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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5226 Posts
January 22 2026 09:27 GMT
#109001
There was no reason to be a big bully regarding Greenland, he could've always:
A) upped security there if he wanted to
B) made some kind of trade deal there
Simply because we're allies. Something Trump still fails to understand in his puny zero sum riddled brain.
The idea that strong arming was necessary because he's some kind of daddy issues riddled dementing elderly man who still believes only strong men get what they want by being loud and threatening is absurd. It did, however, get us distracted from the Epstein files for a hit though.
So, where are the Epstein files? Let's get this guy impeached please. And let's let his criminal cabinet get thrown in jail forever while we're at it.
Taxes are for Terrans
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17897 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-22 13:03:09
January 22 2026 12:15 GMT
#109002
i wonder what the new weapons are that Trump said he can't talk about?
"We have weapons that nobody knows about, and I say it's probably good not to talk about it, but we have some amazing weapons... it’s something I don't wanna... nobody else has it."
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/us-has-secret-weapons-unknown-to-world-trump-1768984141.html

On the flip side, perhaps, the USA claims to have weapons that they do not have. Perhaps at some point China or Russia will want to call the USA's bluff.
On January 22 2026 17:02 decafchicken wrote:
Economic expansion...GDP is up 4.3%, driven largely by tariffs (increases consumer spending + drives down imports), decreased investment, and increased government spending, none of which signal a healthy economy.

that is hilarious. thanks for the insights.

i think the level of economic opportunity is slightly better now than it was a year ago. by driving down imports you increase demand for domestic made goods...which is positive for economic health and independence. Another indicator of modest improvement is a slight increase in light vehicle sales. They are up from 16.2M to 16.39M despite the end of some EV tax credits. Now the #'s of all over the place ... slightly up .. slightly down.. same. However, taken in aggregate the % of American sales of US Made Vehicles is up slightly in 2025. THat's a positive sign of a small improvement in the US economy.

Throughout Trump's first tenure Democrats were telling me the sky was about to fall at any second. Throughout Biden's tenure Republicans were telling me the sky was about to fall at any second due to Biden's poor health. Now, we're back to Democrats screaming about the sky falling again with Trump back in power.

I can now kinda get how people stopped worry about nuclear annihilation in the 80s... they were getting tired of hearing about an impending doom.. that never came. What is the psychological need for such discussion? Why is discussing the end of the world so popular? I think it is a subset of the Christian view that the world will come to an end a 2nd coming of Jesus will occur. I guess people have such big egos they think the end of the world will occur while they happen to be alive?

Anyhow, since Trump first took office in 2017 I think things are slightly worse in the USA. Most of that is out of his control though.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5226 Posts
January 22 2026 12:48 GMT
#109003
Has the US become more or less polarized during and after Trumo's first term and what do you contribute to that?
Taxes are for Terrans
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17897 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-22 13:10:23
January 22 2026 13:07 GMT
#109004
On January 22 2026 18:27 Uldridge wrote:
There was no reason to be a big bully regarding Greenland, he could've always:
A) upped security there if he wanted to
B) made some kind of trade deal there

part of Trump's negotiating strategy is to start off with a big unrealistic goal to get the trade deal he actually wants. being a bully is a feature not a bug. its part of how he negotiates.
We hardly know anything about the "framework" of the Greenland deal. Perhaps there is a great trade deal in there. Who knows? Fox News knows one thing though. Its a big win for Trump and the USA! ! !

Can we give Trump the Spengler Cup? it'll make him feel better.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22415 Posts
January 22 2026 13:39 GMT
#109005
In the best case it becomes some petty issue like the cod wars. That‘s what it feels like atm.

It‘s like in that joke about the US destroyer asking the Canadian lighthouse to change course.

What‘s the value of the money a nation that doesn‘t keep its promises provides ?
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3273 Posts
January 22 2026 13:42 GMT
#109006
So are you playing some shtick where you pretend to be some seventh-generation in-bred hillbilly but the joke is that you're from Canada and not Alabama or something...?
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17897 Posts
January 22 2026 13:43 GMT
#109007
On January 22 2026 21:48 Uldridge wrote:
Has the US become more or less polarized during and after Trumo's first term and what do you contribute to that?

ironically, communication technology advancements have wrecked human communication.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22638 Posts
January 22 2026 14:12 GMT
#109008
On January 22 2026 22:42 LightSpectra wrote:
So are you playing some shtick where you pretend to be some seventh-generation in-bred hillbilly but the joke is that you're from Canada and not Alabama or something...?
He left Canada to pursue the 'American dream' and constantly has to convince himself that he made the right choice.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1760 Posts
January 22 2026 14:16 GMT
#109009
My personal dream is that Jimmy gets deported to El Salvador because of some random clerical mistake with his immigration papers, just so he can get the taste of the medicine he is so happily slurping as it drips from Trump's diaper.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3273 Posts
January 22 2026 14:17 GMT
#109010
On January 22 2026 23:12 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2026 22:42 LightSpectra wrote:
So are you playing some shtick where you pretend to be some seventh-generation in-bred hillbilly but the joke is that you're from Canada and not Alabama or something...?
He left Canada to pursue the 'American dream' and constantly has to convince himself that he made the right choice.


Damn, maybe immigrants really are destroying my country. Just not the ones ICE is abusing unfortunately.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5226 Posts
January 22 2026 14:22 GMT
#109011
On January 22 2026 22:43 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2026 21:48 Uldridge wrote:
Has the US become more or less polarized during and after Trumo's first term and what do you contribute to that?

ironically, communication technology advancements have wrecked human communication.


When you look at the context, in its capitalist framework, the attention span arms race, privacy data mining and selling, it's probably the only outcome for it.
Opportunistism at the cost of human mental states. But has it ever been any different? We used to by physical slaves, now we're mental slaves.
Taxes are for Terrans
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17897 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-22 17:32:58
January 22 2026 17:14 GMT
#109012
On January 22 2026 23:22 Uldridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2026 22:43 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 22 2026 21:48 Uldridge wrote:
Has the US become more or less polarized during and after Trumo's first term and what do you contribute to that?

ironically, communication technology advancements have wrecked human communication.


When you look at the context, in its capitalist framework, the attention span arms race, privacy data mining and selling, it's probably the only outcome for it.
Opportunistism at the cost of human mental states. But has it ever been any different? We used to by physical slaves, now we're mental slaves.

that includes video games!

Physical slaves had it much harder than the typical American today.

In the area of hte world that is now the USA, the quality of life from 1500 to 1973 rose dramatically. We are blessed to be living in these amazing times. Since 1973, it has been a very small and slow decline as a bunch of egocentric, "me generation", self-actualizing crybabies complain about everything. I'm happy to be alive and I'm going to have an absolute blast this week and this weekend.

My great grandparents lived a much more difficult life. Oddly enough, I think they were happier than the whiners of today.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5226 Posts
January 22 2026 17:29 GMT
#109013
You're always filled to the brim with confirmation bias. You have zero clues how many people in many layers of society are being completely pulled apart by either living from paycheck to paycheck, having no decent outlook on the forseeable future, ro being terminally online, stuck in the social media brainrot doomscroll.
Material posessions does not equal an objectively good life. Buddhism figured this out a long time ago. Our social cohesion is completely rotting and we're becoming a powder keg waiting to explode. You only think we have it good because you have it good.
Taxes are for Terrans
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17897 Posts
January 22 2026 17:33 GMT
#109014
On January 23 2026 02:29 Uldridge wrote:
You're always filled to the brim with confirmation bias. You have zero clues how many people in many layers of society are being completely pulled apart by either living from paycheck to paycheck, having no decent outlook on the forseeable future, ro being terminally online, stuck in the social media brainrot doomscroll.
Material posessions does not equal an objectively good life. Buddhism figured this out a long time ago. Our social cohesion is completely rotting and we're becoming a powder keg waiting to explode. You only think we have it good because you have it good.

ya, that's why i pointed out that my great grandparents were happier than today's whiners despite living a much more difficult life than the typical modern American.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5226 Posts
January 22 2026 18:13 GMT
#109015
Difficult is subjective is my point you dolt
Taxes are for Terrans
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3273 Posts
January 22 2026 19:00 GMT
#109016
Candide if he lived in Europe c. 1938: Wow! At least this is better than being a slave! Life is wonderful!
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-22 20:50:12
January 22 2026 19:14 GMT
#109017
On January 22 2026 22:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2026 18:27 Uldridge wrote:
There was no reason to be a big bully regarding Greenland, he could've always:
A) upped security there if he wanted to
B) made some kind of trade deal there

part of Trump's negotiating strategy is to start off with a big unrealistic goal to get the trade deal he actually wants. being a bully is a feature not a bug. its part of how he negotiates.
We hardly know anything about the "framework" of the Greenland deal. Perhaps there is a great trade deal in there. Who knows? Fox News knows one thing though. Its a big win for Trump and the USA! ! !

Can we give Trump the Spengler Cup? it'll make him feel better.

But is it big brained negotiations? Is it really?

If you phone a hardware store and threaten to harm yourself unless they hand over the ownership of the store, then walk in the next day and buy a stack of drywall panels—what have you done that you couldn't have done by buying it the first place like every non-sociopath? (Besides pissing everyone off?)

And who cares what the propagandists 'knows'. The secret power of Trump is to declare every loss a victory. We can all see the lies, but Trump cheerleaders like you will try to run victory laps with it.

"A good way to threaten somebody is to light a stick of dynamite. Then you call the guy and hold the burning fuse up to the phone. 'Here that?' you say. 'That's dynamite, baby.'"
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18451 Posts
January 22 2026 19:30 GMT
#109018
On January 23 2026 02:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2026 02:29 Uldridge wrote:
You're always filled to the brim with confirmation bias. You have zero clues how many people in many layers of society are being completely pulled apart by either living from paycheck to paycheck, having no decent outlook on the forseeable future, ro being terminally online, stuck in the social media brainrot doomscroll.
Material posessions does not equal an objectively good life. Buddhism figured this out a long time ago. Our social cohesion is completely rotting and we're becoming a powder keg waiting to explode. You only think we have it good because you have it good.

ya, that's why i pointed out that my great grandparents were happier than today's whiners despite living a much more difficult life than the typical modern American.

Happiness of JJR's grandparents: needs objective measurement.
Happiness of "today's whiners": needs objective measurement.

Seeing as (1) happiness isn't even properly defined, (2) definitely is subjective and (3) a social construct that depends on what you're surrounded with, this statement was one of your stupidest ones. And that's saying a lot.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1760 Posts
January 22 2026 19:32 GMT
#109019
If you just look at people like Jimmy through the lens of being WWE fans, who look at the geopolitics like they are a soap opera, everything suddenly makes sense.

He's not interested in having honest conversations, he ignores everything that goes against his predetermined conclusions and just tries to write whatever he thinks will get the most raise out of everyone, just a very silly person with an extremely shallow world view.

A mentality of a petulant child also explains why he is the big fan of the other petulant child.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3273 Posts
January 22 2026 19:58 GMT
#109020
In my experience, modern conservatives that aren't religious fanatics, cognizantly racist, or super rich are the way they are because of some combination of the Dunning-Kruger effect and having such vapid lives that they only briefly feel joy when they believe someone else is mad about something they did.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
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