https://www.msn.com/en-ca/lifestyle/smart-living/celebs-do-harm-by-spreading-outlandish-theories/ar-BB12jYOR?li=AAggxAX
Conspiracy theory’s are sure popular these days.
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JimmiC
Canada22638 Posts
April 08 2020 16:15 GMT
#2241
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/lifestyle/smart-living/celebs-do-harm-by-spreading-outlandish-theories/ar-BB12jYOR?li=AAggxAX Conspiracy theory’s are sure popular these days. | ||
dankobanana
237 Posts
April 08 2020 16:28 GMT
#2242
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Mohdoo
United States15081 Posts
April 08 2020 18:01 GMT
#2243
On April 09 2020 01:28 dankobanana wrote: I've recently had an opportunity to talk to Ivan Đikić (a renowned molecular biologist) and Wolfgang Bock (mathematician that specializes in modelling pandemics) about the coronavirus outbreak. We talked about different approaches to combat pandemic, the role of mathematicians and epidemiologists, and vaccine development etc... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC-oXJ6aMSE This is awesome, thank you for posting! | ||
Mohdoo
United States15081 Posts
April 08 2020 18:06 GMT
#2244
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?fbclid=IwAR3hnF1aMot0nKEPlR5mfLgWWMGKe3hhRdUKE7hhaQmvkN801inTCAJTEzY Figure 1A basically tells the whole story. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?fbclid=IwAR3hnF1aMot0nKEPlR5mfLgWWMGKe3hhRdUKE7hhaQmvkN801inTCAJTEzY | ||
Artisreal
Germany9227 Posts
April 08 2020 18:16 GMT
#2245
On April 09 2020 03:06 Mohdoo wrote: Here is a paper studying covid's ability to remain on surfaces. Super creepy. Helps explain why this is strangely transmittable. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?fbclid=IwAR3hnF1aMot0nKEPlR5mfLgWWMGKe3hhRdUKE7hhaQmvkN801inTCAJTEzY Figure 1A basically tells the whole story. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?fbclid=IwAR3hnF1aMot0nKEPlR5mfLgWWMGKe3hhRdUKE7hhaQmvkN801inTCAJTEzY So leave your groceries for two days after shopping? Leaving it in direct sunlight could be better (UV light) but is not tested here. Neither is how refrigeration or freezing is affecting the virus decay times. Can't really draw any conclusions regarding that from the publication imo, as infectiousness is hard to extrapolate from the data and not mentioned in the paper. | ||
Mohdoo
United States15081 Posts
April 08 2020 19:09 GMT
#2246
On April 09 2020 03:16 Artisreal wrote: Show nested quote + On April 09 2020 03:06 Mohdoo wrote: Here is a paper studying covid's ability to remain on surfaces. Super creepy. Helps explain why this is strangely transmittable. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?fbclid=IwAR3hnF1aMot0nKEPlR5mfLgWWMGKe3hhRdUKE7hhaQmvkN801inTCAJTEzY Figure 1A basically tells the whole story. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?fbclid=IwAR3hnF1aMot0nKEPlR5mfLgWWMGKe3hhRdUKE7hhaQmvkN801inTCAJTEzY So leave your groceries for two days after shopping? Leaving it in direct sunlight could be better (UV light) but is not tested here. Neither is how refrigeration or freezing is affecting the virus decay times. Can't really draw any conclusions regarding that from the publication imo, as infectiousness is hard to extrapolate from the data and not mentioned in the paper. The paper doesn't discuss infection, just decay. But the comparison to SARS makes for an interesting comparison. Shows us why 'rona is spreading faster than SARS did, at least one component of why. Other reasons too, of course, but the fact that it hangs around so long is a big deal. | ||
Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 08 2020 20:15 GMT
#2247
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Oleo
Netherlands276 Posts
April 08 2020 20:29 GMT
#2248
Observe proper hygiene and surfaces are really not a threat. | ||
Slydie
1778 Posts
April 08 2020 20:53 GMT
#2249
On April 09 2020 04:09 Mohdoo wrote: Show nested quote + On April 09 2020 03:16 Artisreal wrote: On April 09 2020 03:06 Mohdoo wrote: Here is a paper studying covid's ability to remain on surfaces. Super creepy. Helps explain why this is strangely transmittable. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?fbclid=IwAR3hnF1aMot0nKEPlR5mfLgWWMGKe3hhRdUKE7hhaQmvkN801inTCAJTEzY Figure 1A basically tells the whole story. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?fbclid=IwAR3hnF1aMot0nKEPlR5mfLgWWMGKe3hhRdUKE7hhaQmvkN801inTCAJTEzY So leave your groceries for two days after shopping? Leaving it in direct sunlight could be better (UV light) but is not tested here. Neither is how refrigeration or freezing is affecting the virus decay times. Can't really draw any conclusions regarding that from the publication imo, as infectiousness is hard to extrapolate from the data and not mentioned in the paper. The paper doesn't discuss infection, just decay. But the comparison to SARS makes for an interesting comparison. Shows us why 'rona is spreading faster than SARS did, at least one component of why. Other reasons too, of course, but the fact that it hangs around so long is a big deal. A question I am very curious about is when the virus is actuallly able to infect someone, not just how long you can detect traces of it. This goes for both surfaces and air. The main danger is close contact, even more over time, and the main way of transmission is through fluids. It is not like infected persons spread the virus to entire planes and airports. Is there any research from Korea? They tested a LOT of possibly infected persons, and should know a thing or two about when the virus is likely to be transmitted and when it isn't. | ||
InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3463 Posts
April 08 2020 20:55 GMT
#2250
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JimmiC
Canada22638 Posts
April 09 2020 01:21 GMT
#2251
To keep the good news story theme. There is obviously a lot of terrible coming out but it is nice what some people think of and do. Our local mall also has created a "store" that is free for the people that need it. The different shops have donated stuff and residents can donate money or products as well. And there is a facebook group for people who want others to wave when they walk by or talk from a distance and so on and there has been a effort for Seniors who live alone to join. | ||
GreenHorizons
United States21750 Posts
April 09 2020 02:22 GMT
#2252
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
April 09 2020 05:18 GMT
#2253
Unfortunately, it seems like re-infection may be possible even after people recover, so we might not see an end to this until a vaccine is widely available (spring 2021?) | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom8674 Posts
April 09 2020 07:26 GMT
#2254
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/08/police-chiefs-call-on-no-10-to-tighten-uk-lockdown Police chiefs want the government to consider toughening coronavirus lockdown restrictions, the Guardian has learned, as they head into the Easter bank holiday weekend with concerns that a growing minority will flout the rules. More stringent restrictions to prevent people driving long distances are among options supported by at least five chief constables who want enforcement action to be bolstered by clearer and tougher government curbs. Other options include using legislation to enforce the order to limit exercise to once a day. Police have sent speed and traffic camera data to the government showing that road use in some areas last weekend was up nearly 10% compared with the previous weekend. Compliance with lockdown restrictions imposed on 23 March is still high, however, with a minority ignoring it to take walks or exercise their dogs far from home, sometimes in groups. It comes as forces created online forms for the public to report potential lockdown breaches. One announcement of the new system, from Cambridgeshire police, met with a backlash online. | ||
Vivax
Austria20848 Posts
April 09 2020 09:51 GMT
#2255
On April 09 2020 16:26 Jockmcplop wrote: Well its official. Breaking the lockdown in the UK gets you sent to the gulag. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/08/police-chiefs-call-on-no-10-to-tighten-uk-lockdown Show nested quote + Police chiefs want the government to consider toughening coronavirus lockdown restrictions, the Guardian has learned, as they head into the Easter bank holiday weekend with concerns that a growing minority will flout the rules. More stringent restrictions to prevent people driving long distances are among options supported by at least five chief constables who want enforcement action to be bolstered by clearer and tougher government curbs. Other options include using legislation to enforce the order to limit exercise to once a day. Police have sent speed and traffic camera data to the government showing that road use in some areas last weekend was up nearly 10% compared with the previous weekend. Compliance with lockdown restrictions imposed on 23 March is still high, however, with a minority ignoring it to take walks or exercise their dogs far from home, sometimes in groups. It comes as forces created online forms for the public to report potential lockdown breaches. One announcement of the new system, from Cambridgeshire police, met with a backlash online. Bored in lockdown? Want to do something for the common good?You can snitch on your neighbours and passerbies for free now! Saw an article yesterday about reinfection being possible apparently, but it was just inferred from low antibody counts in recovered patients. Will believe it when I see it though, that would be something novel I think. | ||
SC-Shield
Bulgaria765 Posts
April 09 2020 10:03 GMT
#2256
"We have reached the peak" of the pandemic, says Spain's PM Link: https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-04-09-20/h_58a159b4419850fe3c4f422d8a0ad7d8 Ok, this scares me to be honest. It sounds like they think they can predict the future, act like virus is their own weapon and they can control it or something weird like that. How can you know you've reached the peak when there was 4-day decline, then cases rose again and the next day you announce this is the peak? I think anything could happen, so I'm confused by this announcement. | ||
Mohdoo
United States15081 Posts
April 09 2020 14:13 GMT
#2257
On April 09 2020 19:03 SC-Shield wrote: Link: https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-04-09-20/h_58a159b4419850fe3c4f422d8a0ad7d8 Ok, this scares me to be honest. It sounds like they think they can predict the future, act like virus is their own weapon and they can control it or something weird like that. How can you know you've reached the peak when there was 4-day decline, then cases rose again and the next day you announce this is the peak? I think anything could happen, so I'm confused by this announcement. Especially when we're not totally 100% set on whether reinfection is possible or not. | ||
Slydie
1778 Posts
April 09 2020 14:22 GMT
#2258
On April 09 2020 23:13 Mohdoo wrote: Show nested quote + On April 09 2020 19:03 SC-Shield wrote: "We have reached the peak" of the pandemic, says Spain's PM Link: https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-04-09-20/h_58a159b4419850fe3c4f422d8a0ad7d8 Ok, this scares me to be honest. It sounds like they think they can predict the future, act like virus is their own weapon and they can control it or something weird like that. How can you know you've reached the peak when there was 4-day decline, then cases rose again and the next day you announce this is the peak? I think anything could happen, so I'm confused by this announcement. Especially when we're not totally 100% set on whether reinfection is possible or not. He probably knows more about the situation behind the numbers than you do. Also, a record 4800 were reported as recovered in Spain yesterday, which should be among the highest in one day for any country so far. There has not been any reinfection waved anywhere yet, like in China. Can't we worry about them when they actually happen? | ||
JimmiC
Canada22638 Posts
April 09 2020 14:34 GMT
#2259
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
April 09 2020 14:35 GMT
#2260
On April 09 2020 23:22 Slydie wrote: Show nested quote + On April 09 2020 23:13 Mohdoo wrote: On April 09 2020 19:03 SC-Shield wrote: "We have reached the peak" of the pandemic, says Spain's PM Link: https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-04-09-20/h_58a159b4419850fe3c4f422d8a0ad7d8 Ok, this scares me to be honest. It sounds like they think they can predict the future, act like virus is their own weapon and they can control it or something weird like that. How can you know you've reached the peak when there was 4-day decline, then cases rose again and the next day you announce this is the peak? I think anything could happen, so I'm confused by this announcement. Especially when we're not totally 100% set on whether reinfection is possible or not. He probably knows more about the situation behind the numbers than you do. Also, a record 4800 were reported as recovered in Spain yesterday, which should be among the highest in one day for any country so far. There has not been any reinfection waved anywhere yet, like in China. Can't we worry about them when they actually happen? No, a lack of proper planning is what got us into this mess. Planning ahead is absolutely essential. | ||
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