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On January 02 2021 15:42 Magic Powers wrote:I guess we know now why deaths are so high in some countries. 26 deaths in a retirement home that could've perhaps been prevented (I say perhaps because it's not proven that the Santa guy infected people). Both he and the nurses behaved completely irresponsibly. Why are people collectively (not just individuals) breaking social distancing rules towards the elderly inside care facilities without doing tests first? https://www.dw.com/en/covid-kills-26-in-belgian-care-home-after-santa-claus-visit/a-56106434
Honestly, unless they are literally testing on entry, or fully vaccinated, elderly care centers need to just not have visitors indoors. There are hundreds or thousands of examples worldwide now where Covid absolutely ravages care homes and kills off a third or more of the residents(not to mention staffing issues that inevitably result).
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On January 02 2021 15:42 Magic Powers wrote:I guess we know now why deaths are so high in some countries. 26 deaths in a retirement home that could've perhaps been prevented (I say perhaps because it's not proven that the Santa guy infected people). Both he and the nurses behaved completely irresponsibly. Why are people collectively (not just individuals) breaking social distancing rules towards the elderly inside care facilities without doing tests first? https://www.dw.com/en/covid-kills-26-in-belgian-care-home-after-santa-claus-visit/a-56106434
It's nuts. Especially considering Sinterklaas is mostly a children's party. Usually there are a lot of events surrounding Sinterklaas for the kids but they cancelled them all due to Covid. But then somehow someone in that retirement home thought it was a good idea to go ahead with Sinterklaas anyway. It's incomprehensible to me what they must've been thinking.
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On January 02 2021 17:12 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2021 15:42 Magic Powers wrote:I guess we know now why deaths are so high in some countries. 26 deaths in a retirement home that could've perhaps been prevented (I say perhaps because it's not proven that the Santa guy infected people). Both he and the nurses behaved completely irresponsibly. Why are people collectively (not just individuals) breaking social distancing rules towards the elderly inside care facilities without doing tests first? https://www.dw.com/en/covid-kills-26-in-belgian-care-home-after-santa-claus-visit/a-56106434 It's nuts. Especially considering Sinterklaas is mostly a children's party. Usually there are a lot of events surrounding Sinterklaas for the kids but they cancelled them all due to Covid. But then somehow someone in that retirement home thought it was a good idea to go ahead with Sinterklaas anyway. It's incomprehensible to me what they must've been thinking.
What qualifications are needed to work in care homes, who runs them and what do some of the workers get paid?
At least here all those factors are well, less than ideal. If you’re attracting good people whose sense of compassion can override their shocking lack of compensation for the actual work they do, well that compassion has its downsides too.
I’d assume they wanted to do something nice for the residents, didn’t think it through and it had disastrous consequences. If they didn’t give a shit they wouldn’t have bothered to have done anything.
As a wider non-Covid point do all the elderly even have to be in homes that are? My grandfather died of dementia-related issues in 2019 and my grandmother is rapidly declining with Lewy Body dementia, so there are absolutely necessary stints for medical reasons. In my pre-Covid visits though there seemed rather a lot that only needed minimal care, if any.
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On January 02 2021 22:34 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2021 17:12 RvB wrote:On January 02 2021 15:42 Magic Powers wrote:I guess we know now why deaths are so high in some countries. 26 deaths in a retirement home that could've perhaps been prevented (I say perhaps because it's not proven that the Santa guy infected people). Both he and the nurses behaved completely irresponsibly. Why are people collectively (not just individuals) breaking social distancing rules towards the elderly inside care facilities without doing tests first? https://www.dw.com/en/covid-kills-26-in-belgian-care-home-after-santa-claus-visit/a-56106434 It's nuts. Especially considering Sinterklaas is mostly a children's party. Usually there are a lot of events surrounding Sinterklaas for the kids but they cancelled them all due to Covid. But then somehow someone in that retirement home thought it was a good idea to go ahead with Sinterklaas anyway. It's incomprehensible to me what they must've been thinking. What qualifications are needed to work in care homes, who runs them and what do some of the workers get paid? At least here all those factors are well, less than ideal. If you’re attracting good people whose sense of compassion can override their shocking lack of compensation for the actual work they do, well that compassion has its downsides too. I’d assume they wanted to do something nice for the residents, didn’t think it through and it had disastrous consequences. If they didn’t give a shit they wouldn’t have bothered to have done anything. As a wider non-Covid point do all the elderly even have to be in homes that are? My grandfather died of dementia-related issues in 2019 and my grandmother is rapidly declining with Lewy Body dementia, so there are absolutely necessary stints for medical reasons. In my pre-Covid visits though there seemed rather a lot that only needed minimal care, if any.
It certainly depends on the family/household. They'd need to compare the risk of exposure from family/friends/neighbors (if the elderly person stays home) to the risk of exposure at the assisted living / nursing home locations. And that's assuming they can / want to prioritize safety over everything else (cost, fun, quality of life, mobility, access to aid, etc.).
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Another case of reckless behavior, this time by hospital staff. The excuse reads like something from a child's mind in an adult's body.
“Any exposure, if it occurred, would have been completely innocent, and quite accidental, as the individual had no COVID symptoms and only sought to lift the spirits of those around them during what is a very stressful time,” Irene Chavez, senior vice president and area manager of Kaiser Permanente San Jose Medical Center, said in a statement.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-02/coronavirus-outbreak-at-kaiser-san-jose-hospital-infects-43-people
I just can't believe this! We're caught in a whirlwind of incompetence...
No wonder the lockdowns hardly show the effect that they should in theory if even health professionals can't follow simple safety guidelines.
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That's some conjecture.
Your post is really, really bad.
You take single incidents to discredit the incredible burden that our health service staff shoulders right now, for the umpteenth month.
That disregard is shameful.
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So how many single incidents do there have to be before it's a repeated pattern of behaviour?
Because we are way way past the 'single incidents' stage now and have been for a while.
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An outbreak of a very infectious virus among a group of overworked, overstressed individuals working in close proximity with each other and sharing mice, keyboards, and breakrooms in a hospital inundated with COVID patients? The only explanation for that is an air-powered costume, of course.
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On January 03 2021 20:24 Mikau313 wrote:
So how many single incidents do there have to be before it's a repeated pattern of behaviour?
Because we are way way past the 'single incidents' stage now and have been for a while.
If your pool is the entire fucking world, there need to be numerous to discredit millions of hard working healthcare staff. That should be pretty obvious
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On January 03 2021 19:59 Artisreal wrote:
That's some conjecture.
Your post is really, really bad.
You take single incidents to discredit the incredible burden that our health service staff shoulders right now, for the umpteenth month.
That disregard is shameful.
A single incident? This exact thing also happened recently in a retirement home in Belgium. I'm seeing a pattern.
The rate of asymptomatic transmissions is very high. Healthcare workers should have known this by September.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/new-research-adds-growing-evidence-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19-n1240708
A later study published in November confirmed this.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33141862/
Celebrating can be done in various ways that would be considered much safer. It may not provide for the most relaxed atmosphere, but it's better than risking a further spread. Hospitals are already enough of a danger zone for covid-19, so why enhance the risk any further? Personally I wouldn't be able to cheer while knowing unprotected/untested staff is present.
There are countless people in this world who have the same burden as any nurse. By September 28th, around 1700 healthcare workers - over 200 of which were nurses - had died from covid-19. This is likely an underestimate, and about 10% of all covid-19 deaths were estimated to be made up of healthcare workers.
The blame mostly went towards governments and employers. Apparently partial blame can now also be put on healthcare workers themselves. These are professionals we're talking about, not people who lack basic understanding of medical practices.
The following is a quote from a few months ago regarding worker safety.
“These deaths were avoidable and unnecessary due to government and employer willful inaction," said Zenei Cortez, R.N., a president of NNU, in a statement. "Nurses and health care workers were forced to work without personal protective equipment they needed to do their job safely. It is immoral and unconscionable that they lost their lives. Our state and federal governments must require hospitals and other health care employers to publicly report infection rates and deaths of their workers. We have the right to a safe workplace under the Occupational Safety and Health Act. Information is a part of safety. But some employers are not telling nurses when they have been exposed or who has been infected. This is irresponsible and dangerous for nurses, health care workers, and patients.”
https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/practices/report-how-many-u-s-healthcare-workers-have-died-from-covid-19-contracted-job
https://www.icn.ch/news/icn-confirms-1500-nurses-have-died-covid-19-44-countries-and-estimates-healthcare-worker-covid
They were demanding better safety, yet some of them apparently don't care for safety when it's Christmas time? Does the virus go on holidays while Santa brings his presents?
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On January 03 2021 21:18 Artisreal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2021 20:24 Mikau313 wrote:
So how many single incidents do there have to be before it's a repeated pattern of behaviour?
Because we are way way past the 'single incidents' stage now and have been for a while. If your pool is the entire fucking world, there need to be numerous to discredit millions of hard working healthcare staff. That should be pretty obvious
At least 3 by my count...
Was chatting to my neighbour over the fence the other day, who’s an ICU nurse. Was rather surprised to hear she and her colleagues are low down the list for vaccination, under the rationale that they work with (theoretically) good PPE.
I mean there are limits to people’s morale and professionalism, especially when they’re not exactly generously remunerated.
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On January 03 2021 21:20 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2021 19:59 Artisreal wrote:
That's some conjecture.
Your post is really, really bad.
You take single incidents to discredit the incredible burden that our health service staff shoulders right now, for the umpteenth month.
That disregard is shameful. A single incident? This exact thing also happened recently in a retirement home in Belgium. I'm seeing a pattern. The rate of asymptomatic transmissions is very high. Healthcare workers should have known this by September. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/new-research-adds-growing-evidence-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19-n1240708A later study published in November confirmed this. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33141862/Celebrating can be done in various ways that would be considered much safer. It may not provide for the most relaxed atmosphere, but it's better than risking a further spread. Hospitals are already enough of a danger zone for covid-19, so why enhance the risk any further? Personally I wouldn't be able to cheer while knowing unprotected/untested staff is present. There are countless people in this world who have the same burden as any nurse. By September 28th, around 1700 healthcare workers - over 200 of which were nurses - had died from covid-19. This is likely an underestimate, and about 10% of all covid-19 deaths were estimated to be made up of healthcare workers. The blame mostly went towards governments and employers. Apparently partial blame can now also be put on healthcare workers themselves. These are professionals we're talking about, not people who lack basic understanding of medical practices. The following is a quote from a few months ago regarding worker safety. “These deaths were avoidable and unnecessary due to government and employer willful inaction," said Zenei Cortez, R.N., a president of NNU, in a statement. "Nurses and health care workers were forced to work without personal protective equipment they needed to do their job safely. It is immoral and unconscionable that they lost their lives. Our state and federal governments must require hospitals and other health care employers to publicly report infection rates and deaths of their workers. We have the right to a safe workplace under the Occupational Safety and Health Act. Information is a part of safety. But some employers are not telling nurses when they have been exposed or who has been infected. This is irresponsible and dangerous for nurses, health care workers, and patients.” https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/practices/report-how-many-u-s-healthcare-workers-have-died-from-covid-19-contracted-jobhttps://www.icn.ch/news/icn-confirms-1500-nurses-have-died-covid-19-44-countries-and-estimates-healthcare-worker-covidThey were demanding better safety, yet some of them apparently don't care for safety when it's Christmas time? Does the virus go on holidays while Santa brings his presents?
I should've asked this before posting, my mistake.
Please correct me, because I hope I'm wrong.
You blame healthcare staff for high covid numbers?
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On January 04 2021 00:50 Artisreal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2021 21:20 Magic Powers wrote:On January 03 2021 19:59 Artisreal wrote:
That's some conjecture.
Your post is really, really bad.
You take single incidents to discredit the incredible burden that our health service staff shoulders right now, for the umpteenth month.
That disregard is shameful. A single incident? This exact thing also happened recently in a retirement home in Belgium. I'm seeing a pattern. The rate of asymptomatic transmissions is very high. Healthcare workers should have known this by September. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/new-research-adds-growing-evidence-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19-n1240708A later study published in November confirmed this. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33141862/Celebrating can be done in various ways that would be considered much safer. It may not provide for the most relaxed atmosphere, but it's better than risking a further spread. Hospitals are already enough of a danger zone for covid-19, so why enhance the risk any further? Personally I wouldn't be able to cheer while knowing unprotected/untested staff is present. There are countless people in this world who have the same burden as any nurse. By September 28th, around 1700 healthcare workers - over 200 of which were nurses - had died from covid-19. This is likely an underestimate, and about 10% of all covid-19 deaths were estimated to be made up of healthcare workers. The blame mostly went towards governments and employers. Apparently partial blame can now also be put on healthcare workers themselves. These are professionals we're talking about, not people who lack basic understanding of medical practices. The following is a quote from a few months ago regarding worker safety. “These deaths were avoidable and unnecessary due to government and employer willful inaction," said Zenei Cortez, R.N., a president of NNU, in a statement. "Nurses and health care workers were forced to work without personal protective equipment they needed to do their job safely. It is immoral and unconscionable that they lost their lives. Our state and federal governments must require hospitals and other health care employers to publicly report infection rates and deaths of their workers. We have the right to a safe workplace under the Occupational Safety and Health Act. Information is a part of safety. But some employers are not telling nurses when they have been exposed or who has been infected. This is irresponsible and dangerous for nurses, health care workers, and patients.” https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/practices/report-how-many-u-s-healthcare-workers-have-died-from-covid-19-contracted-jobhttps://www.icn.ch/news/icn-confirms-1500-nurses-have-died-covid-19-44-countries-and-estimates-healthcare-worker-covidThey were demanding better safety, yet some of them apparently don't care for safety when it's Christmas time? Does the virus go on holidays while Santa brings his presents? I should've asked this before posting, my mistake. Please correct me, because I hope I'm wrong. You blame healthcare staff for high covid numbers?
No, I blame them for adding to the numbers despite their medical expertise. It's bad enough that many people don't follow simple rules, especially when they're old enough to have learned discipline in life. But most people aren't medically trained, and some have been misled, so they can be forgiven to an extent. Knowing that even healthcare professionals - who have no excuse for it - also display such behavior (and make excuses for it when they do) is disheartening. It implies that some of our collective efforts go to waste due to very easily avoidable human failure - and not just from a few lone individuals, but whole groups of them. And that after many of their colleagues (rightfully) complained about poor working conditions.
Belgium, Los Angeles, what other places will we hear from next? What message are they sending to us and to their colleagues around the world?
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You think a nurse is trained in epidemiology?
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On January 04 2021 02:49 Uldridge wrote:
You think a nurse is trained in epidemiology?
That is not necessary for them to know that their actions were reckless.
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One of my sister's (a PCP) nurses is an antivaxxer. Apparently can't fire a nurse in the US for refusing vaccines (she won't even take the flu vaccine, apparently, so the covid one is somewhat out of the question, though my sister said she'll try to persuade her). The nurse also got a newborn and is refusing some of the vaccines that mothers typically get for after giving birth? I can't recall what they were. Not a full blown antivaxxer, just doesn't want to take most of them.
On the positive side, influenza cases in my sister's county are down 98% from last year.
Also, Florida is apparently NOT giving health care workers the vaccine first. They're prioritizing 65+ residents. (They say they're doing frontline workers as well, but it's florida : who knows how they're defining that. Healthcare workers are rather pissed).
Florida's decision to vaccinate seniors first causes distribution 'chaos'
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-s-decision-vaccinate-seniors-first-causes-distribution-chaos-n1252615
US is at something like 10% of what was planned for vaccines : 2.3 or something million and 20 million was planned before January 1st.
Those ambitions were later sharply reduced and the Secretary of Health and Human Services said 20 million would be vaccinated by the end of 2020. In the end, the country didn’t even get close to that number. As of Thursday, less than 3 million people had received the first dose of the vaccine, out of almost 12.5 million that had been distributed, according to the data from the Centers for Disease Control and prevention.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/concern-increases-slow-rollout-covid-vaccines.html
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations
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On January 04 2021 02:44 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2021 00:50 Artisreal wrote:On January 03 2021 21:20 Magic Powers wrote:On January 03 2021 19:59 Artisreal wrote:
That's some conjecture.
Your post is really, really bad.
You take single incidents to discredit the incredible burden that our health service staff shoulders right now, for the umpteenth month.
That disregard is shameful. A single incident? This exact thing also happened recently in a retirement home in Belgium. I'm seeing a pattern. The rate of asymptomatic transmissions is very high. Healthcare workers should have known this by September. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/new-research-adds-growing-evidence-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19-n1240708A later study published in November confirmed this. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33141862/Celebrating can be done in various ways that would be considered much safer. It may not provide for the most relaxed atmosphere, but it's better than risking a further spread. Hospitals are already enough of a danger zone for covid-19, so why enhance the risk any further? Personally I wouldn't be able to cheer while knowing unprotected/untested staff is present. There are countless people in this world who have the same burden as any nurse. By September 28th, around 1700 healthcare workers - over 200 of which were nurses - had died from covid-19. This is likely an underestimate, and about 10% of all covid-19 deaths were estimated to be made up of healthcare workers. The blame mostly went towards governments and employers. Apparently partial blame can now also be put on healthcare workers themselves. These are professionals we're talking about, not people who lack basic understanding of medical practices. The following is a quote from a few months ago regarding worker safety. “These deaths were avoidable and unnecessary due to government and employer willful inaction," said Zenei Cortez, R.N., a president of NNU, in a statement. "Nurses and health care workers were forced to work without personal protective equipment they needed to do their job safely. It is immoral and unconscionable that they lost their lives. Our state and federal governments must require hospitals and other health care employers to publicly report infection rates and deaths of their workers. We have the right to a safe workplace under the Occupational Safety and Health Act. Information is a part of safety. But some employers are not telling nurses when they have been exposed or who has been infected. This is irresponsible and dangerous for nurses, health care workers, and patients.” https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/practices/report-how-many-u-s-healthcare-workers-have-died-from-covid-19-contracted-jobhttps://www.icn.ch/news/icn-confirms-1500-nurses-have-died-covid-19-44-countries-and-estimates-healthcare-worker-covidThey were demanding better safety, yet some of them apparently don't care for safety when it's Christmas time? Does the virus go on holidays while Santa brings his presents? I should've asked this before posting, my mistake. Please correct me, because I hope I'm wrong. You blame healthcare staff for high covid numbers? No, I blame them for adding to the numbers despite their medical expertise. It's bad enough that many people don't follow simple rules, especially when they're old enough to have learned discipline in life. But most people aren't medically trained, and some have been misled, so they can be forgiven to an extent. Knowing that even healthcare professionals - who have no excuse for it - also display such behavior (and make excuses for it when they do) is disheartening. It implies that some of our collective efforts go to waste due to very easily avoidable human failure - and not just from a few lone individuals, but whole groups of them. And that after many of their colleagues (rightfully) complained about poor working conditions. Belgium, Los Angeles, what other places will we hear from next? What message are they sending to us and to their colleagues around the world?
My bad then, I misinterpreted, I guess.
There's things to be unearthed further though. Why did they not do proper procedure and stuff. Rather than just blaming incompetence or negligence, which surely explains some instances but it's to be doubted that this is the one and only reason.
I remember early in the pandemic things going apeshit in some Canadian nursery homes because one person was masking his fever with ibuprofen.
And thanks to the institutions not giving out proper jobs because it's cheaper not to (?), He'd worked in multiple home, infecting more due to that.
The authorities tried to remedy that by forcing people to work in one long term care facility only. This sounds more like individual afraid of losing his job / mortgage including negligence than just negligence out of being lazy.
So there's multiple levels to that and blaming individuals is not the answer here I think.
That all notwithstanding, it's no good not to use PPE properly if you care for people.
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On January 03 2021 21:18 Artisreal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2021 20:24 Mikau313 wrote:
So how many single incidents do there have to be before it's a repeated pattern of behaviour?
Because we are way way past the 'single incidents' stage now and have been for a while. If your pool is the entire fucking world, there need to be numerous to discredit millions of hard working healthcare staff. That should be pretty obvious
There have been at least half a dozen of such cases in my country of 17 million alone, not even counting the rest of the world.
We're way past numerous.
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On January 04 2021 05:13 Nevuk wrote:One of my sister's (a PCP) nurses is an antivaxxer. Apparently can't fire a nurse in the US for refusing vaccines (she won't even take the flu vaccine, apparently, so the covid one is somewhat out of the question, though my sister said she'll try to persuade her). The nurse also got a newborn and is refusing some of the vaccines that mothers typically get for after giving birth? I can't recall what they were. Not a full blown antivaxxer, just doesn't want to take most of them. On the positive side, influenza cases in my sister's county are down 98% from last year. Also, Florida is apparently NOT giving health care workers the vaccine first. They're prioritizing 65+ residents. (They say they're doing frontline workers as well, but it's florida : who knows how they're defining that. Healthcare workers are rather pissed). https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-s-decision-vaccinate-seniors-first-causes-distribution-chaos-n1252615US is at something like 10% of what was planned for vaccines : 2.3 or something million and 20 million was planned before January 1st. Show nested quote +Those ambitions were later sharply reduced and the Secretary of Health and Human Services said 20 million would be vaccinated by the end of 2020. In the end, the country didn’t even get close to that number. As of Thursday, less than 3 million people had received the first dose of the vaccine, out of almost 12.5 million that had been distributed, according to the data from the Centers for Disease Control and prevention. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/concern-increases-slow-rollout-covid-vaccines.htmlhttps://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations
Florida absolutely gave their first vaccines to healthcare workers. Even the link you provided says as much.
But while DeSantis and his administration have taken on a "coordinating role" and made sure that the first doses went to front-line health care workers and nursing home residents
There's a difference between frontline workers and essential workers. I believe the federal government has advised giving the 2nd phase of vaccines to essential workers, which are teachers, grocery store workers, etc. Some states like Texas and Florida have broken away from that advice and say they are going to vaccinate the seniors first. Both strategies have merit, in my opinion.
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On January 04 2021 06:37 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2021 05:13 Nevuk wrote:One of my sister's (a PCP) nurses is an antivaxxer. Apparently can't fire a nurse in the US for refusing vaccines (she won't even take the flu vaccine, apparently, so the covid one is somewhat out of the question, though my sister said she'll try to persuade her). The nurse also got a newborn and is refusing some of the vaccines that mothers typically get for after giving birth? I can't recall what they were. Not a full blown antivaxxer, just doesn't want to take most of them. On the positive side, influenza cases in my sister's county are down 98% from last year. Also, Florida is apparently NOT giving health care workers the vaccine first. They're prioritizing 65+ residents. (They say they're doing frontline workers as well, but it's florida : who knows how they're defining that. Healthcare workers are rather pissed). Florida's decision to vaccinate seniors first causes distribution 'chaos' https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-s-decision-vaccinate-seniors-first-causes-distribution-chaos-n1252615US is at something like 10% of what was planned for vaccines : 2.3 or something million and 20 million was planned before January 1st. Those ambitions were later sharply reduced and the Secretary of Health and Human Services said 20 million would be vaccinated by the end of 2020. In the end, the country didn’t even get close to that number. As of Thursday, less than 3 million people had received the first dose of the vaccine, out of almost 12.5 million that had been distributed, according to the data from the Centers for Disease Control and prevention. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/concern-increases-slow-rollout-covid-vaccines.htmlhttps://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations Florida absolutely gave their first vaccines to healthcare workers. Even the link you provided says as much. Show nested quote +But while DeSantis and his administration have taken on a "coordinating role" and made sure that the first doses went to front-line health care workers and nursing home residents There's a difference between frontline workers and essential workers. I believe the federal government has advised giving the 2nd phase of vaccines to essential workers, which are teachers, grocery store workers, etc. Some states like Texas and Florida have broken away from that advice and say they are going to vaccinate the seniors first. Both strategies have merit, in my opinion.
They're only doing "front-line" health workers. IE, those who are triaging covid patients etc. The average health care worker who isn't supposed to be working on covid patients is back of the line. I'm noting that health care workers in the state are extremely upset about this: they feel that they're higher risk than the seniors for spread, and just because they're not front-line doesn't mean they won't get exposed in their normal line of work (which is also true of essential workers, which are who they would normally get grouped with for priority).
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