wrote: I knew I recognized this guy's ID. He's the author of this thread: https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/559447-when-bm-goes-too-far Aren't these two threads virtually the same in concept? And the OP himself requested that his thread be closed with this comment: https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/559447-when-bm-goes-too-far?page=2#26 @pinky29: What exactly are you trying to accomplish with these threads? What is the end goal? First off, it's not like I spam TL...I probably make 1 post every few months. I've been around since 2000; I couldn't remember my PW so I used my steam account. So if you're basing this off my membership length, please don't. Second, if you are equating BM to someone saying the N-word I think there is a problem. This is an observation after 20 years of gaming on racial slurs becoming more prominent in all sorts of games (including sc2). In case you didn't see my comments about 3 posts above yours...I guess my end goal is edification... Several people have mentioned this same point about the language filter; even NoNy replied with a very articulate post surrounding blocking chat altogether. However, my OP intentions were not to become an SJW and protest this kind of abusive chat (even though I, and many others, clearly abhor these comments) - I KNOW I can block them. My intentions where to call out the increased and pervasive use of these kinds of racially charged words in video games and understand from empirical standpoint why there is an observable increase in this type of language. I don't believe the world has become more divided over centuries; in fact, I feel the US, over decades, have become more of a melting pot where race should become less of an issue. I have a brother in an interracial marriage along with many friends. I think the media takes a large role in sensationalizing the use of any derogatory words towards a single race, class, sex, ethnicity etc. My hypothesis, based on the poll and my own belief, is there are some toxic gamers that thrive off that sensationalism. I don't believe this world is becoming more divisive and racist; I think it is something perpetuated by the media and shoved down our throats to the point it emerges in our everyday life. But maybe I'm just a half glass full guy... EDIT: And no this is not for some sort of study. I'm authentically interested in the topic. Feel free to close the thread if it detracts from the focus of this site; however, it is clear the community has already injected different "vibrant" opinions. Thank you. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36957 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Anyways, I think it bears repeating: there is a mature language filter automatically on in SC2, at least back in WoL, though I suspect many turned it off and forgot it ever existed judging from this thread. The OP turned the filter off, just so he could make this thread. That is beyond ridiculous. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16642 Posts
On September 24 2020 18:30 pinky29 wrote: I'm 38 with 2 kids (one of which is pre-teen at 11). I only mention my age because I've played SC a very long time and I see some opponents using very inflammatory words outside the typical "go kill yourself". On September 26 2020 22:44 pinky29 wrote: First off, it's not like I spam TL...I probably make 1 post every few months. I've been around since 2000; I couldn't remember my PW so I used my steam account. So if you're basing this off my membership length, please don't. Second, if you are equating BM to someone saying the N-word I think there is a problem. This is an observation after 20 years of gaming on racial slurs becoming more prominent in all sorts of games (including sc2). I think this is more about anonymity than video game playing. According to my dad and his 4 brothers, and almost everyone else I've talked to over 50 .... 80s video game arcades featured almost zero racial slurs. In fact, the slightest bit of mouthing off and you best be prepared for a vicious scrap in the parking lot. Kick out the power chord when some guy was on his way to breaking a long standing high score.. and it was rumble time. During that era high scores were serious business for a reasonable percentage of the players. To wit.. EDIT: i socialize with the guy who owns the best internet cafe in Toronto. His family owned and ran an 80s video game arcade on the busiest street in toronto. He noticed very little racial slurs. In conclusion, I'd say this is mostly about the paradigms created by anonymous communication platforms rather than about video game playing. | ||
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kaykoose
United States2302 Posts
On September 26 2020 19:34 Arceus wrote: I get where you come from but not everything is "hate speech" where I live. Those can be considered "boys banter", or "toilet chat", or trashtalk in general. I don't recommend it cuz I'm 30 now but I find it normal if my kid does it in-game. Play games, get competitive, rage, vent, have fun etc. It's the same as getting in a fight in classes, do stupid stuff and learn things. And I sure as hell will teach my children to not be offended by everything single word in the dictionary. Agreed, it's not all hate speech, I just singled that part out. I guess I'm drawing the line at hate speech because I think competitive banter and trash talk is different. Still I wouldn't call it essential to gaming though. | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
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nichan
United States158 Posts
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sickStrings
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It seems strange to me that the staunchest defenders of this relatively new, woke ideology have no qualms about enforcing American norms and mores on the rest of the world. Case in point, the streamer who used the Voldemort word on stream. He used it AS a slur, so that's a point against him (rather than, say, someone reading a passage of Huckleberry Finn or singing along to a Kanye song). But then you realise he didn't use it to attack a member of the race the word is descriptive of, and apparently he is Swedish, so he doesn't carry the cultural burden that word would carry if an American had used it. Yet, with no hint of irony, the wokest of the woke insist that he be defenestrated, and that he be judged by American standards. So I'm curious, do the same Americans who make sure to condemn the use of words that are most culturally insensitive in their culture take pains to make sure that they don't use words that are insensitive in other cultures? Because I've definitely noticed that they use the slur "gipsies" with reckless abandon, and Roma in my country went through the kind of hell that makes American slavery look like a slightly unpleasant trip to the DMV. User was banned for this post. | ||
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Qeser
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Ferased
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vesaqwer
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boldon
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gujkel
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