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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11607 Posts
12 hours ago
#106621
On October 27 2025 23:32 KT_Elwood wrote:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/27/politics/government-shutdown-snap-food-stamps

CNN has adopted MAGA-Wordings.
Show nested quote +

Democrats unflinching in shutdown strategy, blaming Trump with millions at risk of losing food aid


despite they also report what actually happens:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/24/politics/usda-contingency-fund-november-snap

Show nested quote +
Trump administration won’t use contingency fund to pay November food stamp benefits



Trump admin seems to have decided that USDA's 5 billion reserves will not be used to extend SNAP Benefits, shall the shutdown go on.

I am pretty sure that Trump admin wants to see either ICE-agents dragged through the streets or stores looted to send troops or declare martial law to take full control.

Or just put on the hurt and have the democrats cave.. and basicly in this way declare that they indeed have been the ones to blame for shut down.


I surely hope that the strategy of "We will hurt people until you give in and allow us to do what we want" doesn't win out in the end. Because at that point they can get whatever they want just by hurting people until everybody else gives in. Because clearly they don't care if they hurt americans.

Also, very sad that apparently there are few news stations willing to clearly put all the blame with the orange gang, where it belongs.
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1065 Posts
12 hours ago
#106622
Maga: "You get your food stamps in november and december, but we take your healthcare on january 1st."

I understand that even paying soldiers is now grinding to a halt.. will we see 21st century pirates with a full carrier strike group on the coast of Venezuela?

Can they be hired?
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia852 Posts
12 hours ago
#106623
It seems like CNN is closing in on flipping the switch over in to being state-run propaganda media.

If I'm not mistaken, Larry Elison's son is close to closing the deal for buying Warner Bros, so after he installed Barri Weiss as the head of programming at CBS they will do their best to take these 2 names that the Fox news crew thinks of the "left wing main stream media" and turn it in to whatever Trump & CO want.

So biggest media companies in the US are now more then 50 % MAGA (in my opinion CNN has been "neutrally" putting their thumb on the scale for Trump for a while, but this acquisition will make it official.

Fox has the biggest audience, very MAGA. Then you have the "dumb enough to sign the Pentagon directives" OAN and NewsMax to cover the rest of the crazies.

Twitter is a Nazi cesspool and owned by the richest Nazi in the world. Meta / Zuck is fully on board with this admin, kissed the ring and is sponsoring the ballroom. Same with Jeff "WaPO won't print anything anti-free market" Bezos and his portfolio.

TiKToK is now going to be owned by the Elisons, who also have CNN & CBS.

There might be elections, but they won't be fair. All the media that anyone pays attention to is under MAGA control.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23439 Posts
11 hours ago
#106624
AI surveillance of children in the US almost got an innocent child killed. One wrong move and the cops swarming him could have done what they do all too often.

Police officers swarmed a 16-year-old high school student last week after an artificial intelligence (AI) gun detection system mistakenly flagged his bag of chips as a firearm, leaving officials and students shaken.

Student Taki Allen was waiting for his ride at Kenwood High School in Essex, Maryland, last Monday when he placed an empty bag of chips in his pocket, according to WMAR-2 News. Moments later, police officers suddenly surrounded him, ordering him to the ground and handcuffing him, the local station reported.

"Police showed up, like eight cop cars, and then they all came out with guns pointed at me talking about getting on the ground. I was putting my hands up like, ‘What’s going on?’" Allen told WMAR-2.

"I guess just the way you guys were eating chips… It picked it up as a gun," a police officer told the students in the video. "AI's not the best."

"Our system operated as designed — it identified a possible threat, elevated it for human review, and relied on authorized safety personnel for final determination," the company told Fox News Digital

Allen, shaken by the incident, said he no longer feels safe going outside after football practice and that the incident should never have happened.

"I don't want - don't think I'm safe enough to go outside, especially eating a bag of chips or drinking something. I just stay inside until my ride comes," Allen added.


www.foxnews.com

It's worth better understanding how something like this used to be considered a dystopian authoritarian nightmare and then US society just integrated it.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44972 Posts
11 hours ago
#106625
"I guess just the way you guys were eating chips… It picked it up as a gun," a police officer told the students in the video. "AI's not the best."

Oh fuck all the way off, Mr. Police Officer.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11607 Posts
11 hours ago
#106626
On October 28 2025 01:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
AI surveillance of children in the US almost got an innocent child killed. One wrong move and the cops swarming him could have done what they do all too often.

Show nested quote +
Police officers swarmed a 16-year-old high school student last week after an artificial intelligence (AI) gun detection system mistakenly flagged his bag of chips as a firearm, leaving officials and students shaken.

Student Taki Allen was waiting for his ride at Kenwood High School in Essex, Maryland, last Monday when he placed an empty bag of chips in his pocket, according to WMAR-2 News. Moments later, police officers suddenly surrounded him, ordering him to the ground and handcuffing him, the local station reported.

"Police showed up, like eight cop cars, and then they all came out with guns pointed at me talking about getting on the ground. I was putting my hands up like, ‘What’s going on?’" Allen told WMAR-2.

"I guess just the way you guys were eating chips… It picked it up as a gun," a police officer told the students in the video. "AI's not the best."

"Our system operated as designed — it identified a possible threat, elevated it for human review, and relied on authorized safety personnel for final determination," the company told Fox News Digital

Allen, shaken by the incident, said he no longer feels safe going outside after football practice and that the incident should never have happened.

"I don't want - don't think I'm safe enough to go outside, especially eating a bag of chips or drinking something. I just stay inside until my ride comes," Allen added.


www.foxnews.com

It's worth better understanding how something like this used to be considered a dystopian authoritarian nightmare and then US society just integrated it.


Literally everything is horribly broken in that. Why do you have a surveillance system for students? Why does AI constantly monitor that system? Why is the AI so bad that it mistakes a bag of chips for a gun? Why did no human look at that video before a bunch of armed cops shout at a guy?

And last but not least: Why is interacting with cops so dangerous in the US? If the cops make everyone feel less save, why have the cops at all?
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1065 Posts
10 hours ago
#106627
If I was a billionaire hoping for (my?) human like armed robots and AI to take over the world, I'd request AI-Based surveillance of all peasants.

The Staatssicherheit and the Gestapo failed because no manpower in the world can control itself for ever.

AI can. If it makes mistakes... somebody dies.. but what the heck.. I'd keep those at least 10 miles off my bunker.

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"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23439 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-27 18:55:03
8 hours ago
#106628
On October 28 2025 01:06 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2025 01:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
AI surveillance of children in the US almost got an innocent child killed. One wrong move and the cops swarming him could have done what they do all too often.

Police officers swarmed a 16-year-old high school student last week after an artificial intelligence (AI) gun detection system mistakenly flagged his bag of chips as a firearm, leaving officials and students shaken.

Student Taki Allen was waiting for his ride at Kenwood High School in Essex, Maryland, last Monday when he placed an empty bag of chips in his pocket, according to WMAR-2 News. Moments later, police officers suddenly surrounded him, ordering him to the ground and handcuffing him, the local station reported.

"Police showed up, like eight cop cars, and then they all came out with guns pointed at me talking about getting on the ground. I was putting my hands up like, ‘What’s going on?’" Allen told WMAR-2.

"I guess just the way you guys were eating chips… It picked it up as a gun," a police officer told the students in the video. "AI's not the best."

"Our system operated as designed — it identified a possible threat, elevated it for human review, and relied on authorized safety personnel for final determination," the company told Fox News Digital

Allen, shaken by the incident, said he no longer feels safe going outside after football practice and that the incident should never have happened.

"I don't want - don't think I'm safe enough to go outside, especially eating a bag of chips or drinking something. I just stay inside until my ride comes," Allen added.


www.foxnews.com

It's worth better understanding how something like this used to be considered a dystopian authoritarian nightmare and then US society just integrated it.


Literally everything is horribly broken in that. Why do you have a surveillance system for students? Why does AI constantly monitor that system? Why is the AI so bad that it mistakes a bag of chips for a gun? Why did no human look at that video before a bunch of armed cops shout at a guy?

And last but not least: Why is interacting with cops so dangerous in the US? If the cops make everyone feel less save, why have the cops at all?


You trying to tell me having a bunch of cops point guns at your kid at school because AI surveillance caught him eating chips after football practice isn't the pinnacle of freedom in the world? That you'd expect someone to have some consequences for the trauma they inflicted, maybe at least an apology?

It's obviously pretty alarming thinking about how Trump and his minions will use this increasingly widespread surveillance state, and what kind of accountability we can expect for them when they do, but this example isn't even them.

So when you ask the why questions I can't help but conclude it is at least in part because no one is stopping them.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Phyanketto
Profile Joined September 2011
United States594 Posts
8 hours ago
#106629
On October 28 2025 01:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
"I guess just the way you guys were eating chips… It picked it up as a gun," a police officer told the students in the video. "AI's not the best."

Oh fuck all the way off, Mr. Police Officer.

if it was a white kid there would be more outrage, even from the baizuo
On October 28 2025 01:06 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2025 01:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
AI surveillance of children in the US almost got an innocent child killed. One wrong move and the cops swarming him could have done what they do all too often.

Police officers swarmed a 16-year-old high school student last week after an artificial intelligence (AI) gun detection system mistakenly flagged his bag of chips as a firearm, leaving officials and students shaken.

Student Taki Allen was waiting for his ride at Kenwood High School in Essex, Maryland, last Monday when he placed an empty bag of chips in his pocket, according to WMAR-2 News. Moments later, police officers suddenly surrounded him, ordering him to the ground and handcuffing him, the local station reported.

"Police showed up, like eight cop cars, and then they all came out with guns pointed at me talking about getting on the ground. I was putting my hands up like, ‘What’s going on?’" Allen told WMAR-2.

"I guess just the way you guys were eating chips… It picked it up as a gun," a police officer told the students in the video. "AI's not the best."

"Our system operated as designed — it identified a possible threat, elevated it for human review, and relied on authorized safety personnel for final determination," the company told Fox News Digital

Allen, shaken by the incident, said he no longer feels safe going outside after football practice and that the incident should never have happened.

"I don't want - don't think I'm safe enough to go outside, especially eating a bag of chips or drinking something. I just stay inside until my ride comes," Allen added.


www.foxnews.com

It's worth better understanding how something like this used to be considered a dystopian authoritarian nightmare and then US society just integrated it.


Literally everything is horribly broken in that. Why do you have a surveillance system for students? Why does AI constantly monitor that system? Why is the AI so bad that it mistakes a bag of chips for a gun? Why did no human look at that video before a bunch of armed cops shout at a guy?

And last but not least: Why is interacting with cops so dangerous in the US? If the cops make everyone feel less save, why have the cops at all?

A) the point is to cut down on the amount of people who have to devote attention to surveillance, which is the real horror when coupled with the fact that ideological crime is more and more prosecutable, or at least a more arrestable offense. B) they do not view shouting at/swarming/tackling/cuffing someone as something to be avoided, they think it is an acceptable preventative measure, and that if you aren't guilty it doesn't matter that it happened to you. Because by and large it doesn't happen to white/rich people without incontrovertible evidence of a crime.
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