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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45247 Posts
November 08 2025 14:56 GMT
#106941
On November 08 2025 18:42 maybenexttime wrote:
Has anyone ever pressed Trump on his claims about prices going down 500-1000% down? He keeps saying that nonsense. I wonder if our local Trump fans feel a little embarrassed. ;-)

Ughhhh his lack of basic math skills is so excruciating. Short compilation of Trump doing this from 5:30 to 7:00 timestamp here:
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23613 Posts
November 08 2025 18:10 GMT
#106942
On November 08 2025 09:49 micronesia wrote:
Republicans have just strongly rejected the softened Democratic offer for a one-year extension to the health care tax credits in exchange for what republicans are asking for. Not, "that doesn't quite work," but rather an implied, "Wait, you think we're going to give you anything other than a promise that we can renege on later? Nope."

Democrats really have no choice, it seems. Either dig in, or never have power again. The GOP is making that abundantly clear.


Is a 1 year extension sufficiently "digging in" in your view? 6 months? 3 months? 1 month? 1 day?

If Republicans give Democrats the ultimatum of ending the filibuster or accepting a promise to negotiate, would you prefer the filibuster be ended? (open question to everyone)

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
November 08 2025 18:36 GMT
#106943
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23613 Posts
November 08 2025 18:49 GMT
#106944
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18205 Posts
November 08 2025 20:30 GMT
#106945
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

Show nested quote +
In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

Show nested quote +
“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11735 Posts
November 08 2025 20:45 GMT
#106946
On November 09 2025 03:10 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2025 09:49 micronesia wrote:
Republicans have just strongly rejected the softened Democratic offer for a one-year extension to the health care tax credits in exchange for what republicans are asking for. Not, "that doesn't quite work," but rather an implied, "Wait, you think we're going to give you anything other than a promise that we can renege on later? Nope."

Democrats really have no choice, it seems. Either dig in, or never have power again. The GOP is making that abundantly clear.


Is a 1 year extension sufficiently "digging in" in your view? 6 months? 3 months? 1 month? 1 day?

If Republicans give Democrats the ultimatum of ending the filibuster or accepting a promise to negotiate, would you prefer the filibuster be ended? (open question to everyone)



A promise to negotiate by republicans is worthless. Why not negotiate now? A 1 year extension for getting what they are asking for for 1 year immediately in the same action, and then negotiating during that year sounds kinda reasonable.

A 1 year extension for a promise to maybe talk in the future is not, because promises by republicans in general and Trump specifically are not worth a wet fart.

Any deal must always and immediately involve the part of both sides in a way that can not easily be undone onesidedly by republicans. Any promise of negotiating or doing anything later must be treated as basically nothing at all, because the word of these serial liars and bullshitters is worthless.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8231 Posts
November 08 2025 21:31 GMT
#106947
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?


Trump believes Tariff is a fee that other countries pay to him. He has absolutely no understanding of even basic economic concepts.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17235 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-08 23:35:32
November 08 2025 22:48 GMT
#106948
On November 08 2025 06:21 Hat Trick of Today wrote:
It’s a food desert for a reason, these environments would be considered shitholes for the majority of the world.

There is 1 store per borough planned; so 5 stores in total. This is not going to save the universe. There are already 1000+ grocery stores in NYC.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/30/business/zohran-mamdani-grocery-stores
The Bronx has the highest poverty rate in NYC and its ~60 square miles and will get 1 government run grocery store.
Mamdani has proposed five municipally owned stores, one in each New York City borough, to offer groceries at lower prices to customers with limited access to supermarkets.

How is 1 store per borough going to improve upon "limited access"?

In poor neighbourhoods, family grocery stores lower their inventory because street people can grab the produce and run. Family grocery stores won't put produce out on the sidewalk. In middle class and higher areas they will put the produce out there allowing the small grocery store to have more inventory. I've observed this trend in both NYC and Toronto. Any one see this happening in places like Chicago or Boston or Montreal?

High quality and expensive meat, fruit and vegetables are hard to find in poor urban neighbourhoods. For Mamdani's stores to be effective he is going to need to stock high quality stuff. High quality salmon is now $6 a can.

Poor people can always explore the option of catching their own fish. NYC has many solid fishing options. My great grandparents were poor and lived in a suburb of Toronto and that is how most of their fish arrived in their freezer. My great grandfather taught me how to fish. It is very relaxing. You can lower your cortisol levels and acquire some very low cost meat.

The City could offer free fishing licenses to poor people to encourage this method of lowering the most expensive part of their grocery bill: high quality meat.
On November 08 2025 13:52 oBlade wrote:
It's New York City. You can walk to food. Bread is the staple food of the entire Western hemisphere. No need to pathologize it
....
...
Most supermarkets do have produce which is why the category of supermarket exists and is called that instead of convenience store.

Bread is hardly a prime food source. You need a variety of fruits, vegetables, nuts, and meat. I'd go with Oats, brown rice, barley, quinoa before bread.
On November 09 2025 06:31 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?


Trump believes Tariff is a fee that other countries pay to him. He has absolutely no understanding of even basic economic concepts.

he remains more economically literate than Kamala Harris though.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45247 Posts
November 08 2025 23:54 GMT
#106949
On November 09 2025 07:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 06:31 Excludos wrote:
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?


Trump believes Tariff is a fee that other countries pay to him. He has absolutely no understanding of even basic economic concepts.

he remains more economically literate than Kamala Harris though.

Harris literally has a degree in economics.

Trump doesn't know what a tariff is, and he thought that the United States should declare bankruptcy and default on all its national debt.

But okay.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23613 Posts
November 08 2025 23:56 GMT
#106950
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?
The ACA did enshrine profits for insurance providers into law, so some measurable part of the subsidy is effectively being pocketed as profit by insurance companies and their shareholders. The righteous anger that fact engenders is something that sort of rhetoric is aiming to take advantage of.

I think he's expressing hostility to health insurance at the conceptual level. Advocating for direct to consumer healthcare instead. Sounds like that's at least what I'd guess the person that he got that idea from was trying to explain to him.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17235 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-09 00:42:20
November 09 2025 00:22 GMT
#106951
The biggest issue in NYC is working poor or lower middle class Bronx people getting priced out by visitors hanging around the big transit hub near Yankee Stadium. The only retailers that can afford the high rent appeal to the affluent visitors that are resting between trains. Commuter train people are willing to spend a fortune. Surrounding the Stadium is a far less than affluent neighbourhood.

Toronto had this same problem until 1989. Rich people cranking up the prices for the poor people where their baseball/football park was. Toronto demolished the football//baseball park. Then, they stuck the baseball Stadium in the middle of the richest area in Canada. Now, the poor area surrounding where the baseball park used to be has reasonable everyday prices that normal people can afford.

Why NYC put the new Yankee Stadium right beside old Yankee Stadium... i'll never know. tradition i guess? They shoulda stuck it on Long Island. 35+ years ago MLB was a poor man's sport. The working poor people in the Bronx could go to a game for $2 to $4. So in the 70s and 80s it was no problem for a working poor person from the Bronx to go to several baseball games a month.

Here is 50,000 poor people having a blast.
LOL.
On November 09 2025 08:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 07:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 06:31 Excludos wrote:
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?


Trump believes Tariff is a fee that other countries pay to him. He has absolutely no understanding of even basic economic concepts.

he remains more economically literate than Kamala Harris though.

Harris literally has a degree in economics.
Trump doesn't know what a tariff is, and he thought that the United States should declare bankruptcy and default on all its national debt.
But okay.

A university degree doesn't mean much.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
November 09 2025 00:24 GMT
#106952
On November 09 2025 09:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 08:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 09 2025 07:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 06:31 Excludos wrote:
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?


Trump believes Tariff is a fee that other countries pay to him. He has absolutely no understanding of even basic economic concepts.

he remains more economically literate than Kamala Harris though.

Harris literally has a degree in economics.
Trump doesn't know what a tariff is, and he thought that the United States should declare bankruptcy and default on all its national debt.
But okay.

A university degree doesn't mean much.

Being the world's foremost economics expert with 5 PhDs and 2 nobel prizes doesn't mean much if you don't want it to.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7322 Posts
November 09 2025 00:42 GMT
#106953
On November 09 2025 08:56 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?
The ACA did enshrine profits for insurance providers into law, so some measurable part of the subsidy is effectively being pocketed as profit by insurance companies and their shareholders. The righteous anger that fact engenders is something that sort of rhetoric is aiming to take advantage of.

I think he's expressing hostility to health insurance at the conceptual level. Advocating for direct to consumer healthcare instead. Sounds like that's at least what I'd guess the person that he got that idea from was trying to explain to him.





We all know that is bullshit. Healthcare is inelastic if your health is bad enough.

Price controls and negotiating as a single block is the only way to get costs down.


How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17235 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-09 00:53:24
November 09 2025 00:46 GMT
#106954
To finalize my previous post about the Bronx, New York... it is a crying shame that MLB is no longer a poor man's sport.
Yankee Stadium shoulda been demolished and they could put housing in its place. The Bronx is super densely populated.
On November 09 2025 09:24 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 09:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 08:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 09 2025 07:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 06:31 Excludos wrote:
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?


Trump believes Tariff is a fee that other countries pay to him. He has absolutely no understanding of even basic economic concepts.

he remains more economically literate than Kamala Harris though.

Harris literally has a degree in economics.
Trump doesn't know what a tariff is, and he thought that the United States should declare bankruptcy and default on all its national debt.
But okay.

A university degree doesn't mean much.

Being the world's foremost economics expert with 5 PhDs and 2 nobel prizes doesn't mean much if you don't want it to.

The BA Kamala holds in Poli Sci. and Economics doesn't mean much.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
November 09 2025 00:49 GMT
#106955
On November 09 2025 09:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
To finalize my previous post about the Bronx, New York... it is a crying shame that MLB is no longer a poor man's sport.
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 09:24 micronesia wrote:
On November 09 2025 09:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 08:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 09 2025 07:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 06:31 Excludos wrote:
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?


Trump believes Tariff is a fee that other countries pay to him. He has absolutely no understanding of even basic economic concepts.

he remains more economically literate than Kamala Harris though.

Harris literally has a degree in economics.
Trump doesn't know what a tariff is, and he thought that the United States should declare bankruptcy and default on all its national debt.
But okay.

A university degree doesn't mean much.

Being the world's foremost economics expert with 5 PhDs and 2 nobel prizes doesn't mean much if you don't want it to.

The BA Kamala holds in Poli Sci. and Economics doesn't mean much.

You missed my point that without explaining why it's kind of a useless observation.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17235 Posts
November 09 2025 00:54 GMT
#106956
On November 09 2025 09:49 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 09:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
To finalize my previous post about the Bronx, New York... it is a crying shame that MLB is no longer a poor man's sport.
On November 09 2025 09:24 micronesia wrote:
On November 09 2025 09:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 08:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 09 2025 07:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 06:31 Excludos wrote:
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?


Trump believes Tariff is a fee that other countries pay to him. He has absolutely no understanding of even basic economic concepts.

he remains more economically literate than Kamala Harris though.

Harris literally has a degree in economics.
Trump doesn't know what a tariff is, and he thought that the United States should declare bankruptcy and default on all its national debt.
But okay.

A university degree doesn't mean much.

Being the world's foremost economics expert with 5 PhDs and 2 nobel prizes doesn't mean much if you don't want it to.

The BA Kamala holds in Poli Sci. and Economics doesn't mean much.

You missed my point that without explaining why it's kind of a useless observation.

a respectable 4 year degree in Economics with a real math component has much more meaning than one of these "soft arts" Eco//Poli.Sci degrees.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
November 09 2025 00:58 GMT
#106957
On November 09 2025 09:54 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 09:49 micronesia wrote:
On November 09 2025 09:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
To finalize my previous post about the Bronx, New York... it is a crying shame that MLB is no longer a poor man's sport.
On November 09 2025 09:24 micronesia wrote:
On November 09 2025 09:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 08:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 09 2025 07:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 06:31 Excludos wrote:
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
[quote]
To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

[quote]

And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

[quote]

www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?


Trump believes Tariff is a fee that other countries pay to him. He has absolutely no understanding of even basic economic concepts.

he remains more economically literate than Kamala Harris though.

Harris literally has a degree in economics.
Trump doesn't know what a tariff is, and he thought that the United States should declare bankruptcy and default on all its national debt.
But okay.

A university degree doesn't mean much.

Being the world's foremost economics expert with 5 PhDs and 2 nobel prizes doesn't mean much if you don't want it to.

The BA Kamala holds in Poli Sci. and Economics doesn't mean much.

You missed my point that without explaining why it's kind of a useless observation.

a respectable 4 year degree in Economics with a real math component has much more meaning than one of these "soft arts" Eco//Poli.Sci degrees.

I don't know what those degrees entail, but that's already a much more reasonable-looking claim than

A university degree doesn't mean much.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8231 Posts
November 09 2025 01:02 GMT
#106958
On November 09 2025 07:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 06:31 Excludos wrote:
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?


Trump believes Tariff is a fee that other countries pay to him. He has absolutely no understanding of even basic economic concepts.

he remains more economically literate than Kamala Harris though.

And you're basing this on what exactly..?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17235 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-09 01:20:54
November 09 2025 01:04 GMT
#106959
why are people getting super excited about Mamdani stating he'll seize a landlord's building? every city in NA will take your building if you don't pay the property taxes on it. They'll also take it over if you leave it in a state of disrepair that lowers the property values of the properties beside it.

Mamdani's "sabre rattling" about taking over buildings is great theatrics but its also just standard activity against idiot property owners.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/zohran-mamdani-vows-control-back-130600774.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com&guccounter=
the city is taking over the building. We’re putting the worst landlords out of business

On November 09 2025 09:58 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 09:54 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 09:49 micronesia wrote:
On November 09 2025 09:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
To finalize my previous post about the Bronx, New York... it is a crying shame that MLB is no longer a poor man's sport.
On November 09 2025 09:24 micronesia wrote:
On November 09 2025 09:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 08:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 09 2025 07:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 06:31 Excludos wrote:
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
[quote]
Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?


Trump believes Tariff is a fee that other countries pay to him. He has absolutely no understanding of even basic economic concepts.

he remains more economically literate than Kamala Harris though.

Harris literally has a degree in economics.
Trump doesn't know what a tariff is, and he thought that the United States should declare bankruptcy and default on all its national debt.
But okay.

A university degree doesn't mean much.

Being the world's foremost economics expert with 5 PhDs and 2 nobel prizes doesn't mean much if you don't want it to.

The BA Kamala holds in Poli Sci. and Economics doesn't mean much.

You missed my point that without explaining why it's kind of a useless observation.

a respectable 4 year degree in Economics with a real math component has much more meaning than one of these "soft arts" Eco//Poli.Sci degrees.

I don't know what those degrees entail, but that's already a much more reasonable-looking claim than

Show nested quote +
A university degree doesn't mean much.

and i was referring to the singular degree Kamala Harris has related to Economics. Notice I'm replying to someone who says "Harris literally has a degree in economics".
On November 09 2025 10:02 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 07:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 06:31 Excludos wrote:
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?


Trump believes Tariff is a fee that other countries pay to him. He has absolutely no understanding of even basic economic concepts.

he remains more economically literate than Kamala Harris though.

And you're basing this on what exactly..?

The sum total of all their work. Both have extremely long track records. IMO, Trump > Harris.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45247 Posts
November 09 2025 02:32 GMT
#106960
On November 09 2025 09:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 08:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 09 2025 07:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 09 2025 06:31 Excludos wrote:
On November 09 2025 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 09 2025 03:36 micronesia wrote:
I was okay with the 1 year extension offer, followed by more negotiations for longer-term solutions.

I'm not going to answer all of your hypotheticals which you always love asking.

To be fair, it's what Trump is telling Republicans to do. It's not some hypothetical pulled from nowhere. It's a reasonable question about preferences between available probable options. Hiding one's preference only helps Trump and his agenda.

In the same post, Trump reiterated his call for terminating the filibuster, the Senate rule requiring 60 of its 100 members to pass most legislation. The GOP holds 53 seats in the Senate. There are 45 Democratic senators, and two independents who caucus with them.


And it's a lot more likely than the alternative "offer" Trump is floating

“I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the Hundreds of Billions of Dollars currently being sent to money sucking Insurance Companies in order to save the bad Healthcare provided by ObamaCare, BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE THEIR OWN, MUCH BETTER, HEALTHCARE, and have money left over,”


www.cnbc.com

Wait. How does Trump think subsidies work?


Trump believes Tariff is a fee that other countries pay to him. He has absolutely no understanding of even basic economic concepts.

he remains more economically literate than Kamala Harris though.

Harris literally has a degree in economics.
Trump doesn't know what a tariff is, and he thought that the United States should declare bankruptcy and default on all its national debt.
But okay.

A university degree doesn't mean much.

You're not going to be taken seriously with responses like this. It's not like she got her degree from a fraudulent company like Trump University.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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