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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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dankobanana
Croatia238 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15690 Posts
On April 09 2020 01:28 dankobanana wrote: I've recently had an opportunity to talk to Ivan Đikić (a renowned molecular biologist) and Wolfgang Bock (mathematician that specializes in modelling pandemics) about the coronavirus outbreak. We talked about different approaches to combat pandemic, the role of mathematicians and epidemiologists, and vaccine development etc... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC-oXJ6aMSE This is awesome, thank you for posting! | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15690 Posts
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?fbclid=IwAR3hnF1aMot0nKEPlR5mfLgWWMGKe3hhRdUKE7hhaQmvkN801inTCAJTEzY Figure 1A basically tells the whole story. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?fbclid=IwAR3hnF1aMot0nKEPlR5mfLgWWMGKe3hhRdUKE7hhaQmvkN801inTCAJTEzY | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
On April 09 2020 03:06 Mohdoo wrote: Here is a paper studying covid's ability to remain on surfaces. Super creepy. Helps explain why this is strangely transmittable. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?fbclid=IwAR3hnF1aMot0nKEPlR5mfLgWWMGKe3hhRdUKE7hhaQmvkN801inTCAJTEzY Figure 1A basically tells the whole story. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?fbclid=IwAR3hnF1aMot0nKEPlR5mfLgWWMGKe3hhRdUKE7hhaQmvkN801inTCAJTEzY So leave your groceries for two days after shopping? Leaving it in direct sunlight could be better (UV light) but is not tested here. Neither is how refrigeration or freezing is affecting the virus decay times. Can't really draw any conclusions regarding that from the publication imo, as infectiousness is hard to extrapolate from the data and not mentioned in the paper. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15690 Posts
On April 09 2020 03:16 Artisreal wrote: So leave your groceries for two days after shopping? Leaving it in direct sunlight could be better (UV light) but is not tested here. Neither is how refrigeration or freezing is affecting the virus decay times. Can't really draw any conclusions regarding that from the publication imo, as infectiousness is hard to extrapolate from the data and not mentioned in the paper. The paper doesn't discuss infection, just decay. But the comparison to SARS makes for an interesting comparison. Shows us why 'rona is spreading faster than SARS did, at least one component of why. Other reasons too, of course, but the fact that it hangs around so long is a big deal. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Oleo
Netherlands279 Posts
Observe proper hygiene and surfaces are really not a threat. | ||
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Slydie
1922 Posts
On April 09 2020 04:09 Mohdoo wrote: The paper doesn't discuss infection, just decay. But the comparison to SARS makes for an interesting comparison. Shows us why 'rona is spreading faster than SARS did, at least one component of why. Other reasons too, of course, but the fact that it hangs around so long is a big deal. A question I am very curious about is when the virus is actuallly able to infect someone, not just how long you can detect traces of it. This goes for both surfaces and air. The main danger is close contact, even more over time, and the main way of transmission is through fluids. It is not like infected persons spread the virus to entire planes and airports. Is there any research from Korea? They tested a LOT of possibly infected persons, and should know a thing or two about when the virus is likely to be transmitted and when it isn't. | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23255 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
Unfortunately, it seems like re-infection may be possible even after people recover, so we might not see an end to this until a vaccine is widely available (spring 2021?) | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9661 Posts
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/08/police-chiefs-call-on-no-10-to-tighten-uk-lockdown Police chiefs want the government to consider toughening coronavirus lockdown restrictions, the Guardian has learned, as they head into the Easter bank holiday weekend with concerns that a growing minority will flout the rules. More stringent restrictions to prevent people driving long distances are among options supported by at least five chief constables who want enforcement action to be bolstered by clearer and tougher government curbs. Other options include using legislation to enforce the order to limit exercise to once a day. Police have sent speed and traffic camera data to the government showing that road use in some areas last weekend was up nearly 10% compared with the previous weekend. Compliance with lockdown restrictions imposed on 23 March is still high, however, with a minority ignoring it to take walks or exercise their dogs far from home, sometimes in groups. It comes as forces created online forms for the public to report potential lockdown breaches. One announcement of the new system, from Cambridgeshire police, met with a backlash online. | ||
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Vivax
21991 Posts
On April 09 2020 16:26 Jockmcplop wrote: Well its official. Breaking the lockdown in the UK gets you sent to the gulag. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/08/police-chiefs-call-on-no-10-to-tighten-uk-lockdown Bored in lockdown? Want to do something for the common good?You can snitch on your neighbours and passerbies for free now! Saw an article yesterday about reinfection being possible apparently, but it was just inferred from low antibody counts in recovered patients. Will believe it when I see it though, that would be something novel I think. | ||
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria820 Posts
"We have reached the peak" of the pandemic, says Spain's PM Link: https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-04-09-20/h_58a159b4419850fe3c4f422d8a0ad7d8 Ok, this scares me to be honest. It sounds like they think they can predict the future, act like virus is their own weapon and they can control it or something weird like that. How can you know you've reached the peak when there was 4-day decline, then cases rose again and the next day you announce this is the peak? I think anything could happen, so I'm confused by this announcement. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15690 Posts
On April 09 2020 19:03 SC-Shield wrote: Link: https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-04-09-20/h_58a159b4419850fe3c4f422d8a0ad7d8 Ok, this scares me to be honest. It sounds like they think they can predict the future, act like virus is their own weapon and they can control it or something weird like that. How can you know you've reached the peak when there was 4-day decline, then cases rose again and the next day you announce this is the peak? I think anything could happen, so I'm confused by this announcement. Especially when we're not totally 100% set on whether reinfection is possible or not. | ||
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Slydie
1922 Posts
On April 09 2020 23:13 Mohdoo wrote: Especially when we're not totally 100% set on whether reinfection is possible or not. He probably knows more about the situation behind the numbers than you do. Also, a record 4800 were reported as recovered in Spain yesterday, which should be among the highest in one day for any country so far. There has not been any reinfection waved anywhere yet, like in China. Can't we worry about them when they actually happen? | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
On April 09 2020 23:22 Slydie wrote: He probably knows more about the situation behind the numbers than you do. Also, a record 4800 were reported as recovered in Spain yesterday, which should be among the highest in one day for any country so far. There has not been any reinfection waved anywhere yet, like in China. Can't we worry about them when they actually happen? No, a lack of proper planning is what got us into this mess. Planning ahead is absolutely essential. | ||
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