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On October 25 2018 03:45 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +Melanie wore the “i don’t care” jacket to the child abuse centers. It’s a bit of a stretch to frame her as a good person.
That's your spin on that jacket. There are explanations that, taking other statements and actions of her into account, make considerably more sense. That said: i never said she's a great first lady, i said (especially compared to the rest of the clan) she's at least somewhat of a decent human being.
?? Reading the text isn’t spin.
If someone shows up to an ongoing tragedy in a jacket proclaiming that they don’t care it’s not spinning anything to infer that the message on the jacket is their message. She’s a grown woman, she can presumably read and dress herself. At least give her the dignity of acknowledgment when she makes these statements.
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On October 25 2018 03:48 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2018 03:46 Gorsameth wrote:On October 25 2018 03:45 m4ini wrote:On October 25 2018 03:39 KwarK wrote:On October 25 2018 03:36 m4ini wrote:On October 25 2018 03:26 Plansix wrote:
Not sure I care, tbh. They can’t condemn the attacks and then call for their opponents to be jailed the next day. Cruz called for Beto to be locked up last night and then condemned the attacks this morning. That is them saying they would prefer not to have bombs mailed to them, but its ok if a few get mailed to the democrats so long as Republicans win an election. Ahm, yeah, obviously there's no difference between "lock her up" and "blow her up". Come on now. Accusing your opponent to be criminal is normal in the USA. Literally. Both democrats and republicans do it, that's fair game and down to (if true-ish) authorities to figure out. That's a long way away from "second amendment people" and "blowing people to smithereens". In regards to claims of a false flag event, i mean.. Of course. Lets be entirely non-facetious (i don't know what the word for opposite of facetious is) and realistic: that was entirely expected. It literally is what's happening for two years now, so no surprise there. Only thing i'm asking myself is, is that the same guy that sent a bomb to Soros, or is it a group doing it. They’ve been insisting these are enemies of the people who need to be stopped by whatever means necessary for a while now. It’s not like Trump didn’t call for Hillary’s assassination while campaigning. No. That was Trump. Not "the republicans", and not Melania. I absolutely haven't forgotten what Trump called for (that's what i meant by "second amendment people", that was somewhere in the quote in question). I'm pretty sure that scumbags like Cruz for example would be on board with that, McCain wouldn't have been. So to simply say "well all republicans asked for dems to be blown up" is a bit like saying "all dems are okay with skewing political/democratic process" like they did with Bernie. Generalisation doesn't work here: republicans won't go away. You will always have to deal with them, and the less hostile you do so, the easier and better it'll be at some point once "balance is restored again". While the political landscape in the USA looks a bit like Verdun in 1916, at some point people have to get objective again. When its the head of your party its going to reflect on you whether you like it or not. To some extend, sure. Arguing that every republican is fine with blowing up people because trump asked for it/something similar is retarded. How long can you silently stand behind your leader before you have to accept that you bear responsibility for his actions?
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At some point asking me to give Trump, Melanie and their brood the benefit of the doubt is asking for voluntary stupidity. Except their tiny child. He seems pretty cool.
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To keep things light, I give you a photo of then package with the bomb and commentary from the leading authority on Florida’s culture. We are dealing with a criminal mastermind who doesn’t know the post office will sell you a cardboard box.
Edit: also, that is one very light bomb or there are a bunch more stamps on the other side of the package.
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I have "republican friends" who post about being armed and ready to go to war with the "left". It's not to be taken lightly.
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On October 25 2018 04:14 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I have "republican friends" who post about being armed and ready to go to war with the "left". It's not to be taken lightly.
Same here, it's not at all an uncommon sentiment among folks I went to high school with.
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On October 25 2018 04:13 Plansix wrote:To keep things light, I give you a photo of then package with the bomb and commentary from the leading authority on Florida’s culture. We are dealing with a criminal mastermind who doesn’t know the post office will sell you a cardboard box. Edit: also, that is one very light bomb or there are a bunch more stamps on the other side of the package. https://twitter.com/_FloridaMan/status/1055172350277079040
Or it didn't go through the postage system, considering that there's no postmark on it (as was pointed out in the twitterfeed) - could be "camouflage" to make it seem it went through the system so whoever is checking things doesn't just see an ominous brown envelope. Naive, but that could at least be an explanation.
In regards to violent republicans, i'd like to point out that in this very thread people asked for violence against people that had a different (admittedly, retarded) opinion of their own.
Glass house and shit. Yeah yeah, spare me the "but when i did it it was different" song, either you're for or against violence. You don't get to complain about one side picking up arms while asking for those people to be turned into pizza sauce. But, lets not get into an argument as to how violence against a certain political view (regardless of how indeed stupid it is) is fine, but only for one side.
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Lol, speaking of stupid glass houses, you can't complain about people lumping all Republicans together and then do exactly the same thing when trying to mount your high horse via lumping everyone in this thread together. Or rather, you can, but it's really transparently stupid.
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On October 25 2018 04:24 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2018 04:13 Plansix wrote:To keep things light, I give you a photo of then package with the bomb and commentary from the leading authority on Florida’s culture. We are dealing with a criminal mastermind who doesn’t know the post office will sell you a cardboard box. Edit: also, that is one very light bomb or there are a bunch more stamps on the other side of the package. https://twitter.com/_FloridaMan/status/1055172350277079040 Or it didn't go through the postage system, considering that there's no postmark on it (as was pointed out in the twitterfeed) - could be "camouflage" to make it seem it went through the system so whoever is checking things doesn't just see an ominous brown envelope. Naive, but that could at least be an explanation. In regards to violent republicans, i'd like to point out that in this very thread people asked for violence against people that had a different (admittedly, retarded) opinion of their own. Glass house and shit. Yeah yeah, spare me the "but when i did it it was different" song, either you're for or against violence. You don't get to complain about one side picking up arms while asking for those people to be turned into pizza sauce. But, lets not get into an argument as to how violence against a certain political view (regardless of how indeed stupid it is) is fine, but only for one side.
Yes, but the state is spelt wrong. But they got that zip code right, which is all that matters to the post office.
I’m not going to engage with vague claims coupled with a dismissal of nuance. There is a huge difference between punching a skin head at a punk show and sending a pipe bomb.
And there is room for a frank discussion when violence is inevitable because people have been pushed to far. The LA riots in the 1990s is a prime example of this. Violence is bad, but it’s not like LA didn’t have decades to address the problems within their police force.
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On October 25 2018 04:00 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2018 03:45 m4ini wrote:Melanie wore the “i don’t care” jacket to the child abuse centers. It’s a bit of a stretch to frame her as a good person.
That's your spin on that jacket. There are explanations that, taking other statements and actions of her into account, make considerably more sense. That said: i never said she's a great first lady, i said (especially compared to the rest of the clan) she's at least somewhat of a decent human being. ?? Reading the text isn’t spin. If someone shows up to an ongoing tragedy in a jacket proclaiming that they don’t care it’s not spinning anything to infer that the message on the jacket is their message. She’s a grown woman, she can presumably read and dress herself. At least give her the dignity of acknowledgment when she makes these statements.
A grown woman who is a FORMER MODEL.
You'd have thought a model would pay some attention to her outfit, no? Maybe even think about the message it sends?
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The New York Times reports that China has been listening to the President’s phone calls. They have informed the President, who has refused to secure his phone. They hope he doesn’t discuss classified information.
The Republicans were upset that Clinton might have exposed classified information to being stolen. I can only hope the Democrats open up a similar investigation to assure our national secrets are safe.
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On October 25 2018 09:35 JimmiC wrote:
Some of this shit is political that comes up and some is just stupid. Like how does trump not understand security. Hell it is something he campaigns about. This has nothing to do with dems or rebs. This is Donald being arrogant and stupid.
When the Republicans campaign on how serious InfoSec is, and launch 9 investigations into Benghazi over InfoSec, and then the Republicans cover for Trump as he casually uses a monitored line to evade recording act requirements, yes. This is a Republican and Democrat issue. A sane congress would investigate what kinds of secrets DJT might have leaked over his private phone line. But because we have a Republican congress, they will do their best to spin for his reckless disregard for InfoSec.
Also, anyone who was on here talking about how serious it was that HRC had a private email server (that was never breached) need to be very, very concerned that the President is casually using easily monitored lines.
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Well, not sure why they’d bother sending a fake bomb to Bill and Hillary clintons home.Hillary and Bill aren’t assets to the midterm campaigns.Establishment dems are on the nose, especially Bill after the whole #metoo stuff.Literally no benefit.
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This whole pipe bomb thing is so weird. So ineffective. So poorly planned. How is this so poorly planned yet no one arrested yet? I feel like there should be some huge manhunt right now and it's like nothing happened.
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On October 25 2018 10:33 Mohdoo wrote:
This whole pipe bomb thing is so weird. So ineffective. So poorly planned. How is this so poorly planned yet no one arrested yet? I feel like there should be some huge manhunt right now and it's like nothing happened.
Why do you think there isn't a huge hunt for those responsible?
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On October 25 2018 10:51 BlueBird. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2018 10:33 Mohdoo wrote:
This whole pipe bomb thing is so weird. So ineffective. So poorly planned. How is this so poorly planned yet no one arrested yet? I feel like there should be some huge manhunt right now and it's like nothing happened. Why do you think there isn't a huge hunt for those responsible?
While not speaking for him, it's a common thing where people assume because they aren't hearing about something that's being investigated that means it isn't being investigated.
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On October 25 2018 10:51 BlueBird. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2018 10:33 Mohdoo wrote:
This whole pipe bomb thing is so weird. So ineffective. So poorly planned. How is this so poorly planned yet no one arrested yet? I feel like there should be some huge manhunt right now and it's like nothing happened. Why do you think there isn't a huge hunt for those responsible?
I suppose I am more so comparing this to, say, the Boston bombers. I don't doubt there is a big effort to find the guy. It's just that I am not seeing nearly the obsession I expected.
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On October 25 2018 10:59 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2018 10:51 BlueBird. wrote:On October 25 2018 10:33 Mohdoo wrote:
This whole pipe bomb thing is so weird. So ineffective. So poorly planned. How is this so poorly planned yet no one arrested yet? I feel like there should be some huge manhunt right now and it's like nothing happened. Why do you think there isn't a huge hunt for those responsible? I suppose I am more so comparing this to, say, the Boston bombers. I don't doubt there is a big effort to find the guy. It's just that I am not seeing nearly the obsession I expected.
Boston Marathon Bombers? That one was much easier to track for the media. Hard to do a door to door manhunt like they did in boston when for all we know they haven't narrowed down the guilty party to even a state yet  .
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It took over a month to find the Boston bombers and then we needed to shut down the entire city just to catch them. Patience people.
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