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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On March 27 2020 22:33 JimmiC wrote: Boris Johnson has been tested and has the corona virus. He is self isolating and at lest so far his symptoms are mild. I think more and more leaders are going to get it as many are still interacting with lots of people. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/british-prime-minister-johnson-tests-positive-for-virus/ar-BB11MSTm?li=AAggNb9 Thats what all the last posts here have been about... | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2898 Posts
As many of you know Sweden has taken a quite different path from many other countries and from my short walk it's most certainly NOT shut down. At all. So this week, and the two weeks coming will be very "interesting". The die has been cast so to speak but it hasn't landed yet. I have absolute trust that our experts and government is doing what they think is best but no one knows for sure what is the right path. So either it will work out fine (and that means we don't get overwhelmed and have a somewhat comparable death toll to our neighbors when it's all over) or it doesn't. This week was better than expected and precautions are being taken but... It really feels like the calm before the storm right now. | ||
KwarK
United States44379 Posts
On March 27 2020 20:34 Firebolt145 wrote: Well Boris Johnson now has covid. Not surprising. Literally according to his herd immunity plan. Getting those antibodies. I’m glad his plan is working out so well for him. | ||
zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
On March 28 2020 00:32 KwarK wrote: Literally according to his herd immunity plan. Getting those antibodies. I’m glad his plan is working out so well for him. Yeah, leading by example. Good for him! | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
One infant in the daycare tested positive, but the family hasn't been present since the 13th. The daycare closed totally yesterday, as they would've had to redo enrollment to run as a trauma center. My wife is furloughed - her employer is still paying for healthcare (doesn't matter much to her as she could be my insurance easily). So currently she's babysitting for the children of a respiratory specialist, and thinks she's much more likely to get coronavirus from that. We're both relatively healthy and accepting of the risks, though. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
No dead yet where I worked at least. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/ 5909 new cases and 919 new deaths in Italy. Highest number of new deaths since the beginning of the epidemic in Italy. 46 doctors have died to date (with 4 additional deaths today). 6414 health workers have tested positive That's a seriously worrying number. In good news for my family, Canada's putting in a 75% wage subsidy for small/med business which would help my parents out a lot. The $40k loan also would help get cash influx going again as well (Shutting down a business means invoices come due with no revenue to pay them off). https://globalnews.ca/news/6741037/coronavirus-wage-subsidy-canada/ | ||
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
In Germany, there aren't that many deaths in comparison, but from what I've read, this might change rapidly as soon as ICUs reach their limits. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On March 28 2020 03:00 Lmui wrote: I thought Italy had it semi-controlled but from worldometers: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/ 5909 new cases and 919 new deaths in Italy. Highest number of new deaths since the beginning of the epidemic in Italy. 46 doctors have died to date (with 4 additional deaths today). 6414 health workers have tested positive That's a seriously worrying number. In good news for my family, Canada's putting in a 75% wage subsidy for small/med business which would help my parents out a lot. The $40k loan also would help get cash influx going again as well (Shutting down a business means invoices come due with no revenue to pay them off). https://globalnews.ca/news/6741037/coronavirus-wage-subsidy-canada/ It looks like its still to ramp up in Spain as well. Hit 569 deaths today and France too at 299 deaths though they both had higher death counts yesterday. | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
Whether or not you think China is reporting cases accurately, it definitely seems far more controlled in China now since it's starting to open up in comparison to the states. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On March 28 2020 06:15 Danglars wrote: China looks to have peaked and fallen, but their recent action of re-closing all theaters after initially opening them suggests the extremely low reports of new cases is not the full story. Indeed, that is suspicious. While I'm certain their quarantine significantly reduced the spread, there are two problems I'd say I have with them: 1. They absolutely, definitely underreported the actual number of infected and dead. Maybe by a factor of 10 (unsubstantiated speculation on that number). 2. They made it sound like they completely shut down all cases inside the country, but that simply doesn't sound realistic no matter how careful they might have been. After already having that major outbreak, they would at least have "limited community spread" afterwards. The way they did it, it very much sounds like the strategy they went with was shutting everything down (the right answer, as we now see), but then afterwards taking a "we say it's over, so it's now over" approach to more or less telling everyone that it's time to go back to work and bring production up to show good numbers. Something about how it all went sounds less-than-realistic, and in more than just a "I don't like how low their numbers are" kind of way. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On March 28 2020 06:25 LegalLord wrote: Indeed, that is suspicious. While I'm certain their quarantine significantly reduced the spread, there are two problems I'd say I have with them: 1. They absolutely, definitely underreported the actual number of infected and dead. Maybe by a factor of 10 (unsubstantiated speculation on that number). 2. They made it sound like they completely shut down all cases inside the country, but that simply doesn't sound realistic no matter how careful they might have been. After already having that major outbreak, they would at least have "limited community spread" afterwards. The way they did it, it very much sounds like the strategy they went with was shutting everything down (the right answer, as we now see), but then afterwards taking a "we say it's over, so it's now over" approach to more or less telling everyone that it's time to go back to work and bring production up to show good numbers. Something about how it all went sounds less-than-realistic, and in more than just a "I don't like how low their numbers are" kind of way. In general, china multiplies good by a factor of 10 or divides bad by a factor of 10. I'm assuming all Corona related numbers are at minimum 10x reported. There's just so much history to support it. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
Like Birx has been saying, the percent positives and the low net %infected across regions are signs of hope. Now that testing has greatly expanded, the data will accumulate to analyze the spread. It's hard to get any sense of scale and effect on China. Anecdotally, a couple news organizations are reporting persisting struggles to treat and mitigate. It might be the historians looking over records and satellite data to reconstruct China's response and success. Briefings from the White House team are basically nightly. Y'all can skip Trump & Pence's portion to hear from Birx & Fauci. | ||
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Sharkies
Hong Kong92 Posts
Schools are reopening in all parts of China apart from Beijing and Shanghai (playing it conservatively in Beijing as political capital and Shanghai as the main port of entry for all foreigners). The reality is a lot of people who cannot read Chinese have very limited information on the China situation (western media actually have very little understanding of China and often get basic details like the title of key politicians wrong), so it is difficult for the public to make an accurate assessment of what is happening based on fragmented and sometimes incorrect information. | ||
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