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On November 11 2025 04:50 Velr wrote:
Shouldn't be an issue nowadays, Debit cards work basically everywhere too.
I stumbled across an article explaining it.
The "Girocard" system of germany is cheaper and independent of US service providers and their.. "creative" additional charging with debit and cc.
Since in germany it's illegal to ask the customer for a surcharge because of their payment method, businesses have to raise prices across the board factoring in the more expensive non-cash methods.
Businesses want to be transparent about the charges of the individual service providers, so customers know what service is more expensive.
If everytime they use a "Visa" it charges them 0.5%+ 0.80€ they'd stop using visa.
But that would lose the bank that works with Visa their share..and Visa some business.
So I am all for a digital Euro that can be processed cheaply and doesn't hide it's profits behind the prices of businesses selling goods and services.
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On November 12 2025 20:01 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2025 06:44 ETisME wrote:On November 12 2025 05:19 Jankisa wrote:
Oh, so you countered the "what's the use case" with "gambling, duh". Touche.
There is no difference between polymarket using a stablecoin and Fanduel or whatever gambling shop people use having "account balance" that's in a normal database.
You have not, except of excreting a lot of jargon and vague hand waving provided any actual use case other then gambling and drugs.
European banks aren't looking to issue stablecoins because that would be dumb and useless, the European central bank will issue a digital Euro which doesn't have anything to do with Crypto because using blockchain would be wasteful and stupid.
Average German is having a much better life then average American or Chinese citizen, since I visit the place and have friends living there, I can tell you that they are doing OK, I'm sure actual German citizens in this thread can confirm that the sky is not falling, the only economy that without the AI bubble would be in a Stagflation is the USA (higher inflation then Germany, btw), and with it's embrace of Trump, Crypto and gambling I'm sure that is going to work out great for them.
I don't get how you aren't tired of spewing the same bullshit for a decade while the technology moved exactly nowhere in the same period.
AI might be a bubble but it's actual useful, Crypto is just a bad, outdated and wasteful technology, basically gambling for nerds who are getting played by corrupt fucks like Trump and his family as well as every other whale out there.
If you want to learn something about finance, maybe pay more attention to actual smart people like Warren Buffet, or even hyper capitalists corpos, none of them are touching Crypto with a 10 foot pole, all of them are knee deep in AI.
Maybe try to snap out of your Crypto cult bubble and try to think for yourself for a change. I bet you are still "invested" in GME. >You have not, except of excreting a lot of jargon and vague hand waving provided any actual use case other then gambling and drugs. Trading? Investing? Porn? What is your money sitting in the bank saving account for? Are those not money? >European banks aren't looking to issue stablecoins because that would be dumb and useless, the European central bank will issue a digital Euro which doesn't have anything to do with Crypto because using blockchain would be wasteful and stupid. https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/big-european-banks-form-company-launch-stablecoin-2025-09-25/"wasteful and stupid" - um ok says the welfare enjoyer. >the only economy that without the AI bubble would be in a Stagflation is the USA (higher inflation then Germany, btw), and with it's embrace of Trump, Crypto and gambling I'm sure that is going to work out great for them. Do you know what stagflation is? Inflation is not stagflation. You know that's the entire reason I used REAL GDP? https://think.ing.com/snaps/german-gdp-growth-3q-25/https://www.dw.com/en/germany-economy-recession-investment-growth-infrastructure-exports-v2/a-72630057>I'm sure actual German citizens in this thread can confirm that the sky is not falling Yeah, no one said it's sky falling. Stagflation is a slow difficult to grow of economy. Recession is a continuous decline. It's not meant to be a crash. >If you want to learn something about finance, maybe pay more attention to actual smart people like Warren Buffet, or even hyper capitalists corpos, none of them are touching Crypto with a 10 foot pole, all of them are knee deep in AI. You mean like Ray Dalio, Bill Miller, Larry Fink/Blackrock, Elon, Tim Cook etc? Yeah they are investing in AI. no they are not starting their own coin, doesn't mean they aren't investing in it directly or indirectly. >Maybe try to snap out of your Crypto cult bubble and try to think for yourself for a change. I bet you are still "invested" in GME Nope. But it sure is funny to see someone unaware of their own financial market and can only bring up Warren Buffet telling me I need to get out of my bubble LOL I'm not a welfare enjoyer, I pay into it so other people don't have to have shitty life. A bunch of banks having a meeting about lunching a stable-coin that will never really be used for anything because the EU digital euro will make it pointless does not mean that crypto has any place in finance in Europe. Trading, investing and porn? Jesus man, are you 17 and unable to wrap your head around having a job in order to make money? My money is being invested in my life, my house, my vineyards, it sure as fuck is not going to go into betting that a number will go up or down. If I do decide do invest it I'll invest it in tangible companies who do stuff, not vaporware for degenerates to bet on. I'm gonna skip your economy comments because I don't want to discuss things with someone who obviously buys into Trump propaganda and doesn't get how real economy works. I can bring up many people outside of the most successful and one of the rare moral investors of our times, but I don't need to because to anyone who is not emotionally and monetarily invested in this, the biggest ponzi schemes of all time it's obvious that crypto is dumb, like I said, gambling for nerds. I've been listening to people like you for a decade plus now, always asking for actual use case, every time I ask you something you move the goalposts, you even lie, if, deep down you actually believed your own BS you wouldn't need to do that, unfortunately, you do, just like your little "retail adoption" bullshit you tried to sell that kicked off this discussion. So, you go ahead and enjoy it, put all of your money in, take more risks, that's the best and smartest way to become rich and happy, might as well go to Polymarket and put it all on a 1:5 bet, why not, you can get 5 times what you put in, that sounds awesome, your GDP will go 5x!
It’s like that bell curve meme where the idiot and the genius both have it right. Dave the Luddite down the pub who doesn’t know or care much about tech or the intricacies of finance will just dismiss it as bollocks. Then at the other end, people who are very au-fait with either or both also dismiss it as bollocks.
I was sold on some interesting applications of crypto, way over a decade ago. Initial evangelists seemed markedly different people, either politically motivated, or fascinated by the tech side and cool shit you could do, or both.
But that ended up being fully consumed by the second wave, where crypto’s main use case became as a speculative investment. Which then rendered many an actually interesting use case completely non-viable, because of almost diametrically opposed desires and incentives across these two groupings.
I’m pretty sure many people do absolutely know it’s a Ponzi scheme of digital beanie babies to be fair, but it’s not really in their interest to tell folks that’s what they’re doing.
I’ve heard some interesting hypotheses that, while obviously being partly technological, some enthusiasm for certain trends actually stems more from a combination of global economic shocks, as well as growing wealth inequality.
If you don’t have much capital to work with, even if you’re in the black with more traditional investment, returns aren’t generally going to be enough to really uplift you from your station. Ain’t going to give you enough capital to get on the housing ladder or whatever.
Speculating on potential long shots, with a potentially huge upside? I mean that’ll do it if you’re in the right place, right time. Aside from the obvious facilitation of the online/smartphone combo which is also huge, I’d contend it’s part of why regular gambling, especially on sports has also exploded.
I dunno if I 100% agree but it does seem a pretty plausible hypothesis.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2dr3z9egljt
Epstein is back on the menu.
[US House Democrats] say that one [email] shows private correspondence between Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein from 2011, in which Epstein appears to say that Trump "spent hours at my house" with a victim of sex trafficking, referring to Trump as "dog that hasn't barked."
How do the right-wingers here feel about having elected a nonce into the White House?
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Welp, after listening to Mamdani's position and Hochul's position on NYC the best thing a lower middle class person or a working poor person can do to improve their life is to move out of the city. Mamdani is not going to change much. Possibly, stricter enforcement of existing regulations on apartment building owners is one big thing Mamdani can make happen.
Waiting for Mamdani to fix things is a waste of time.
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Gambling, just like most other vices were always the sport of the poor, means of control and means of rich getting richer.
I like to play Poker, not online, just in real life, with friends, always friendly, cash games. During the first 10-20 hands, the game is most fun, everyone is basically on even ground, relatively risk averse and we can all play.
As soon as a few win a few big hands, the small players get pushed out. The only way to get back into the game on equal footing is by buying in with 2-3 x the amount that you initially invested, because the folks that won early will bully you out, raising the stakes with relatively speaking weak hands because they have the capital to make this risk. And, as luck goes, a lot of the times you will pay them with excellent cards and get cleaned out because you had terrible luck when turn and river come.
It's similar to Crypto and other forms of gambling, later you come in smaller the chance is that you will come away as a winner. That's why people who are already in try to talk everyone else to do it, they are their exit liquidity.
I was horrified when Americans, well, Trump, in 2018 legalized gambling federally, as with everything, Americans took it and ran with it to a point where it's unavoidable and frankly disgusting. I'm not saying that this wasn't the case before, there were some sponsorships, but now, even European leagues and clubs are all sponsored by gambling.
My country's Football GOAT, Modrić, is out there pimping shitty Gambling sites despite making 20 Million a year, despite teenage gambling being a huge issue here in Croatia, they all just don't care.
And the extent it's fucking up sports is not even close to being fully revealed, just recently NBA got hit by huge scandals, MMA, Boxing, American Football is going to be next, it seeps into everything and makes everything shitty.
Maybe the rise of this came from the general embrace of Crypto as a means to get rich quick, I don't know, but this whole mentality is horrific and sooner or later we are all going to be paying consequences for this, from the recession that is going to be coming from the crashes to having to deal with a mental health crisis, specifically among young men who will in congruence with everything else be ripe for destroying the whole world, just huge swaths of desperate people with extremely high tolerance for risk coming in to maturity ready to fuck shit up.
Sigh.
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On November 12 2025 23:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Welp, after listening to Mamdani's position and Hochul's position on NYC the best thing a lower middle class person or a working poor person can do to improve their life is to move out of the city. Mamdani is not going to change much. Possibly, stricter enforcement of existing regulations on apartment building owners is one big thing Mamdani can make happen.
Waiting for Mamdani to fix things is a waste of time.
Is there a socio-economic problem going to which your solution isn’t ‘just move’?
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On November 12 2025 23:33 Jankisa wrote:
Gambling, just like most other vices were always the sport of the poor, means of control and means of rich getting richer.
I like to play Poker, not online, just in real life, with friends, always friendly, cash games. During the first 10-20 hands, the game is most fun, everyone is basically on even ground, relatively risk averse and we can all play.
As soon as a few win a few big hands, the small players get pushed out. The only way to get back into the game on equal footing is by buying in with 2-3 x the amount that you initially invested, because the folks that won early will bully you out, raising the stakes with relatively speaking weak hands because they have the capital to make this risk. And, as luck goes, a lot of the times you will pay them with excellent cards and get cleaned out because you had terrible luck when turn and river come.
It's similar to Crypto and other forms of gambling, later you come in smaller the chance is that you will come away as a winner. That's why people who are already in try to talk everyone else to do it, they are their exit liquidity.
I was horrified when Americans, well, Trump, in 2018 legalized gambling federally, as with everything, Americans took it and ran with it to a point where it's unavoidable and frankly disgusting. I'm not saying that this wasn't the case before, there were some sponsorships, but now, even European leagues and clubs are all sponsored by gambling.
My country's Football GOAT, Modrić, is out there pimping shitty Gambling sites despite making 20 Million a year, despite teenage gambling being a huge issue here in Croatia, they all just don't care.
And the extent it's fucking up sports is not even close to being fully revealed, just recently NBA got hit by huge scandals, MMA, Boxing, American Football is going to be next, it seeps into everything and makes everything shitty.
Maybe the rise of this came from the general embrace of Crypto as a means to get rich quick, I don't know, but this whole mentality is horrific and sooner or later we are all going to be paying consequences for this, from the recession that is going to be coming from the crashes to having to deal with a mental health crisis, specifically among young men who will in congruence with everything else be ripe for destroying the whole world, just huge swaths of desperate people with extremely high tolerance for risk coming in to maturity ready to fuck shit up.
Sigh.
great post.
These are great points. don't gamble. don't drink. don't smoke. eat only whole foods. never eat anything wrapped in plastic and especially wrapped in plastic encased in a box.
it is amazing how living the life of a devout christian or devout muslim has become a great way to exist in North America's degenerated, declining state.
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I mean sure, if you ignore the stuff about garments made from more than one cloth and so forth then yeah, you can take a religion with a whole bunch of rules and find some okay ones. It’d be weird if there were no good rules, that’d be like getting 0% on a multiple choice exam.
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On November 12 2025 23:41 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2025 23:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Welp, after listening to Mamdani's position and Hochul's position on NYC the best thing a lower middle class person or a working poor person can do to improve their life is to move out of the city. Mamdani is not going to change much. Possibly, stricter enforcement of existing regulations on apartment building owners is one big thing Mamdani can make happen.
Waiting for Mamdani to fix things is a waste of time. Is there a socio-economic problem going to which your solution isn’t ‘just move’?
it appears the people in the Bronx, the poorest area of NYC, agree with me. Population declined by 116,178 in 2023. Of course, new people enter. So we're prolly looking at 10% of people leaving. Studies indicate they left NYC altogether.
https://www.nyc.gov/assets/planning/download/pdf/planning-level/nyc-population/population-estimates/current-population-estimates-2023-June2024-release.pdf?r=1
This is a story as old as time. Perhaps it is hard for people living in small European countries to understand?
In NA, you go where the jobs are. My wife's 26 year old nephew bought a house in Frederickburg, Virginia. He works in Washington DC. He grew up at least a 1 hour drive from both of these places. Why would he do this? Its the only way he can afford a house. My great grandfather moved from Montreal to a suburb of Toronto some 6 hours away by car. why? better job and he could afford a house. Hardly any of my 30 cousins who grew up in the Greater Toronto area are still here. why? the economy is garbage. They are getting better jobs elsewhere. From 1950 to 2008 the economy was amazing in Toronto. Now its crap.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/ontario-alberta-move-migration-population-outflow-1.6778456
imagine if David Kim, Dustin Browder, and Artosis never left the town where they grew up. It'd be a different world. it'd be bizarro world.
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On November 12 2025 23:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
it is amazing how living the life of a devout christian or devout muslim has become a great way to exist in North America's degenerated, declining state.
I mean, I drink and smoke weed, they help me relax. I don't eat fast food, we grow a lot of our vegetables and we have a full Pantry of pickled and naturally preserved foods, the stuff we eat is from the pile, not wrapped in plastic. With all that, I believe I can afford myself a vice or two.
I don't see the social or mental benefits of gambling. To me, that is the big difference.
And don't get me wrong, I'm not for prohibition, I think gambling, smoking, drinking, all drugs and prostitution should all be legal, but well regulated and taxed.
By good gambling regulation, it should be the same as cigarettes (over here):
- extremely unpleasant and aggressive anti-advertisements
- complete ban on positive ads about it
- no gambling mechanics in video games
- no celebrity endorsements for gambling companies
- no prop and live betting
- hard-coded limits, if a bartender is legally supposed to cut you off, so should online betting companies
- absolutely no predatory notifications, emails, campaigns, no free $150 for your first bet etc.
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On November 12 2025 23:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2025 23:33 Jankisa wrote:
Gambling, just like most other vices were always the sport of the poor, means of control and means of rich getting richer.
I like to play Poker, not online, just in real life, with friends, always friendly, cash games. During the first 10-20 hands, the game is most fun, everyone is basically on even ground, relatively risk averse and we can all play.
As soon as a few win a few big hands, the small players get pushed out. The only way to get back into the game on equal footing is by buying in with 2-3 x the amount that you initially invested, because the folks that won early will bully you out, raising the stakes with relatively speaking weak hands because they have the capital to make this risk. And, as luck goes, a lot of the times you will pay them with excellent cards and get cleaned out because you had terrible luck when turn and river come.
It's similar to Crypto and other forms of gambling, later you come in smaller the chance is that you will come away as a winner. That's why people who are already in try to talk everyone else to do it, they are their exit liquidity.
I was horrified when Americans, well, Trump, in 2018 legalized gambling federally, as with everything, Americans took it and ran with it to a point where it's unavoidable and frankly disgusting. I'm not saying that this wasn't the case before, there were some sponsorships, but now, even European leagues and clubs are all sponsored by gambling.
My country's Football GOAT, Modrić, is out there pimping shitty Gambling sites despite making 20 Million a year, despite teenage gambling being a huge issue here in Croatia, they all just don't care.
And the extent it's fucking up sports is not even close to being fully revealed, just recently NBA got hit by huge scandals, MMA, Boxing, American Football is going to be next, it seeps into everything and makes everything shitty.
Maybe the rise of this came from the general embrace of Crypto as a means to get rich quick, I don't know, but this whole mentality is horrific and sooner or later we are all going to be paying consequences for this, from the recession that is going to be coming from the crashes to having to deal with a mental health crisis, specifically among young men who will in congruence with everything else be ripe for destroying the whole world, just huge swaths of desperate people with extremely high tolerance for risk coming in to maturity ready to fuck shit up.
Sigh. great post. These are great points. don't gamble. don't drink. don't smoke. eat only whole foods. never eat anything wrapped in plastic and especially wrapped in plastic encased in a box. it is amazing how living the life of a devout christian or devout muslim has become a great way to exist in North America's degenerated, declining state.
This is a pretty big miss, unless you're cherry-picking and reinterpreting religious texts and specific sects big time.
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On November 12 2025 23:56 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2025 23:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
it is amazing how living the life of a devout christian or devout muslim has become a great way to exist in North America's degenerated, declining state. I mean, I drink and smoke weed, they help me relax.
when you breathe as if you are relaxed you start to become relaxed. try learning about regulating the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems. you prolly won't have to rely on alcohol and weed and can save some $$$.
Of course, the elites running this world do not want a knowledgeable citizenry. Learning about these things costs $0 and therefore generates zero profit. Its just consume, CONSUME, CONSUME. 
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I'm not into meditation or yoga, I have my own way, brain works well, have a great job, family that loves me and a clean bill of health.
I make my own wine and spend about 25 € a month on weed, I think that is an acceptable level of consumption.
If other things work for you, good for you, I'm happy.
I don't try to tell other people they should smoke or drink or that whatever working for them is wrong and they should stop, it's a nice way to go through life, at least for me.
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On November 13 2025 00:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
This is a pretty big miss, unless you're cherry-picking and reinterpreting religious texts and specific sects big time.
I'm pretty sure that a life of a devout Buddhist would be even better, meat is also bad, and from what I know, they don't have the shitty views on women and gay people, plus, unlike Christianity and Islam they don't have the problematic pedophilia streak or the issues with, you know, not having issues with slavery.
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On November 12 2025 23:56 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2025 23:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
it is amazing how living the life of a devout christian or devout muslim has become a great way to exist in North America's degenerated, declining state. I mean, I drink and smoke weed, they help me relax. I don't see the social or mental benefits of gambling. To me, that is the big difference. And don't get me wrong, I'm not for prohibition, I think gambling, smoking, drinking, all drugs and prostitution should all be legal, but well regulated and taxed. By good gambling regulation, it should be the same as cigarettes (over here): - extremely unpleasant and aggressive anti-advertisements - complete ban on positive ads about it - no gambling mechanics in video games - no celebrity endorsements for gambling companies - no prop and live betting - hard-coded limits, if a bartender is legally supposed to cut you off, so should online betting companies - absolutely no predatory notifications, emails, campaigns, no free $150 for your first bet etc.
I think it can be fun, in a limited capacity. It’s a bit of a tradition in the UK to bet on the Grand National horse race, many non-betters, or people who know nout about horse racing partake. You’re at work and it’s a bit of banter over who’s made the right calls, one of those relatively rare communal events where everyone chips in.
But it’s so, so niche. The negative externalities just completely swamp that.
I’d 100% support all of your proposals.
I’ve never made a bet in my life, and I intend to have that continue. I hate the term ‘addictive personality’, but I’ve got hooked by many vices in my youth, and have a mental health condition that makes me naturally drawn to such things. Having become aware of that, I know it’s not a door I don’t want to open, as I don’t know if I could close it.
The Guardian did a good episode of their Football Weekly podcast on gambling and the sport.
They had a recovering gambling addict and football nut on, and the guy doesn’t watch live broadcast football. He’ll check out the Match of the Day highlight package, or go to live matches. But watching the TV experience, he just gets bombarded with gambling advertisements to the degree he thinks it’ll fuck his recovery.
Someone made the point that say, booze adverts exist, and a recovering alcoholic may struggle with those. Which, being in that position myself has some validity, but it’s not quite the same. You encounter such publicity at a pretty similar cadence to all other kinds of products.
He made the point that the difference is that if you’re tuning in for a Premier League game, a huge proportion of advertising, or sponsorship in that slot is gambling stuff.
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On November 12 2025 23:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2025 23:41 WombaT wrote:On November 12 2025 23:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Welp, after listening to Mamdani's position and Hochul's position on NYC the best thing a lower middle class person or a working poor person can do to improve their life is to move out of the city. Mamdani is not going to change much. Possibly, stricter enforcement of existing regulations on apartment building owners is one big thing Mamdani can make happen.
Waiting for Mamdani to fix things is a waste of time. Is there a socio-economic problem going to which your solution isn’t ‘just move’? it appears the people in the Bronx, the poorest area of NYC, agree with me. Population declined by 116,178 in 2023. Of course, new people enter. So we're prolly looking at 10% of people leaving. Studies indicate they left NYC altogether. https://www.nyc.gov/assets/planning/download/pdf/planning-level/nyc-population/population-estimates/current-population-estimates-2023-June2024-release.pdf?r=1This is a story as old as time. Perhaps it is hard for people living in small European countries to understand? In NA, you go where the jobs are. My wife's 26 year old nephew bought a house in Frederickburg, Virginia. He works in Washington DC. He grew up at least a 1 hour drive from both of these places. Why would he do this? Its the only way he can afford a house. My great grandfather moved from Montreal to a suburb of Toronto some 6 hours away by car. why? better job and he could afford a house. Hardly any of my 30 cousins who grew up in the Greater Toronto area are still here. why? the economy is garbage. They are getting better jobs elsewhere. From 1950 to 2008 the economy was amazing in Toronto. Now its crap. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/ontario-alberta-move-migration-population-outflow-1.6778456imagine if David Kim, Dustin Browder, and Artosis never left the town where they grew up. It'd be a different world. it'd be bizarro world.
Why have any restrictions on immigration then? I mean if ‘just move’ is the catch all solution to everything then it seems unfair to gate people out.
It’s not really my criticism of your worldview. It’s your application of it to basically everything. Why bother to even attempt to tackle the issues that people are having, sure everyone can just move and it’ll be fine?
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On November 13 2025 00:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2025 23:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On November 12 2025 23:33 Jankisa wrote:
Gambling, just like most other vices were always the sport of the poor, means of control and means of rich getting richer.
I like to play Poker, not online, just in real life, with friends, always friendly, cash games. During the first 10-20 hands, the game is most fun, everyone is basically on even ground, relatively risk averse and we can all play.
As soon as a few win a few big hands, the small players get pushed out. The only way to get back into the game on equal footing is by buying in with 2-3 x the amount that you initially invested, because the folks that won early will bully you out, raising the stakes with relatively speaking weak hands because they have the capital to make this risk. And, as luck goes, a lot of the times you will pay them with excellent cards and get cleaned out because you had terrible luck when turn and river come.
It's similar to Crypto and other forms of gambling, later you come in smaller the chance is that you will come away as a winner. That's why people who are already in try to talk everyone else to do it, they are their exit liquidity.
I was horrified when Americans, well, Trump, in 2018 legalized gambling federally, as with everything, Americans took it and ran with it to a point where it's unavoidable and frankly disgusting. I'm not saying that this wasn't the case before, there were some sponsorships, but now, even European leagues and clubs are all sponsored by gambling.
My country's Football GOAT, Modrić, is out there pimping shitty Gambling sites despite making 20 Million a year, despite teenage gambling being a huge issue here in Croatia, they all just don't care.
And the extent it's fucking up sports is not even close to being fully revealed, just recently NBA got hit by huge scandals, MMA, Boxing, American Football is going to be next, it seeps into everything and makes everything shitty.
Maybe the rise of this came from the general embrace of Crypto as a means to get rich quick, I don't know, but this whole mentality is horrific and sooner or later we are all going to be paying consequences for this, from the recession that is going to be coming from the crashes to having to deal with a mental health crisis, specifically among young men who will in congruence with everything else be ripe for destroying the whole world, just huge swaths of desperate people with extremely high tolerance for risk coming in to maturity ready to fuck shit up.
Sigh. great post. These are great points. don't gamble. don't drink. don't smoke. eat only whole foods. never eat anything wrapped in plastic and especially wrapped in plastic encased in a box. it is amazing how living the life of a devout christian or devout muslim has become a great way to exist in North America's degenerated, declining state. This is a pretty big miss, unless you're cherry-picking and reinterpreting religious texts and specific sects big time.
Just off the hop. devout religious people have children. its an important part of their existence. Very generally speaking, 75% of 42 year old religious people have kids. 42% of 42 year old non-religious people have kids.
WIth the birth rate cratering the devout religious people having 3+ kids become more and more valuable.
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sry for the double post.
On November 13 2025 00:31 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2025 23:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On November 12 2025 23:41 WombaT wrote:On November 12 2025 23:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Welp, after listening to Mamdani's position and Hochul's position on NYC the best thing a lower middle class person or a working poor person can do to improve their life is to move out of the city. Mamdani is not going to change much. Possibly, stricter enforcement of existing regulations on apartment building owners is one big thing Mamdani can make happen.
Waiting for Mamdani to fix things is a waste of time. Is there a socio-economic problem going to which your solution isn’t ‘just move’? it appears the people in the Bronx, the poorest area of NYC, agree with me. Population declined by 116,178 in 2023. Of course, new people enter. So we're prolly looking at 10% of people leaving. Studies indicate they left NYC altogether. https://www.nyc.gov/assets/planning/download/pdf/planning-level/nyc-population/population-estimates/current-population-estimates-2023-June2024-release.pdf?r=1This is a story as old as time. Perhaps it is hard for people living in small European countries to understand? In NA, you go where the jobs are. My wife's 26 year old nephew bought a house in Frederickburg, Virginia. He works in Washington DC. He grew up at least a 1 hour drive from both of these places. Why would he do this? Its the only way he can afford a house. My great grandfather moved from Montreal to a suburb of Toronto some 6 hours away by car. why? better job and he could afford a house. Hardly any of my 30 cousins who grew up in the Greater Toronto area are still here. why? the economy is garbage. They are getting better jobs elsewhere. From 1950 to 2008 the economy was amazing in Toronto. Now its crap. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/ontario-alberta-move-migration-population-outflow-1.6778456imagine if David Kim, Dustin Browder, and Artosis never left the town where they grew up. It'd be a different world. it'd be bizarro world. Why have any restrictions on immigration then? I mean if ‘just move’ is the catch all solution to everything then it seems unfair to gate people out. It’s not really my criticism of your worldview. It’s your application of it to basically everything. Why bother to even attempt to tackle the issues that people are having, sure everyone can just move and it’ll be fine?
you move within the country. Canada is a big country. USA is a big country.
Canada elected a man of average intelligence as PM and there were no leaders on the horizon as smart as guys like Pierre Trudeau and Jean Chretien.. .so I left. There was nothing I could do as an individual to change Canada's leadership void. The working poor in the Bronx can tell nothing is going to change. So, they are leaving. meh.
Again, its pretty simple. You move where the jobs are.
On November 13 2025 00:10 Jankisa wrote:
I don't try to tell other people they should smoke or drink or that whatever working for them is wrong and they should stop, it's a nice way to go through life, at least for me.
i advocate for learning as much as one can about the human body because the medical system is cratering.
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On November 13 2025 00:32 JimmyJRaynor wrote:sry for the double post. Show nested quote +On November 13 2025 00:31 WombaT wrote:On November 12 2025 23:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On November 12 2025 23:41 WombaT wrote:On November 12 2025 23:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Welp, after listening to Mamdani's position and Hochul's position on NYC the best thing a lower middle class person or a working poor person can do to improve their life is to move out of the city. Mamdani is not going to change much. Possibly, stricter enforcement of existing regulations on apartment building owners is one big thing Mamdani can make happen.
Waiting for Mamdani to fix things is a waste of time. Is there a socio-economic problem going to which your solution isn’t ‘just move’? it appears the people in the Bronx, the poorest area of NYC, agree with me. Population declined by 116,178 in 2023. Of course, new people enter. So we're prolly looking at 10% of people leaving. Studies indicate they left NYC altogether. https://www.nyc.gov/assets/planning/download/pdf/planning-level/nyc-population/population-estimates/current-population-estimates-2023-June2024-release.pdf?r=1This is a story as old as time. Perhaps it is hard for people living in small European countries to understand? In NA, you go where the jobs are. My wife's 26 year old nephew bought a house in Frederickburg, Virginia. He works in Washington DC. He grew up at least a 1 hour drive from both of these places. Why would he do this? Its the only way he can afford a house. My great grandfather moved from Montreal to a suburb of Toronto some 6 hours away by car. why? better job and he could afford a house. Hardly any of my 30 cousins who grew up in the Greater Toronto area are still here. why? the economy is garbage. They are getting better jobs elsewhere. From 1950 to 2008 the economy was amazing in Toronto. Now its crap. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/ontario-alberta-move-migration-population-outflow-1.6778456imagine if David Kim, Dustin Browder, and Artosis never left the town where they grew up. It'd be a different world. it'd be bizarro world. Why have any restrictions on immigration then? I mean if ‘just move’ is the catch all solution to everything then it seems unfair to gate people out. It’s not really my criticism of your worldview. It’s your application of it to basically everything. Why bother to even attempt to tackle the issues that people are having, sure everyone can just move and it’ll be fine? you move within the country. Canada is a big country. USA is a big country. Canada elected a man of average intelligence as PM and there were no leaders on the horizon as smart as guys like Pierre Trudeau and Jean Chretien.. .so I left. There was nothing I could do as an individual to change Canada's leadership void. The working poor in the Bronx can tell nothing is going to change. So, they are leaving. meh. Again, its pretty simple. You move where the jobs are. Show nested quote +On November 13 2025 00:10 Jankisa wrote:
I don't try to tell other people they should smoke or drink or that whatever working for them is wrong and they should stop, it's a nice way to go through life, at least for me. i advocate for learning as much as one can about the human body because the medical system is cratering.
None of your reasoning tracks logically. You left Canada because they elected someone of average intelligence, and you want someone extremely smart. That is not the worst explanation, until you realize that you moved to a country with perhaps the dumbest leader in the world. A guy who doesn’t understand percentages, draws sharpies on maps when he doesn’t like them, claims to have invented common words, thinks cognitive tests are hard, thinks you need your ID to buy groceries, and a thousand other really stupid things.
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On November 13 2025 00:16 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2025 00:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
This is a pretty big miss, unless you're cherry-picking and reinterpreting religious texts and specific sects big time. I'm pretty sure that a life of a devout Buddhist would be even better, meat is also bad, and from what I know, they don't have the shitty views on women and gay people, plus, unlike Christianity and Islam they don't have the problematic pedophilia streak or the issues with, you know, not having issues with slavery. Yeah, Buddhism is definitely a step in the right direction regarding a lot of ethical views.
On November 13 2025 00:32 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2025 00:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On November 12 2025 23:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On November 12 2025 23:33 Jankisa wrote:
Gambling, just like most other vices were always the sport of the poor, means of control and means of rich getting richer.
I like to play Poker, not online, just in real life, with friends, always friendly, cash games. During the first 10-20 hands, the game is most fun, everyone is basically on even ground, relatively risk averse and we can all play.
As soon as a few win a few big hands, the small players get pushed out. The only way to get back into the game on equal footing is by buying in with 2-3 x the amount that you initially invested, because the folks that won early will bully you out, raising the stakes with relatively speaking weak hands because they have the capital to make this risk. And, as luck goes, a lot of the times you will pay them with excellent cards and get cleaned out because you had terrible luck when turn and river come.
It's similar to Crypto and other forms of gambling, later you come in smaller the chance is that you will come away as a winner. That's why people who are already in try to talk everyone else to do it, they are their exit liquidity.
I was horrified when Americans, well, Trump, in 2018 legalized gambling federally, as with everything, Americans took it and ran with it to a point where it's unavoidable and frankly disgusting. I'm not saying that this wasn't the case before, there were some sponsorships, but now, even European leagues and clubs are all sponsored by gambling.
My country's Football GOAT, Modrić, is out there pimping shitty Gambling sites despite making 20 Million a year, despite teenage gambling being a huge issue here in Croatia, they all just don't care.
And the extent it's fucking up sports is not even close to being fully revealed, just recently NBA got hit by huge scandals, MMA, Boxing, American Football is going to be next, it seeps into everything and makes everything shitty.
Maybe the rise of this came from the general embrace of Crypto as a means to get rich quick, I don't know, but this whole mentality is horrific and sooner or later we are all going to be paying consequences for this, from the recession that is going to be coming from the crashes to having to deal with a mental health crisis, specifically among young men who will in congruence with everything else be ripe for destroying the whole world, just huge swaths of desperate people with extremely high tolerance for risk coming in to maturity ready to fuck shit up.
Sigh. great post. These are great points. don't gamble. don't drink. don't smoke. eat only whole foods. never eat anything wrapped in plastic and especially wrapped in plastic encased in a box. it is amazing how living the life of a devout christian or devout muslim has become a great way to exist in North America's degenerated, declining state. This is a pretty big miss, unless you're cherry-picking and reinterpreting religious texts and specific sects big time. Just off the hop. devout religious people have children. its an important part of their existence. Very generally speaking, 75% of 42 year old religious people have kids. 42% of 42 year old non-religious people have kids. WIth the birth rate cratering the devout religious people having 3+ kids become more and more valuable. So what? Quality over quantity. Simply having kids isn't going to get rid of degeneration if the families instill immoral, outdated, toxic values.
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