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On November 15 2018 02:18 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2018 02:11 plasmidghost wrote:On November 15 2018 01:30 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 00:52 Doodsmack wrote:On November 14 2018 13:09 plasmidghost wrote:On November 14 2018 13:02 Womwomwom wrote:On November 14 2018 12:45 plasmidghost wrote:On November 14 2018 12:30 Womwomwom wrote:
They've already indicted several people within Trump's inner circle so its already been more "productive" than all the Benghazi hearings put together. The only narrative that might get blown is that they can't figure if Trump made any direct effort to collude. That doesn't mean Donald Trump Jr can't get busted for talking to a foreign power about "adoptions". I'm 99% sure they won't, but I hope the Dems don't make a huge fuss should the investigation not show collusion by Trump's campaign (I should clarify that I mean some of the more progressive Dems that just got elected). I feel like some people will try to say the investigation wasn't legitimate and we've already had enough attacks on institutions like the FBI and the Justice Department by the Republicans that having those allegation thrown by the Dems will make things worse Just saw the above post, looks like I am missing that part about we knowing there being attempted colusion. What specifically has been revealed? Donald Trump Jr had a meeting with people connected with the Russian oligarchy to talk about the "adoption of Russian children" (in other words, the Magnitsky Act). Which turned into a meeting to see someone who "might have information helpful to the campaign." Which turned into this tweet: Then into this tweet: I think its pretty clear cut that someone in the campaign at least attempted to collude with a foreign power and there was some quid pro quo business going on. It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together, they were simultaneously talking about the Magnitsky Act and talking about obtaining negative information about a political opponent. I cannot believe I forgot about this, I guess it just goes to show how many thoroughly crazy stories got reported that this still isn't a talking point, although I'm sure Mueller hasn't forgotten I'm actually curious on the laws regarding this. Is it legal to get dirt on a political rival from someone not affiliated with any government? I assume if they were affiliated with any foreign government, even if they were an ally, it would be illegal And let's not forget that the Don Jr meeting started at 4 pm, and trump tweeted about hillarys missing emails for the first time at 4:40 pm. If Don Jr. gets charged, his text logs to his father are going to be very interesting. I hope that they get released to the public. Surely there's no reason for them not to be, right? i.e. they wouldn't fall under any classified system since this was before Trump was president They are not classified. They would be made public during a trial as well. They also might be included in any final report to congress. But this all assumes those texts exist and the team can obtain them. Going after Trump Jr. and his records is going all in and forcing Trump to respond or let his kid get charged.
If we don't hold people accountable why would they stop?
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On November 15 2018 02:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2018 02:18 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:11 plasmidghost wrote:On November 15 2018 01:30 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 00:52 Doodsmack wrote:On November 14 2018 13:09 plasmidghost wrote:On November 14 2018 13:02 Womwomwom wrote:On November 14 2018 12:45 plasmidghost wrote:On November 14 2018 12:30 Womwomwom wrote:
They've already indicted several people within Trump's inner circle so its already been more "productive" than all the Benghazi hearings put together. The only narrative that might get blown is that they can't figure if Trump made any direct effort to collude. That doesn't mean Donald Trump Jr can't get busted for talking to a foreign power about "adoptions". I'm 99% sure they won't, but I hope the Dems don't make a huge fuss should the investigation not show collusion by Trump's campaign (I should clarify that I mean some of the more progressive Dems that just got elected). I feel like some people will try to say the investigation wasn't legitimate and we've already had enough attacks on institutions like the FBI and the Justice Department by the Republicans that having those allegation thrown by the Dems will make things worse Just saw the above post, looks like I am missing that part about we knowing there being attempted colusion. What specifically has been revealed? Donald Trump Jr had a meeting with people connected with the Russian oligarchy to talk about the "adoption of Russian children" (in other words, the Magnitsky Act). Which turned into a meeting to see someone who "might have information helpful to the campaign." Which turned into this tweet: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/886950594220568576Then into this tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1026084333315153924I think its pretty clear cut that someone in the campaign at least attempted to collude with a foreign power and there was some quid pro quo business going on. It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together, they were simultaneously talking about the Magnitsky Act and talking about obtaining negative information about a political opponent. I cannot believe I forgot about this, I guess it just goes to show how many thoroughly crazy stories got reported that this still isn't a talking point, although I'm sure Mueller hasn't forgotten I'm actually curious on the laws regarding this. Is it legal to get dirt on a political rival from someone not affiliated with any government? I assume if they were affiliated with any foreign government, even if they were an ally, it would be illegal And let's not forget that the Don Jr meeting started at 4 pm, and trump tweeted about hillarys missing emails for the first time at 4:40 pm. If Don Jr. gets charged, his text logs to his father are going to be very interesting. I hope that they get released to the public. Surely there's no reason for them not to be, right? i.e. they wouldn't fall under any classified system since this was before Trump was president They are not classified. They would be made public during a trial as well. They also might be included in any final report to congress. But this all assumes those texts exist and the team can obtain them. Going after Trump Jr. and his records is going all in and forcing Trump to respond or let his kid get charged. If we don't hold people accountable why would they stop?
I didn't mean to imply they would stop. Just that they need to pick their moment. In Starcraft terms, they gotta hit their timing.
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On November 15 2018 02:49 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2018 02:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 02:18 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:11 plasmidghost wrote:On November 15 2018 01:30 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 00:52 Doodsmack wrote:On November 14 2018 13:09 plasmidghost wrote:On November 14 2018 13:02 Womwomwom wrote:On November 14 2018 12:45 plasmidghost wrote:On November 14 2018 12:30 Womwomwom wrote:
They've already indicted several people within Trump's inner circle so its already been more "productive" than all the Benghazi hearings put together. The only narrative that might get blown is that they can't figure if Trump made any direct effort to collude. That doesn't mean Donald Trump Jr can't get busted for talking to a foreign power about "adoptions". I'm 99% sure they won't, but I hope the Dems don't make a huge fuss should the investigation not show collusion by Trump's campaign (I should clarify that I mean some of the more progressive Dems that just got elected). I feel like some people will try to say the investigation wasn't legitimate and we've already had enough attacks on institutions like the FBI and the Justice Department by the Republicans that having those allegation thrown by the Dems will make things worse Just saw the above post, looks like I am missing that part about we knowing there being attempted colusion. What specifically has been revealed? Donald Trump Jr had a meeting with people connected with the Russian oligarchy to talk about the "adoption of Russian children" (in other words, the Magnitsky Act). Which turned into a meeting to see someone who "might have information helpful to the campaign." Which turned into this tweet: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/886950594220568576Then into this tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1026084333315153924I think its pretty clear cut that someone in the campaign at least attempted to collude with a foreign power and there was some quid pro quo business going on. It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together, they were simultaneously talking about the Magnitsky Act and talking about obtaining negative information about a political opponent. I cannot believe I forgot about this, I guess it just goes to show how many thoroughly crazy stories got reported that this still isn't a talking point, although I'm sure Mueller hasn't forgotten I'm actually curious on the laws regarding this. Is it legal to get dirt on a political rival from someone not affiliated with any government? I assume if they were affiliated with any foreign government, even if they were an ally, it would be illegal And let's not forget that the Don Jr meeting started at 4 pm, and trump tweeted about hillarys missing emails for the first time at 4:40 pm. If Don Jr. gets charged, his text logs to his father are going to be very interesting. I hope that they get released to the public. Surely there's no reason for them not to be, right? i.e. they wouldn't fall under any classified system since this was before Trump was president They are not classified. They would be made public during a trial as well. They also might be included in any final report to congress. But this all assumes those texts exist and the team can obtain them. Going after Trump Jr. and his records is going all in and forcing Trump to respond or let his kid get charged. If we don't hold people accountable why would they stop? I didn't mean to imply they would stop. Just that they need to pick their moment. In Starcraft terms, they gotta hit their timing.
When democrats are back in power in two years (assuming that even happens)? What timing are we talking about here. When the Republicans get tired of winning?
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On November 15 2018 03:05 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2018 02:49 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 02:18 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:11 plasmidghost wrote:On November 15 2018 01:30 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 00:52 Doodsmack wrote:On November 14 2018 13:09 plasmidghost wrote:On November 14 2018 13:02 Womwomwom wrote:On November 14 2018 12:45 plasmidghost wrote:
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I'm 99% sure they won't, but I hope the Dems don't make a huge fuss should the investigation not show collusion by Trump's campaign (I should clarify that I mean some of the more progressive Dems that just got elected). I feel like some people will try to say the investigation wasn't legitimate and we've already had enough attacks on institutions like the FBI and the Justice Department by the Republicans that having those allegation thrown by the Dems will make things worse
Just saw the above post, looks like I am missing that part about we knowing there being attempted colusion. What specifically has been revealed? Donald Trump Jr had a meeting with people connected with the Russian oligarchy to talk about the "adoption of Russian children" (in other words, the Magnitsky Act). Which turned into a meeting to see someone who "might have information helpful to the campaign." Which turned into this tweet: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/886950594220568576Then into this tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1026084333315153924I think its pretty clear cut that someone in the campaign at least attempted to collude with a foreign power and there was some quid pro quo business going on. It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together, they were simultaneously talking about the Magnitsky Act and talking about obtaining negative information about a political opponent. I cannot believe I forgot about this, I guess it just goes to show how many thoroughly crazy stories got reported that this still isn't a talking point, although I'm sure Mueller hasn't forgotten I'm actually curious on the laws regarding this. Is it legal to get dirt on a political rival from someone not affiliated with any government? I assume if they were affiliated with any foreign government, even if they were an ally, it would be illegal And let's not forget that the Don Jr meeting started at 4 pm, and trump tweeted about hillarys missing emails for the first time at 4:40 pm. If Don Jr. gets charged, his text logs to his father are going to be very interesting. I hope that they get released to the public. Surely there's no reason for them not to be, right? i.e. they wouldn't fall under any classified system since this was before Trump was president They are not classified. They would be made public during a trial as well. They also might be included in any final report to congress. But this all assumes those texts exist and the team can obtain them. Going after Trump Jr. and his records is going all in and forcing Trump to respond or let his kid get charged. If we don't hold people accountable why would they stop? I didn't mean to imply they would stop. Just that they need to pick their moment. In Starcraft terms, they gotta hit their timing. When democrats are back in power in two years (assuming that even happens)? What timing are we talking about here. When the Republicans get tired of winning?
I am talking about the Russia investigation, not Congress. Congress's investigations wouldn't dig into a private citizen's phone records.
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On November 15 2018 03:19 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2018 03:05 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 02:49 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 02:18 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:11 plasmidghost wrote:On November 15 2018 01:30 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 00:52 Doodsmack wrote:On November 14 2018 13:09 plasmidghost wrote:On November 14 2018 13:02 Womwomwom wrote:[quote] Donald Trump Jr had a meeting with people connected with the Russian oligarchy to talk about the "adoption of Russian children" (in other words, the Magnitsky Act). Which turned into a meeting to see someone who "might have information helpful to the campaign." Which turned into this tweet: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/886950594220568576Then into this tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1026084333315153924I think its pretty clear cut that someone in the campaign at least attempted to collude with a foreign power and there was some quid pro quo business going on. It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together, they were simultaneously talking about the Magnitsky Act and talking about obtaining negative information about a political opponent. I cannot believe I forgot about this, I guess it just goes to show how many thoroughly crazy stories got reported that this still isn't a talking point, although I'm sure Mueller hasn't forgotten I'm actually curious on the laws regarding this. Is it legal to get dirt on a political rival from someone not affiliated with any government? I assume if they were affiliated with any foreign government, even if they were an ally, it would be illegal And let's not forget that the Don Jr meeting started at 4 pm, and trump tweeted about hillarys missing emails for the first time at 4:40 pm. If Don Jr. gets charged, his text logs to his father are going to be very interesting. I hope that they get released to the public. Surely there's no reason for them not to be, right? i.e. they wouldn't fall under any classified system since this was before Trump was president They are not classified. They would be made public during a trial as well. They also might be included in any final report to congress. But this all assumes those texts exist and the team can obtain them. Going after Trump Jr. and his records is going all in and forcing Trump to respond or let his kid get charged. If we don't hold people accountable why would they stop? I didn't mean to imply they would stop. Just that they need to pick their moment. In Starcraft terms, they gotta hit their timing. When democrats are back in power in two years (assuming that even happens)? What timing are we talking about here. When the Republicans get tired of winning? I am talking about the Russia investigation, not Congress. Congress's investigations wouldn't dig into a private citizen's phone records.
Mueller is just handing off a report. He isn't indicting anyone even if it was 100% certain of wrongdoing.
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On November 15 2018 03:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2018 03:19 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 03:05 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 02:49 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 02:18 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:11 plasmidghost wrote:On November 15 2018 01:30 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 00:52 Doodsmack wrote:On November 14 2018 13:09 plasmidghost wrote:
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I cannot believe I forgot about this, I guess it just goes to show how many thoroughly crazy stories got reported that this still isn't a talking point, although I'm sure Mueller hasn't forgotten
I'm actually curious on the laws regarding this. Is it legal to get dirt on a political rival from someone not affiliated with any government? I assume if they were affiliated with any foreign government, even if they were an ally, it would be illegal And let's not forget that the Don Jr meeting started at 4 pm, and trump tweeted about hillarys missing emails for the first time at 4:40 pm. If Don Jr. gets charged, his text logs to his father are going to be very interesting. I hope that they get released to the public. Surely there's no reason for them not to be, right? i.e. they wouldn't fall under any classified system since this was before Trump was president They are not classified. They would be made public during a trial as well. They also might be included in any final report to congress. But this all assumes those texts exist and the team can obtain them. Going after Trump Jr. and his records is going all in and forcing Trump to respond or let his kid get charged. If we don't hold people accountable why would they stop? I didn't mean to imply they would stop. Just that they need to pick their moment. In Starcraft terms, they gotta hit their timing. When democrats are back in power in two years (assuming that even happens)? What timing are we talking about here. When the Republicans get tired of winning? I am talking about the Russia investigation, not Congress. Congress's investigations wouldn't dig into a private citizen's phone records. Mueller is just handing off a report. He isn't indicting anyone even if it was 100% certain of wrongdoing.
They most defiantly indicted and referred cases to state AGs offices for indictment. It is written into the scope of his investigation. If Trump Jr. committed a crime, Mueller would either refer it to an AG's office or put the case before the grand jury that is impaneled.
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That would be some next-level nepotism if Trump pardoned his own son should Mueller recommend charges be filed
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On November 15 2018 03:41 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2018 03:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 03:19 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 03:05 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 02:49 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 02:18 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:11 plasmidghost wrote:On November 15 2018 01:30 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 00:52 Doodsmack wrote:
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And let's not forget that the Don Jr meeting started at 4 pm, and trump tweeted about hillarys missing emails for the first time at 4:40 pm. If Don Jr. gets charged, his text logs to his father are going to be very interesting. I hope that they get released to the public. Surely there's no reason for them not to be, right? i.e. they wouldn't fall under any classified system since this was before Trump was president They are not classified. They would be made public during a trial as well. They also might be included in any final report to congress. But this all assumes those texts exist and the team can obtain them. Going after Trump Jr. and his records is going all in and forcing Trump to respond or let his kid get charged. If we don't hold people accountable why would they stop? I didn't mean to imply they would stop. Just that they need to pick their moment. In Starcraft terms, they gotta hit their timing. When democrats are back in power in two years (assuming that even happens)? What timing are we talking about here. When the Republicans get tired of winning? I am talking about the Russia investigation, not Congress. Congress's investigations wouldn't dig into a private citizen's phone records. Mueller is just handing off a report. He isn't indicting anyone even if it was 100% certain of wrongdoing. They most defiantly indicted and referred cases to state AGs offices for indictment. It is written into the scope of his investigation. If Trump Jr. committed a crime, Mueller would either refer it to an AG's office or put the case before the grand jury that is impaneled.
You're talking about holding off on indicting until the proper timing and then I lost all coherence of this conversation. If he's waiting for the proper timing, but he isn't waiting for congress/president to change I don't understand what he could be waiting for. Does he need more evidence than Don Jr. openly stating he did illegal things?
Mueller hasn't indicted Don Jr and it seems 100% clear at this point that he should be is my point.
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On November 15 2018 04:02 plasmidghost wrote:
That would be some next-level nepotism if Trump pardoned his own son should Mueller recommend charges be filed
Are you doubting this would happen for even a second?
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On November 15 2018 04:06 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2018 04:02 plasmidghost wrote:
That would be some next-level nepotism if Trump pardoned his own son should Mueller recommend charges be filed Are you doubting this would happen for even a second?
Not really, I'm very confident he would do that and I am also confident there would be no repercussions from the GOP
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On November 15 2018 04:04 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2018 03:41 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 03:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 03:19 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 03:05 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 02:49 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 02:18 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:11 plasmidghost wrote:On November 15 2018 01:30 Plansix wrote:
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If Don Jr. gets charged, his text logs to his father are going to be very interesting. I hope that they get released to the public. Surely there's no reason for them not to be, right? i.e. they wouldn't fall under any classified system since this was before Trump was president They are not classified. They would be made public during a trial as well. They also might be included in any final report to congress. But this all assumes those texts exist and the team can obtain them. Going after Trump Jr. and his records is going all in and forcing Trump to respond or let his kid get charged. If we don't hold people accountable why would they stop? I didn't mean to imply they would stop. Just that they need to pick their moment. In Starcraft terms, they gotta hit their timing. When democrats are back in power in two years (assuming that even happens)? What timing are we talking about here. When the Republicans get tired of winning? I am talking about the Russia investigation, not Congress. Congress's investigations wouldn't dig into a private citizen's phone records. Mueller is just handing off a report. He isn't indicting anyone even if it was 100% certain of wrongdoing. They most defiantly indicted and referred cases to state AGs offices for indictment. It is written into the scope of his investigation. If Trump Jr. committed a crime, Mueller would either refer it to an AG's office or put the case before the grand jury that is impaneled. You're talking about holding off on indicting until the proper timing and then I lost all coherence of this conversation. If he's waiting for the proper timing, but he isn't waiting for congress/president to change I don't understand what he could be waiting for. Does he need more evidence than Don Jr. openly stating he did illegal things? Mueller hasn't indicted Don Jr and it seems 100% clear at this point that he should be is my point.
To be honest, until the rest of the investigation is finished and his report is read to submit to congress. If they have enough evidence to charge Don Jr, it would be one of the last things they would do. You don’t recommend to charge the President’s son until you are done with everything else.
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On November 15 2018 04:11 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2018 04:04 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 03:41 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 03:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 03:19 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 03:05 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 02:49 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 02:18 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:11 plasmidghost wrote:
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I hope that they get released to the public. Surely there's no reason for them not to be, right? i.e. they wouldn't fall under any classified system since this was before Trump was president They are not classified. They would be made public during a trial as well. They also might be included in any final report to congress. But this all assumes those texts exist and the team can obtain them. Going after Trump Jr. and his records is going all in and forcing Trump to respond or let his kid get charged. If we don't hold people accountable why would they stop? I didn't mean to imply they would stop. Just that they need to pick their moment. In Starcraft terms, they gotta hit their timing. When democrats are back in power in two years (assuming that even happens)? What timing are we talking about here. When the Republicans get tired of winning? I am talking about the Russia investigation, not Congress. Congress's investigations wouldn't dig into a private citizen's phone records. Mueller is just handing off a report. He isn't indicting anyone even if it was 100% certain of wrongdoing. They most defiantly indicted and referred cases to state AGs offices for indictment. It is written into the scope of his investigation. If Trump Jr. committed a crime, Mueller would either refer it to an AG's office or put the case before the grand jury that is impaneled. You're talking about holding off on indicting until the proper timing and then I lost all coherence of this conversation. If he's waiting for the proper timing, but he isn't waiting for congress/president to change I don't understand what he could be waiting for. Does he need more evidence than Don Jr. openly stating he did illegal things? Mueller hasn't indicted Don Jr and it seems 100% clear at this point that he should be is my point. To be honest, until the rest of the investigation is finished and his report is read to submit to congress. If they have enough evidence to charge Don Jr, it would be one of the last things they would do. You don’t recommend to charge the President’s son until you are done with everything else.
and this is the accountability we need to figure out in this country. We've got a governor who rigged an election as secretary of state and no way to hold him accountable. We've got districts for representation that were ruled unconstitutional back in 2011 that are still in use in 2018. Waiting to fix things until the right timing doesn't seem to be working out very well.
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On November 15 2018 04:30 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2018 04:11 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 04:04 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 03:41 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 03:37 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 03:19 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 03:05 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 02:49 Plansix wrote:On November 15 2018 02:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On November 15 2018 02:18 Plansix wrote:
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They are not classified. They would be made public during a trial as well. They also might be included in any final report to congress.
But this all assumes those texts exist and the team can obtain them. Going after Trump Jr. and his records is going all in and forcing Trump to respond or let his kid get charged. If we don't hold people accountable why would they stop? I didn't mean to imply they would stop. Just that they need to pick their moment. In Starcraft terms, they gotta hit their timing. When democrats are back in power in two years (assuming that even happens)? What timing are we talking about here. When the Republicans get tired of winning? I am talking about the Russia investigation, not Congress. Congress's investigations wouldn't dig into a private citizen's phone records. Mueller is just handing off a report. He isn't indicting anyone even if it was 100% certain of wrongdoing. They most defiantly indicted and referred cases to state AGs offices for indictment. It is written into the scope of his investigation. If Trump Jr. committed a crime, Mueller would either refer it to an AG's office or put the case before the grand jury that is impaneled. You're talking about holding off on indicting until the proper timing and then I lost all coherence of this conversation. If he's waiting for the proper timing, but he isn't waiting for congress/president to change I don't understand what he could be waiting for. Does he need more evidence than Don Jr. openly stating he did illegal things? Mueller hasn't indicted Don Jr and it seems 100% clear at this point that he should be is my point. To be honest, until the rest of the investigation is finished and his report is read to submit to congress. If they have enough evidence to charge Don Jr, it would be one of the last things they would do. You don’t recommend to charge the President’s son until you are done with everything else. and this is the accountability we need to figure out in this country. We've got a governor who rigged an election as secretary of state and no way to hold him accountable. We've got districts for representation that were ruled unconstitutional back in 2011 that are still in use in 2018. Waiting to fix things until the right timing doesn't seem to be working out very well.
A: The Mueller team couldn’t drop anything until after the election per DOJ rules.
B: You only get one shot at doing this stuff. So it is either do it right or don’t do it. If there are other aspects of the investigation that need to be finished up, they should do that before playing chicken with the President. A President who has the ability to end the investigation. There are other people involved with this beyond Don Jr.
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As we get closer to the final count of seats, the number exceeds all modern elections. We need to travel back to the Nixon(because it’s always Nixon) to find a shift of the house seats this size.
So people might have been disappointed with the senate showing, but this election has been the biggest shift in the House in a generation.
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Republicans gained like +63 in 2010? This is the biggest shift to democrats since Nixon yes, but your text is inaccurate
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On November 15 2018 05:19 KOFgokuon wrote:
Republicans gained like +63 in 2010? This is the biggest shift to democrats since Nixon yes, but your text is inaccurate
"Democrats' gains in last week's midterms mark the most House seats gained by Democrats since the wave election following Watergate."
Seems pretty accurate to me.
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Interesting turn of events... Fox News has now added their support behind CNN's suit against the WH for revoking Jim Acosta's Press Credentials. Assuming it's a business, anything that affects CNN affects FOX in the future. Apparently the_d already calling them out for "turning their backs on them". Kinda funny.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-supports-cnn-lawsuit-against-trump-acosta-press-pass-2018-11
Fox News has thrown its support behind CNN's lawsuit against the Trump administration to win back the White House correspondent Jim Acosta's press credentials in a stunning move for a cable news network whose on-air personalities have often criticized CNN and Acosta.
Fox News President Jay Wallace said in a statement that the company would file an amicus brief — also known as a friend-of-the-court brief — with the US District Court in Washington, DC, in support of CNN.
Wallace also accused the Trump administration of weaponizing the press passes by depriving a CNN journalist of one.
"FOX News supports CNN in its legal effort to regain its White House reporter's press credential," Wallace said in his statement, adding, "While we don't condone the growing antagonistic tone by both the President and the press at recent media avails, we do support a free press, access and open exchanges for the American people."
In a statement on Wednesday morning, CNN thanked Fox News for its support.
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Electing the first black president that the start of a massive recession and then spending two years on a single piece of wildly unpopular legislation(though necessary) really lit a fire under Republican’s asses. And they received a whole lot of money from rich people who did not want their Bush Era tax cuts to go away.
Edit: Zero surprises that Fox news backed up CNN.
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I'm glad Fox is backing up CNN here, I wonder if this is the first time they've stood up to Trump since his election
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Wasn't there another time when they tried to block a bunch of liberal media outlets from a dinner or something?
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