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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14211 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24385 Posts
Washington has made school closures and bans on gatherings over 250 statewide. www.kiro7.com | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
On March 14 2020 10:09 Sermokala wrote: I mean is it a bad thing for people to start panic buying now? I think its a good thing that people begin panic buying now while we know that the storm is coming but its still safe to go out and shop for these things. Depends what they’re panic buying? Yesterday we were in my store cleared out of toilet paper, hand sanitiser, nappies (diapers), pasta, tinned beans, bread and much more besides, by 11am If you’re a cancer patient or burn victim hand sanitiser is rather useful to have, but oh you’ve no access to it because people have gone insane. Or a normal parent coming in for a normal shop, oh well your child will have to do without nappies. It’s mental and it shouldn’t be allowed full stop. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32159 Posts
On March 14 2020 10:04 KOFgokuon wrote: the TP thing is so dumb. Supply chains exist, that stuff will be there in a week or two still this is what I thought about all of this, but you are kinda SOL if you waited at this point. because people are so quietly racist about all of this shit you can definitely hit a local Mexican or Chinese grocer if you have one and buy all of the stuff that's out of stock elsewhere | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2836 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
I didn't stock pile anything personnally, am I the odd one out? | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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pmh
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QuanticHawk
United States32159 Posts
On March 14 2020 10:41 Nakajin wrote: Are you guys all stocking things? I didn't stock pile anything personnally, am I the odd one out? when it became apparent I may have trouble shopping for necessities over the next month I definitely bulk shopped to have enough if what's going on in Italy happens. When grocery stores near me started having bare shelves I bought the next time I could find that stuff I do not think it will be that bad healthwise but I do not want to be in a situation where I have a bare pantry in a week On March 14 2020 10:43 Chairman Ray wrote: Once coronavirus broke out in Hong Kong, initially there was only a run on masks and hand sanitizer and such. There was a rumor circulating online that paper products may be in short supply due to being imported from mainland China, as well as the materials being used to produce disposable masks instead. This caused a run on toilet paper. The news was viewed in the west as well, and once the virus spread to their hometown, all it took was a few people loading up on toilet paper before game theory kicked in and everybody started panic buying to ensure they got some before other panic buyers took it all. Yeah it was this exactly, unfortunately. The prospect of not being able to find canned goods, grains, or fucking toilet paper was too much to take once the run started | ||
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
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KwarK
United States44371 Posts
On March 14 2020 10:09 Sermokala wrote: I mean is it a bad thing for people to start panic buying now? I think its a good thing that people begin panic buying now while we know that the storm is coming but its still safe to go out and shop for these things. Do you think panic buying increases the available supply for people to use? Because it seems like all it does is give some people more than they can use and restrict others, particularly those without savings and storage space, from buying what they need when they need it. We previously had enough for everyone, now we still have enough for everyone but a lot of people can't get what they need. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
On March 14 2020 10:41 Nakajin wrote: Are you guys all stocking things? I didn't stock pile anything personnally, am I the odd one out? No I think people are being idiotic and hysterical, if I stretch what I’ve got already I can probably manage a fortnight as it is just from what’s already in my freezer. Everyone is going insane bulk buying over here and doesn’t give a fuck about their fellow person, really depressing and I hope it’s them who contract it, although non-fatally obviously | ||
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KwarK
United States44371 Posts
On March 14 2020 10:41 Nakajin wrote: Are you guys all stocking things? I didn't stock pile anything personnally, am I the odd one out? I've stocked nothing but I've probably always got about a month of food on hand anyway if I really committed to eating down the pantry and freezer. I'm confident that the plumbing won't get knocked out so I'm not too worried about water. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
On March 14 2020 10:51 KwarK wrote: Do you think panic buying increases the available supply for people to use? Because it seems like all it does is give some people more than they can use and restrict others, particularly those without savings and storage space, from buying what they need when they need it. At least in me employer in retail we’re not increasing ordering of certain items, because this bulk buying is seen as unpredictable. So really we have the same stock levels as usual it’s just getting wiped out entirely by 11/12 in the day and nobody who works can actually get a whole bunch of this stock later the day. | ||
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1904 Posts
I can understand that the general public was incredibly misinformed because western media was full of lies and propaganda. Look at this North Korean News segment , it's from about a month ago when western media was still full of propaganda that the seasonal flu is worse and masks don't work. Literally North Korean media was more informative and reliable than average western media. What is unbelievable is the complete and utter incompetence of western politicians though. Macron and his wife were attending a theatre a week ago in order to encourage French people to not change their social behavior. This is the quality of western leaders, can't even predict the development a week ahead of them...The level of incompetence is so unbelievable that it makes me entertain conspiracy theories... | ||
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FBTsingLoong
China410 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
On March 14 2020 11:26 REDBLUEGREEN wrote: Nothing of this is surprising. Most people following this story since January when it was developing in China were predicting exactly what is happening right now already at the end of January. I can understand that the general public was incredibly misinformed because western media was full of lies and propaganda. Look at this North Korean News segment , it's from about a month ago when western media was still full of propaganda that the seasonal flu is worse and masks don't work. Literally North Korean media was more informative and reliable than average western media. What is unbelievable is the complete and utter incompetence of western politicians though. Macron and his wife were attending a theatre a week ago in order to encourage French people to not change their social behavior. This is the quality of western leaders, can't even predict the development a week ahead of them...The level of incompetence is so unbelievable that it makes me entertain conspiracy theories... Western politician gets apocalypse calls every few weeks, one time it's migrant brigning terrorist treat, the other it's Russia/Iran/North Korea pushing the world to the brink of destruction, then it's ebola and all of the likes, the next one it's far right movement ready to make western liberal crumble and the one after that it's a financial crisis ready to end capitalism. All of those are analyse and scrutinise and some of it comeback to the close guard of the chief of state, but at the end of the day it's all conjoncture and everyone try to navigate the various risk. If tomorrow night an earthquake toppled San Francisco to the ground killing hundreds of thousand, should a city build upon a well known sysmic hotspot have been evacuated long before, it's citizen moved to safer place? Well of course it's a bit caricatural, but you can't take draconian response to every threat, as real as they can be. States try to balance the level of the threat with the cost, political but also logistic and economic of a certain action. You make higher norms of construction in San Francisco and prepare contingency plan to put in place in case of a epidemic. Of course, that dosen't mean there's not some stupid decision being made, including some that deserve blame, but no one can block every upcoming crisis all of the time. Hopefully after this public health official will be able to look back at what worked and what didn't and try to put in place more adequate counter mesure next time. In the meanwhile, we should mesure the strenght and the quickness of the response that's taking shape in most of the western world. In a matter of about 2 weeks the turn of the earth has been brought to a halt for an epidemic that has done about ~4500 death. It's an incredibly agressive response, probably the biggest public health campaing in history, it will cost states billions and billions, stop pretty much all other political project, destabilize the stock market and change the life of hunderds of millions of persons. It's a huge gambit done by the states, now maybe it's not even enough, but since it's still the calm before the storm we can at least wonder if the size of it all. Public administration, helped by having more power, better national and international coordination and more knowledge are arguably already doing more than was ever done when the spanish flu was killing millions. | ||
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria891 Posts
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