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SC-Shield
Bulgaria873 Posts
Link: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/23/asia/hong-kong-coronavirus-quarantine-intl-hnk/index.html Edit: Germany's economy could shrink by 20.6% if lockdown lasts 3 months. If it's 2 months, then 7.2%. Link: https://www.politico.eu/article/study-coronavirus-could-slash-german-economy-by-over-20-percent/ | ||
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nooneelse
Denmark2 Posts
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r00ty
Germany1083 Posts
My neighbours father just died in a care home (not because of corona). Him dying was expected but the family was sueing the home for access to him. They were forbidden to do so last week, because they broke the corona protection rules multiple times. Shitty situation. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
Just think how many such cases. So sad. What a fucked world. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
https://globalnews.ca/news/6716978/coronavirus-harvey-weinstein/ | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5617 Posts
On March 24 2020 00:24 Mohdoo wrote: Friend of mine's girlfriend felt like she'd get fired if she kept working from home, so she is back in her office. She basically works with a fleet of boomers, so they all think it is a hoax and not worth adapting to. Just think how many such cases. So sad. What a fucked world. From what I have seen it's generally the young who don't take the virus seriously. Besides, what's the deal with this constant shit talking recently about middle aged people? I don't get why it is ok to talk like that about those people when it is generally seen as unacceptable to ascribe characteristics to other large groups of people. | ||
KwarK
United States44243 Posts
On March 24 2020 01:05 Elroi wrote: From what I have seen it's generally the young who don't take the virus seriously. Besides, what's the deal with this constant shit talking recently about middle aged people? I don't get why it is ok to talk like that about those people when it is generally seen as unacceptable to ascribe characteristics to other large groups of people. It's the difference between attacking people for what they are and for what they choose to do. Mocking boomers for being old would be silly. Mocking boomers for taking medical advice from talk radio is fine. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 24 2020 01:05 Elroi wrote: From what I have seen it's generally the young who don't take the virus seriously. Besides, what's the deal with this constant shit talking recently about middle aged people? I don't get why it is ok to talk like that about those people when it is generally seen as unacceptable to ascribe characteristics to other large groups of people. The "millenials vs boomers" meme and maybe political stance has been going on for a while. I don't think the final chapter has been written about these age-based grudges. Part of me thinks the rhetoric is heightened because this is something of a global crisis and the pressure exacerbates existing tensions. Part of me thinks this is different because of a sorting of voting patterns between age groups in several countries. But I do generally think the "shit talking recently about middle aged people" is way beyond what should be acceptable in polite society and among self-respecting people interacting online in websites like these. Specifically, "works with a fleet of boomers,so they all think" Covid doesn't need that kind of interaction, which will just encourage the targets of such "they're boomers so of course they think it's a hoax" to echo back disparaging remarks about millenials and gen-z that are equally unproductive. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27267 Posts
On March 24 2020 01:08 KwarK wrote: It's the difference between attacking people for what they are and for what they choose to do. Mocking boomers for being old would be silly. Mocking boomers for taking medical advice from talk radio is fine. I’m not sure I can take another ‘they fought in WW2 for you, stay at home for them’ image on social media. | ||
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KwarK
United States44243 Posts
On March 24 2020 01:24 Wombat_NI wrote: I’m not sure I can take another ‘they fought in WW2 for you, stay at home for them’ image on social media. Especially given they didn't fight in WW2, Boomers are the shitty kids of the Greatest Generation. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On March 24 2020 01:05 Elroi wrote: From what I have seen it's generally the young who don't take the virus seriously. Besides, what's the deal with this constant shit talking recently about middle aged people? I don't get why it is ok to talk like that about those people when it is generally seen as unacceptable to ascribe characteristics to other large groups of people. It's the power disparity between the groups. Baby boomers have a massive proportion of wealth in the country and hold a lot of leadership positions, while millenials and younger have a much smaller amount of wealth than has been historically normal for their age cohorts (off the top of my head, I've read that Millenials have something like 5% of the wealth, when Boomers had >25% at the same age). Politically, they are also extremely different in their beliefs, views, and voting patterns. TL and similar sites tend to be dominated by younger users so there will be more venting about it from their side. (I can only speak about the US). Older people in the US were more likely to take it less seriously purely because they are more republican and republican news sources were playing down the virus up until the last two weeks. They've since started taking it more seriously, however (both the voters and news sources) so there is something of a lag. Some outdated views on things like WFH do also exist, but I doubt that's a boomer exclusive problem - it's the company culture. (sidenote : how on earth "OK, Boomer" came to be considered something of a slur is baffling to me) Also, 538 just published an article on Boomer vs Millenial opinions on the virus : https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-one-generation-taking-the-coronavirus-less-seriously-than-others-not-really/ | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria873 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
On March 22 2020 23:03 mahrgell wrote: Meanwhile 3 German states(Saarland, Rheinland Pfalz and Baden Würtemberg) and Switzerland have now announced to take in French ICU patients from Grand Est. I'm actually surprised by this, considering that so far it looked like everyones solidarity ended at their own borders. Was there any reasoning why no Italians were taken in? I'm not pissing, I don't know French and I would be expecting them to be transferred. Just being curious, please don't make your own explanation, if there's none there's none. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
all patients currently there(suffering from other illnesses) will be moved to a different hospital 2h away. after the 48h, time in which it will be disinfected and re-purposed, all medical staff will be put in isolation/quarantine there and the hospital will function only as a treatment center for covid patients. some medical staff will be brought in if needed. our major hospitals are using different treatments for covid and centralize their results/findings; it's an experiment meant to find the best course of action, then deploy it country wide. 576 confirmed, 5 deaths(4 with underlying heath issues, 1 was fucked over(late testing, sent home initially after being diagnosed with the common flu)by the hospital personnel). | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
1. Stay at home orders are intended to reduce infection rates 2. Less infection means less economic impact overall 3. Delaying stay at home orders for the sake of the economy does not help the economy, since it increases total infection rates 4. Choosing to delay stay at home orders actually hurts the economy by waiting, since infection rates eventually hit a point where stay at home orders will eventually be made anyway. 5. In the United States, we can say with confidence that stay at home orders will eventually become necessary, so we ought to just bite the bullet and do it immediately. Where am I wrong? | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
About 400 more case today, altought a lot of test results were due to come today. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9243 Posts
On March 24 2020 02:13 Mohdoo wrote: So someone correct me if I am wrong. 1. Stay at home orders are intended to reduce infection rates 2. Less infection means less economic impact overall 3. Delaying stay at home orders for the sake of the economy does not help the economy, since it increases total infection rates 4. Choosing to delay stay at home orders actually hurts the economy by waiting, since infection rates eventually hit a point where stay at home orders will eventually be made anyway. 5. In the United States, we can say with confidence that stay at home orders will eventually become necessary, so we ought to just bite the bullet and do it immediately. Where am I wrong? You could replace 'stay at home orders' with 'mass suicide orders' to see where you are wrong (ok, maybe not at step 5). The economic impact is not based on number of infections alone, the measures themselves have economic impact and it's difficult to quantify both. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On March 24 2020 02:28 Dan HH wrote: You could replace 'stay at home orders' with 'mass suicide orders' to see where you are wrong (ok, maybe not at step 5). The economic impact is not based on number of infections alone, the measures themselves have economic impact and it's difficult to quantify both. But if we agree there is a point of infection where stay at home is necessary, and we see numbers growing exponentially, is it that some people are assuming it will naturally decrease suddenly? | ||
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