Coronavirus and You - Page 76

On March 24 2020 02:43 Fleetfeet wrote:


It's the same dilemma people have on a personal level, imo. I could have (should have) stayed at home a week or two before my work shut down. It would have been better and safer because fewer risks early on against an exponential curve can have massive results.

I didn't stop working until my work was shut down, for the simple reason of not knowing if I could afford to. Corporations, similarly, are going to be up against the unappealing loss of income versus an uncertain future. Is closing down if you're a vector of transmission the right call? Yeah, but I don't hold much of a grudge against the people making the decision for these businesses - that's a tough trigger to pull.

On March 24 2020 02:47 Mohdoo wrote:


To me, this sounds like people feeling entitled to good, pleasing choices.

Many people can't seem to wrap their heads around only having 2 choices: awful and absolutely terrible

They keep being like "but what about an option where everything is great? I want that one."

Doctors and hospitals are turning to decades-old antimalarial drugs to treat patients infected with the disease caused by the new coronavirus, as they work to repurpose existing therapies in a race to find effective treatments.

Antimalarial drugs chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine have both shown early signs of improving symptoms of some patients diagnosed with Covid-19, the respiratory disease caused by the coronavirus, based on reports by doctors and researchers in South Korea, France and China. Physicians in the U.S. are also using the drugs.

Chloroquine, approved for Americans in the 1940s, and hydroxychloroquine, greenlighted the next decade, are also prescribed for patients with lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. The drugs are considered relatively safe for most people although chloroquine is slightly more toxic.

Health officials across the world are issuing warnings over the use of antimalarial drugs after President Trump’s comments about treating the coronavirus with them sparked panic-buying and overdoses.

In recent days, thousands of consumers across Africa and South Asia rushed to stockpile chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, drugs that are usually used to combat malaria, vacuuming up supplies in cities in the developing world, sending prices skyrocketing and prompting panicked warnings from local authorities.

In the U.S. and some other developed countries, meantime, some doctors have started to prescribe the drugs against the coronavirus, sparking heated ethical debates because their efficacy has yet to be demonstrated in full-scale clinical studies. [...]
Antimalarial drugs chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine have both shown early signs of improving symptoms of some patients diagnosed with Covid-19, based on reports by doctors and researchers in South Korea, France and China.

In France, interest in antimalarial drugs surged last week after a French professor released a study showing that 100% of patients infected by coronavirus and treated with a combination of hydroxychloroquine and the azithromycin antibiotic were cured after six days. The proportion of cured patients was 70% for those treated only with hydroxychloroquine and 12.5% for those who received no treatment, the study showed.

Although the study had a very limited scope—it encompassed only 30 patients—French Prof. Didier Raoult said he opted to publish the findings because of the urgent need for an effective drug against coronavirus.

On March 24 2020 00:42 Nakajin wrote:
Well it's not all bad
https://globalnews.ca/news/6716978/coronavirus-harvey-weinstein/

On March 24 2020 05:44 BigFan wrote:
Thought I'll also share this here: article

Excerpt from article that may explain some of the higher death toll in Italy compared to China:



"The overall case-fatality rate in Italy (7.2%) is substantially higher than in China (2.3%). When data were stratified by age group, the case-fatality rate in Italy and China appear very similar for age groups 0 to 69 years, but rates are higher in Italy among individuals aged 70 years or older, and in particular among those aged 80 years or older. This difference is difficult to explain.

On March 24 2020 05:50 mahrgell wrote:


How is this difficult to explain, when hospitals are in full triage mode and simply don't treat them, because they need the beds for the younger ones?

In France, interest in antimalarial drugs surged last week after a French professor released a study showing that 100% of patients infected by coronavirus and treated with a combination of hydroxychloroquine and the azithromycin antibiotic were cured after six days. The proportion of cured patients was 70% for those treated only with hydroxychloroquine and 12.5% for those who received no treatment, the study showed.

Although the study had a very limited scope—it encompassed only 30 patients—French Prof. Didier Raoult said he opted to publish the findings because of the urgent need for an effective drug against coronavirus.

On March 24 2020 05:34 SC-Shield wrote:


There are many exercises to do at home, I'm sure there are youtube videos for that.

On a different note, US seems to climb a lot at the moment, it's next to Italy. The question is who will overtake China - Italy or USA? Really sad race in that case.

Trump doesn't want lockdown to last for more than 15 days. He's considering lifting it, but will still think about it until Monday: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/23/politics/trump-coronavirus-15-days-social-distancing/index.html