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Hat Trick of Today
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17895 Posts
On November 04 2025 10:44 Hat Trick of Today wrote: All of that is nice sentiment and all but you do know what you voted for? The man and his high value supporters have told you exactly the type of immigration system they want, unfortunately you made it your colleague’s problem. Part of an effective immigration system is to prevent random people from entering the country. I trust Trump more than whatsherface to make that happen. I share Obama's view expressed in November, 2014. Its at 1 minute and 5 seconds. Obama discusses preventing illegals from entering the country earlier in this speech. Between 2009 and 2016 the Department of Homeland Security reported about 3 million formal removals, more than under any previous administration. https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-us-deported-more-130000074.html?guccounter=1 I prefer Obama's tone and delivery as opposed to Trump's communication style. Obama is not celebrating having to deport people. | ||
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Hat Trick of Today
202 Posts
If he wants to get into the US, he just has to go through the proper channels. They already exist. If he can’t get the right papers, he’s just not high value enough sorry. The contempt I have with the US immigration system is not that they are choosing to take a hard line but it’s the fact that they are using illegal immigration to prime domestic sentiment to be hostile towards visible foreigners like whole Hyundai visa fuckup. High value supporters and donors are still positioning themselves and policy in such a way they still have access to a captive (illegal) immigrant work force. It is a system whose only consistency is that monetary wealth is the only value that matters. | ||
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oBlade
United States6540 Posts
On November 04 2025 07:16 ChristianS wrote: Getting into what “clean CR” means in this context is the argument I was skipping with Intro, and I’ll skip it here if it’s all the same to you. It’s interesting, though, how ICE and Trump’s ballroom keep funding, even though embassy workers or soldiers or SNAP do not. What’s going on there, do you think? The ballroom is still privately funded. Congress passed a law to fund ICE months ago. They have not passed a law to fund SNAP and the military past the funding lapse at the end of the fiscal year, meaning the beginning of October. That is the extent of what is "going on." Congress has to pass laws to fund the government every year. The executive branch, meaning the government, can't just wizard itself money. | ||
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
On November 04 2025 13:22 oBlade wrote: The ballroom is still privately funded. Congress passed a law to fund ICE months ago. They have not passed a law to fund SNAP and the military past the funding lapse at the end of the fiscal year, meaning the beginning of October. That is the extent of what is "going on." Congress has to pass laws to fund the government every year. The executive branch, meaning the government, can't just wizard itself money. Sure, all of which to say when they wanted that stuff they were happy to find the votes, or maybe just schmooze up to their rich buddies and get it done that way. But food stamps? Fuck em. Health care premiums more than doubling? Oh we think that’s good actually. By their own admission they’re so determined to *ensuring* that people’s healthcare premiums go up that they’re willing to accept all the other consequences of the shutdown. I have no doubt Democrats would happily help them pass something that funded SNAP in the interim, but clearly Republicans have no interest in that either. And the procedural argument you’re making feels pretty hollow when they’re so happy to ignore procedure the rest of the time. Last shutdown ended when Trump decided to sidestep the appropriations process entirely and fund his wall with “emergency funds.” But 40 million Americans losing the money they depend on for food? Pff, that’s not an *emergency.* They can’t even make up their minds whether that’s *bad* or not. Again, I’m not predicting revolt but it’s hard to avoid the “let them eat cake” of the moment. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46484 Posts
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Uldridge
Belgium5226 Posts
Both the other dudes are more than double his age, ew. | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany1200 Posts
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/D-GbZlrOyZE | ||
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pmh
1416 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22630 Posts
On November 04 2025 18:21 pmh wrote: "I don't care about people suffering so long as I don't personally know them" is very on brand for the right wing so its really not surprising.Not 100% sure mamdani will win. I asume so he does apear to be very favored. But if all republicans and x percent of democrats vote cuomo then maybe not. Also it turns out you can just take away food assistance from the bottom 10% and noone really cares , this i didnt expect. Maybe they will still re-open this week but the damage is already done. Its a mistake to have let this happen i think. Whether its food, healthcare, deportation, social security. Its all the same, they want it gone until it affects them. | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany1200 Posts
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Uldridge
Belgium5226 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
On November 04 2025 19:15 KT_Elwood wrote: Cuomo is endorsed by Trump himself and this mayoral race basicly shows what is fucking wrong with Old-Dems and Maga being your only choices. yeah that basically should seal the deal for Zohran now. Trump has reached new "highs" of unpopularity. Democrats are more enthusiastic about the midterms as Trump’s approval hits a second-term low, CNN poll finds The fall of 2025 is not a replay of 2017, the year before the Democrats captured control of the US House in Trump’s first term. The Democrats’ 5-point advantage among registered voters in the generic congressional ballot falls short of the 11-point edge they held in CNN polling a year before the 2018 midterms. And favorable views of the party still stand near all-time lows as they have throughout this year, 8 points below where they were in the fall of Trump’s first year in office. In a midterm election year, though, views of the president can outweigh perceptions of the opposition party. Trump’s approval rating in the poll stands at 37%, the worst of his second term in CNN polling and roughly equivalent to his 36% approval rating at this point in his first term. And his disapproval rating, at 63%, is numerically the highest of either term, one point above the previous high of 62% as he was leaving office in January 2021. the general direction is clear, current Republican "policies" of torpedoing people's lifelihoods and constant BS/scandals are their own worst enemy. imagine if Dems had even half way capable leadership. I came across this gem last week: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-zYVRlAEgAA generally very disciplined and prepared in terms of messaging to the public Republicans are flailing left and right, speaker Johnson asked about one Trump indefensible idiocy after another claims ignorance as a "defense". and he is not the only one: ‘I Don’t Know Anything About It’: Sen. Markwayne Mullin Ducks Kaitlan Collins’ Question About Trump’s Crypto Pardon they are literally tripping over themselves trying to run from the doo-doo they made/allowed to happen, only to land in it. now granted, this is all apparent for people following the sad state of affairs. but the worse things get - and they are really not going great - even people generally checked out take notice. Most Americans say country is on the wrong track, blame Trump for inflation: Poll | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On November 04 2025 18:21 pmh wrote: Not 100% sure mamdani will win. I asume so he does apear to be very favored. But if all republicans and x percent of democrats vote cuomo then maybe not. Also it turns out you can just take away food assistance from the bottom 10% and noone really cares , this i didnt expect. Maybe they will still re-open this week but the damage is already done. Its a mistake to have let this happen i think. I believe not caring about your neighbor is the exact description of the average American today, and the direct cause of how they ended up where they are. "Fuck you got mine" is the epitome of the American Dream | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10960 Posts
FFS most out in the open dictators/despots put more effort into hiding their blatant corruption. | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1757 Posts
Thankfully he didn't die a violent death so we don't get to be accused of being domestic terrorists for not shedding a tear for this absolute shitstain of a human being. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46484 Posts
On November 04 2025 21:30 Jankisa wrote: So, it seems Dick Cheney died, one of the reasons for and architects of the fucked up world we live in now, if there is a hell, I'm sure he's headed there. Thankfully he didn't die a violent death so we don't get to be accused of being domestic terrorists for not shedding a tear for this absolute shitstain of a human being. Today is starting off with some good news then; let's hope to have more good news as we find out election results! | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1757 Posts
If someone is so vociferously opposed by Trump, Musk and every right-wing ghoul out there, to the point where Trump is shoving his own party's candidate under the bus and encouraging voting for a fellow sex criminal Cuomo he must be doing something right. And he just looks and feels so wholesome, it's a breath of fresh air coming from a place which has been emitting shitty dark smoke for almost a year now. | ||
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Billyboy
2463 Posts
“We have no inflation,” President Donald Trump said in his “60 Minutes” interview Sunday evening. “Our groceries are down.” You OK with him just blatantly lying? And do you think Republicans will not notice that prices are up because Trump said so? What a crazy world. | ||
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Razyda
1059 Posts
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1259908566061799 facebook is just Obama, youtube Obama starts at 0:38 (put two links as I dont know if everyone uses facebook) ""Think about this, shutting down the government just because you don’t like a law that was passed and found constitutional," "No Congress before this one has ever, ever, in history, been irresponsible enough to threaten default, to threaten an economic shutdown, to suggest America not pay its bills just to try to blackmail a president into giving them some concessions."" It is kinda funny. | ||
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