Coronavirus and You - Page 219

Over the last two weeks, the number of people hospitalized with COVID-19 in the United States has approached previous peak numbers from the spring outbreaks concentrated in the Northeast. At the same time, changes in federal reporting methods have placed a significant strain on hospitals throughout the country and, at least temporarily, made the data hospitals report to states incomplete and unreliable.

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The plan called for the federal government to coordinate distribution of test kits, so they could be surged to heavily affected areas, and oversee a national contact-tracing infrastructure. It also proposed lifting contract restrictions on where doctors and hospitals send tests, allowing any laboratory with capacity to test any sample. It proposed a massive scale-up of antibody testing to facilitate a return to work. It called for mandating that all COVID-19 test results from any kind of testing, taken anywhere, be reported to a national repository as well as to state and local health departments.
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Worried about the stock market and his reelection prospects, Trump also feared that more testing would only lead to higher case counts and more bad publicity. Meanwhile, Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House’s coronavirus response coordinator, was reportedly sharing models with senior staff that optimistically—and erroneously, it would turn out—predicted the virus would soon fade away.

Against that background, the prospect of launching a large-scale national plan was losing favor, said one public health expert in frequent contact with the White House’s official coronavirus task force.

Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” said the expert.

On August 01 2020 00:49 Kipsate wrote:
I thought an issue with not reopening schools in America is that a lot of kids rely on school lunch as to not starve.

As for tele-learning, I do and have wondered at points this time why I paid so much (oke its all relative, Dutch college education is cheap af) for college when I could possible access world class education online via Harvard. I have done some of those CS50 things online and man they are so much better then some of the education I got here. I mean there are plenty of reasons why'd you still want live education but man, sometimes I feel robbed compared to what I paid for.

Obviously this is different for kids, in the UK plenty of kids don't have laptops or even internet to learn with I heard.

On July 31 2020 13:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:


I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic with the "government indoctrination center" phrase, but I bet we could convince a few conservative, anti-mask parents that keeping schools closed is a good idea, because something something liberal educators being kept away from impressionable children.

On July 31 2020 21:23 pmh wrote:
The problem is that not everyones home situation is suitable for tele learning. Specially kids from lower social classes often (not all,i dont want to stigmatize) dont have the stability and supportive environment at home that makes tele learning effective. Both parents might need to work full time,they dont have a student nanny from oversees that could help and what not.
School is also much more then just learning whats in the books,its also social development. At schools people from all sorts of different backgrounds mix with eachoter,at least to some extend. This also helps integration and is one step towards decreasing racism and segregation.
(even though i do realize how the school district system in the usa works,which to some extend is quiet segregated already).

cnn,s angle is "trump says yay we say nay" Cnn i watch quiet a bit and that really is their only angle lol.

On July 31 2020 22:58 Garbels wrote:


Thats odd because my imaginary superpredictors who got everyting right in the past say something else.

Namely that you should get you collective heads out of your arses and recognise the invisible enemy in front of you.
Bullet points:

- Strong uniform messaging from leaders as high up as possible.
- "Lockdown" of varying degrees depending on spread, medical capacity and preparedness.
- Phisical distancing when possible and mask otherwise and indoors. Only neccesary trips.
- Use the time to heavily invest in testing and tracing.
- Reopen slowly when circumstances allow (probably widespread frequent testing capacity).

Might seem unrealistic or unobtainable. Not everyone will be on board. But not everyone hast to be.
Many will follow with the right mindset. Don't think us vs them. Its not. Its fighting a war.
Do what you can to buy some time for the scientists and pressure your poiticians. Vaccines will come, treatments get better and better and tests get cheaper and faster (low sensitivity, fast, cheap and frequent ist the way to go).

Opening schools schould be a bipartisan, yes. But safely so. If safety cant be insured you must not open.

Many where laughing at you (USA) before corona. Most are not laughing anymore.
Your are the god damn US of A. Get it together and act like it.

On August 01 2020 01:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:


I agree with you. Those are definitely legitimate concerns, especially when schools put an emphasis on testing and conformity over curiosity, creativity, and problem solving. I think the objectives of schools need to change to better suit the needs and passions of students, although that's done by changing schools, not just closing them down. If you're merely stating that this is a bonus - a convenient byproduct of closing schools for safety reasons anyway - then I see your point. Keep in mind that switching to online/remote learning doesn't guarantee the promotion of the better ideals we would both like to see in education - in some ways, this new restriction could make it harder - but we'll certainly see more teachers required to think outside the box with how they're going to attempt to instruct all their students now. Hopefully, once coronavirus is behind us, we can start changing schools for the better.

On July 31 2020 11:39 Erasme wrote:

Yes, and since they're not your employers, they have even less rights to your personal informations.
Out of curiosity, have you tested positive though ?

On August 01 2020 01:26 Wegandi wrote:


100% serious. Government schools mold obedience, conformity, destroy individual traits and lump everyone together in an egalitarian soup of hell. There's also the fact that not much has changed since they were initially seeded in the mid 1800s. They're there to promote generation after generation of servile and docile adults.

Government schools have more in common with prisons and prison rules (with the same bullying bullshit that always accompanies that environment) than any institution that's concerned with fostering curiosity, knowledge, and epistemology. There's a reason young kids go from curious and seeking information / learning to hating the supposed Government center responsible for so-called "education".

We need informed, curious, critical thinkers with ability to discern and adapt and all evidence points to Government schools producing the exact opposite of those traits.

Channel 2 Action News has confirmed that the report documents COVID-19 cases at the YMCA’s Camp High Harbor on Lake Burton in Rabun County.

According to the report, of the 597 residents who attended the camp, 344 were tested and 260 tested positive for the virus. The camp was only open for four days before being shut down because of the virus, and officials followed all recommended safety protocols.