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On October 26 2025 01:48 Introvert wrote:
If the case got there it's hard to see how the Supreme Court let's anyone even on the ballot when they are plainly ineligible (which he definitely is imo). Trump isn't serious anyways.
Trump is absolutely serious. Everything he's "joked" about he has done. And this is the same supreme court that gave him presidential immunity, legalized racial profiling, overturned roe v wade, and will likely overturn the voting rights act...they would absolutely let trump run again
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On October 26 2025 07:08 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2025 01:48 Introvert wrote:
If the case got there it's hard to see how the Supreme Court let's anyone even on the ballot when they are plainly ineligible (which he definitely is imo). Trump isn't serious anyways. Trump is absolutely serious. Everything he's "joked" about he has done. And this is the same supreme court that gave him presidential immunity, legalized racial profiling, overturned roe v wade, and will likely overturn the voting rights act...they would absolutely let trump run again
It is also very important that these people are very lawless. Trump wants to be a dictator. He doesn't give a fuck about what the law says. He will just do it and see if someone has the will and the power to stop him. As he has with all the other illegal stuff he constantly does as a president.
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I think if Republicans just asked themselves this one question for everything Trump has been doing, they would realize that everyone is not against conservatives (lots are) just that Trump is a corrupt moron. That question is, would I still think this policy or decision was good if Biden did it.
If Biden did Tariffs?
If Biden bailed out Argentina for 40 bn and then bought their beef?
If Biden accepted the billion dollar Jet he was going to keep for himself?
If Biden destroyed part of the Whitehouse to build a crazy large ballroom and had it anonymously funded?
If Biden was sending troops to red cities because he disagreed with their policing?
If Biden was pardoning convicted and self admitted guilty democrats?
If Biden was letting a guy the FBI caught taking 50000k in cash completely get away with it?
And so many more, conservatives should be just as mad at Trump.
Now if Dems want to get their commercials ready for the midterms and future they need to copy Canada and use Regan's own words against him. That absolutely shattered him!!!!
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On October 25 2025 20:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2025 07:30 WombaT wrote:
Trump really took not winning the Nobel Peace Prize badly He's pretty much the sorest loser of all time - given how he tried to overthrow the government after losing the 2020 election - so I think his decision to arrest, starve, and sicken Americans... while bulldozing part of the White House just so he can build the Epstein Ballroom... is on brand for Donald Trump.
What does the new East Wing have to do with Epstein?
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On October 26 2025 15:06 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2025 20:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 25 2025 07:30 WombaT wrote:
Trump really took not winning the Nobel Peace Prize badly He's pretty much the sorest loser of all time - given how he tried to overthrow the government after losing the 2020 election - so I think his decision to arrest, starve, and sicken Americans... while bulldozing part of the White House just so he can build the Epstein Ballroom... is on brand for Donald Trump. What does the new East Wing have to do with Epstein?
The guy demanding it is Epstein’s best friend.
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On October 26 2025 01:21 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2025 01:05 Gorsameth wrote:On October 26 2025 01:00 micronesia wrote:
Who said he would run for a third term? It's probably something stupid like JD Vance runs with Trump as VP, then they swap after inauguration day. as per the 12th amendment But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States Trump is no longer eligible to be a VP There is a legal argument that the "eligible" there applies to age, birthplace, and residency, not the 22nd amendment, which obviously came later. Not that Trump has a problem with violating amendments or that the courts are capable of stopping him anyway. Show nested quote +On October 26 2025 01:16 Acrofales wrote:On October 26 2025 00:47 GreenHorizons wrote:Bannon is teasing a Trump 2028 presidency. "Trump is going to be president in ’28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that," he told The Economist on Oct. 23.
"At the appropriate time, we’ll lay out what the plan is," Bannon said. "But there is a plan." www.usatoday.comWould Trump officially running for a third term be people's trigger point for leaving the US? Is it him winning a third term? Maybe if he takes a third term? Or do people have some other moment in mind that would make them pull the trigger on leaving the US/when they would advocate accepting anti-Trumpers as political refugees? Well, yes, he'll be president in 2028. Unless he dies. It's beyond inauguration day of 2029 that he should no longer be the president. I expected this post from oBlade, but yeah, he could be trolling. Reminds me of a line from a Nelly song. Show nested quote +I got a friend with a pole in the basement (What?)
I'm just kiddin' like Jason (Oh)
Unless you're gon' do it
Well, that's because oBlade likes to pounce on hyperbolic nonsense that is badly formulated. Like... what else could this mean?
1) Trump will still be president in 2029.
That would be terrifying. But luckily I'm not taking Steve Bannon seriously.
2) Trump will be reelected in 2028.
That at least means there'll be elections. And somehow Trump is going to be on the ballot in enough states to get elected. That seems unlikely. The more likely route for (1) to happen, imho, is that there is a "crisis" and elections are suspended.
I'd hope that a manufactured crisis and the suspension of elections would lead to mass civil disobedience and such unrest that Congress will be forced to impeach Trump and start the election process immediately. But maybe instead you're fast tracking totalitarian crackdowns more effectively than it looks like from over here.
But rather than discussing these two potential explanations for the imprecise language, I'd rather just not discuss anything sourced to Steve Bannon. So I pointed out the idiotic language. Do better with both the language and the sourcing.
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On October 26 2025 10:15 Billyboy wrote:
I think if Republicans just asked themselves this one question for everything Trump has been doing, they would realize that everyone is not against conservatives (lots are) just that Trump is a corrupt moron. That question is, would I still think this policy or decision was good if Biden did it.
If Biden did Tariffs?
If Biden bailed out Argentina for 40 bn and then bought their beef?
If Biden accepted the billion dollar Jet he was going to keep for himself?
If Biden destroyed part of the Whitehouse to build a crazy large ballroom and had it anonymously funded?
If Biden was sending troops to red cities because he disagreed with their policing?
If Biden was pardoning convicted and self admitted guilty democrats?
If Biden was letting a guy the FBI caught taking 50000k in cash completely get away with it?
And so many more, conservatives should be just as mad at Trump.
Now if Dems want to get their commercials ready for the midterms and future they need to copy Canada and use Regan's own words against him. That absolutely shattered him!!!!
Sadly, that doesn't work. They just cannot understand that comparison. We have seen this for decades now. The Republican brain just doesn't work that way.
Biden is a bad guy, so obviously him doing those things would be bad.
Trump is a good guy, so him doing the things he does must be good.
That is literally all analysis they do. Find out who did a thing, then they know if it is bad or good. They cannot make the leap of "If Biden did this I would think it is bad, so i should also think it is bad if Trump does it." because to them, something being good or bad is not really linked to the action itself. It is only linked to the team doing it. Support your team, fight the other team.
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On October 26 2025 19:05 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2025 10:15 Billyboy wrote:
I think if Republicans just asked themselves this one question for everything Trump has been doing, they would realize that everyone is not against conservatives (lots are) just that Trump is a corrupt moron. That question is, would I still think this policy or decision was good if Biden did it.
If Biden did Tariffs?
If Biden bailed out Argentina for 40 bn and then bought their beef?
If Biden accepted the billion dollar Jet he was going to keep for himself?
If Biden destroyed part of the Whitehouse to build a crazy large ballroom and had it anonymously funded?
If Biden was sending troops to red cities because he disagreed with their policing?
If Biden was pardoning convicted and self admitted guilty democrats?
If Biden was letting a guy the FBI caught taking 50000k in cash completely get away with it?
And so many more, conservatives should be just as mad at Trump.
Now if Dems want to get their commercials ready for the midterms and future they need to copy Canada and use Regan's own words against him. That absolutely shattered him!!!! Sadly, that doesn't work. They just cannot understand that comparison. We have seen this for decades now. The Republican brain just doesn't work that way. Biden is a bad guy, so obviously him doing those things would be bad. Trump is a good guy, so him doing the things he does must be good. That is literally all analysis they do. Find out who did a thing, then they know if it is bad or good. They cannot make the leap of "If Biden did this I would think it is bad, so i should also think it is bad if Trump does it." because to them, something being good or bad is not really linked to the action itself. It is only linked to the team doing it. Support your team, fight the other team.
Tbf, there's a truckload of context missing for all of those points. If Biden bailed out Argentina, for instance, I'd probably be cheering. And I suspect Biden would also tie that bailout to political conditions for the government of the country. The difference is he would be more diplomatic about it. There would be lost of conditions such as "guarantee free and fair elections" or "set up an independent anti-corruption taskforce". Trump just sticks his foot in it in a way that pisses off everybody who isn't already in love with Trump. Functionally Trump could've achieved the exact same effect if he had simply tied the bailout to such conditions such as "trim down the government", "cut the government budget by X-billion USD", etc. that only Milei is interested in doing. Instead he tied it personally to the man, like a classical mobster racketeer. And for obvious reasons, people object.
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On October 26 2025 19:05 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2025 10:15 Billyboy wrote:
I think if Republicans just asked themselves this one question for everything Trump has been doing, they would realize that everyone is not against conservatives (lots are) just that Trump is a corrupt moron. That question is, would I still think this policy or decision was good if Biden did it.
If Biden did Tariffs?
If Biden bailed out Argentina for 40 bn and then bought their beef?
If Biden accepted the billion dollar Jet he was going to keep for himself?
If Biden destroyed part of the Whitehouse to build a crazy large ballroom and had it anonymously funded?
If Biden was sending troops to red cities because he disagreed with their policing?
If Biden was pardoning convicted and self admitted guilty democrats?
If Biden was letting a guy the FBI caught taking 50000k in cash completely get away with it?
And so many more, conservatives should be just as mad at Trump.
Now if Dems want to get their commercials ready for the midterms and future they need to copy Canada and use Regan's own words against him. That absolutely shattered him!!!! Sadly, that doesn't work. They just cannot understand that comparison. We have seen this for decades now. The Republican brain just doesn't work that way. Biden is a bad guy, so obviously him doing those things would be bad. Trump is a good guy, so him doing the things he does must be good. That is literally all analysis they do. Find out who did a thing, then they know if it is bad or good. They cannot make the leap of "If Biden did this I would think it is bad, so i should also think it is bad if Trump does it." because to them, something being good or bad is not really linked to the action itself. It is only linked to the team doing it. Support your team, fight the other team.
I think there is a large overlap with how religious people think. If God sanctions slavery, murder, or genocide, those things are good. It's also how Putin supporters in Russia think. They have no opinions on policy. They simply believe whatever Putin decides must be good.
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On October 26 2025 18:59 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2025 00:47 GreenHorizons wrote:Bannon is teasing a Trump 2028 presidency. "Trump is going to be president in ’28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that," he told The Economist on Oct. 23.
"At the appropriate time, we’ll lay out what the plan is," Bannon said. "But there is a plan." www.usatoday.comWould Trump officially running for a third term be people's trigger point for leaving the US? Is it him winning a third term? Maybe if he takes a third term? Or do people have some other moment in mind that would make them pull the trigger on leaving the US/when they would advocate accepting anti-Trumpers as political refugees? Show nested quote +On October 26 2025 01:21 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 26 2025 01:05 Gorsameth wrote:On October 26 2025 01:00 micronesia wrote:
Who said he would run for a third term? It's probably something stupid like JD Vance runs with Trump as VP, then they swap after inauguration day. as per the 12th amendment But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States Trump is no longer eligible to be a VP There is a legal argument that the "eligible" there applies to age, birthplace, and residency, not the 22nd amendment, which obviously came later. Not that Trump has a problem with violating amendments or that the courts are capable of stopping him anyway. On October 26 2025 01:16 Acrofales wrote:On October 26 2025 00:47 GreenHorizons wrote:Bannon is teasing a Trump 2028 presidency. "Trump is going to be president in ’28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that," he told The Economist on Oct. 23.
"At the appropriate time, we’ll lay out what the plan is," Bannon said. "But there is a plan." www.usatoday.comWould Trump officially running for a third term be people's trigger point for leaving the US? Is it him winning a third term? Maybe if he takes a third term? Or do people have some other moment in mind that would make them pull the trigger on leaving the US/when they would advocate accepting anti-Trumpers as political refugees? Well, yes, he'll be president in 2028. Unless he dies. It's beyond inauguration day of 2029 that he should no longer be the president. I expected this post from oBlade, but yeah, he could be trolling. Reminds me of a line from a Nelly song. I got a friend with a pole in the basement (What?)
I'm just kiddin' like Jason (Oh)
Unless you're gon' do it Well, that's because oBlade likes to pounce on hyperbolic nonsense that is badly formulated. Like... what else could this mean? 1) Trump will still be president in 2029. That would be terrifying. But luckily I'm not taking Steve Bannon seriously. 2) Trump will be reelected in 2028. That at least means there'll be elections. And somehow Trump is going to be on the ballot in enough states to get elected. That seems unlikely. The more likely route for (1) to happen, imho, is that there is a "crisis" and elections are suspended. I'd hope that a manufactured crisis and the suspension of elections would lead to mass civil disobedience and such unrest that Congress will be forced to impeach Trump and start the election process immediately. But maybe instead you're fast tracking totalitarian crackdowns more effectively than it looks like from over here. But rather than discussing these two potential explanations for the imprecise language, I'd rather just not discuss anything sourced to Steve Bannon. So I pointed out the idiotic language. Do better with both the language and the sourcing.
For anyone that thought the 2028 premise was not plausible, the reasonable thing imo would be to address the question: do people have some other moment in mind that would make them pull the trigger on leaving the US/when they would advocate accepting anti-Trumpers as political refugees?
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On October 26 2025 20:47 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2025 18:59 Acrofales wrote:On October 26 2025 00:47 GreenHorizons wrote:Bannon is teasing a Trump 2028 presidency. "Trump is going to be president in ’28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that," he told The Economist on Oct. 23.
"At the appropriate time, we’ll lay out what the plan is," Bannon said. "But there is a plan." www.usatoday.comWould Trump officially running for a third term be people's trigger point for leaving the US? Is it him winning a third term? Maybe if he takes a third term? Or do people have some other moment in mind that would make them pull the trigger on leaving the US/when they would advocate accepting anti-Trumpers as political refugees? On October 26 2025 01:21 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 26 2025 01:05 Gorsameth wrote:On October 26 2025 01:00 micronesia wrote:
Who said he would run for a third term? It's probably something stupid like JD Vance runs with Trump as VP, then they swap after inauguration day. as per the 12th amendment But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States Trump is no longer eligible to be a VP There is a legal argument that the "eligible" there applies to age, birthplace, and residency, not the 22nd amendment, which obviously came later. Not that Trump has a problem with violating amendments or that the courts are capable of stopping him anyway. On October 26 2025 01:16 Acrofales wrote:On October 26 2025 00:47 GreenHorizons wrote:Bannon is teasing a Trump 2028 presidency. "Trump is going to be president in ’28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that," he told The Economist on Oct. 23.
"At the appropriate time, we’ll lay out what the plan is," Bannon said. "But there is a plan." www.usatoday.comWould Trump officially running for a third term be people's trigger point for leaving the US? Is it him winning a third term? Maybe if he takes a third term? Or do people have some other moment in mind that would make them pull the trigger on leaving the US/when they would advocate accepting anti-Trumpers as political refugees? Well, yes, he'll be president in 2028. Unless he dies. It's beyond inauguration day of 2029 that he should no longer be the president. I expected this post from oBlade, but yeah, he could be trolling. Reminds me of a line from a Nelly song. I got a friend with a pole in the basement (What?)
I'm just kiddin' like Jason (Oh)
Unless you're gon' do it Well, that's because oBlade likes to pounce on hyperbolic nonsense that is badly formulated. Like... what else could this mean? 1) Trump will still be president in 2029. That would be terrifying. But luckily I'm not taking Steve Bannon seriously. 2) Trump will be reelected in 2028. That at least means there'll be elections. And somehow Trump is going to be on the ballot in enough states to get elected. That seems unlikely. The more likely route for (1) to happen, imho, is that there is a "crisis" and elections are suspended. I'd hope that a manufactured crisis and the suspension of elections would lead to mass civil disobedience and such unrest that Congress will be forced to impeach Trump and start the election process immediately. But maybe instead you're fast tracking totalitarian crackdowns more effectively than it looks like from over here. But rather than discussing these two potential explanations for the imprecise language, I'd rather just not discuss anything sourced to Steve Bannon. So I pointed out the idiotic language. Do better with both the language and the sourcing. For anyone that thought the 2028 premise was not plausible, the reasonable thing imo would be to address the question: Show nested quote +do people have some other moment in mind that would make them pull the trigger on leaving the US/when they would advocate accepting anti-Trumpers as political refugees?
I think I’d advocate other countries (Europe or Canada seem like the obvious choices) accept emigres already. That’s basically plasmidghost, right? I’ve never tried to expatriate, but my understanding is Americans don’t generally have much trouble if they want to.
Personally I don’t think I’ll be running though. This is where I belong, I’d rather try to figure out how to oppose them here than try to hide from the worst effects. And besides, if fascists consolidate power over the (admittedly weakened) hegemonic power in the globe, the consequences for the rest of the globe won’t be far behind anyway.
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On October 26 2025 19:05 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2025 10:15 Billyboy wrote:
I think if Republicans just asked themselves this one question for everything Trump has been doing, they would realize that everyone is not against conservatives (lots are) just that Trump is a corrupt moron. That question is, would I still think this policy or decision was good if Biden did it.
If Biden did Tariffs?
If Biden bailed out Argentina for 40 bn and then bought their beef?
If Biden accepted the billion dollar Jet he was going to keep for himself?
If Biden destroyed part of the Whitehouse to build a crazy large ballroom and had it anonymously funded?
If Biden was sending troops to red cities because he disagreed with their policing?
If Biden was pardoning convicted and self admitted guilty democrats?
If Biden was letting a guy the FBI caught taking 50000k in cash completely get away with it?
And so many more, conservatives should be just as mad at Trump.
Now if Dems want to get their commercials ready for the midterms and future they need to copy Canada and use Regan's own words against him. That absolutely shattered him!!!! Sadly, that doesn't work. They just cannot understand that comparison. We have seen this for decades now. The Republican brain just doesn't work that way. Biden is a bad guy, so obviously him doing those things would be bad. Trump is a good guy, so him doing the things he does must be good. That is literally all analysis they do. Find out who did a thing, then they know if it is bad or good. They cannot make the leap of "If Biden did this I would think it is bad, so i should also think it is bad if Trump does it." because to them, something being good or bad is not really linked to the action itself. It is only linked to the team doing it. Support your team, fight the other team.
It's very true. Republican's are not the only group that does this, but they seem like the greatest offender these days. It is so strange that Trump basically has fanboys/girls. Especially with the seemingly unlimited amount of embarrassing videos. I just saw him dancing in Malaysia, anyone who was with their grandpa when he did that would be so embarrassed, yet 100m Americans and who knows how many globally are like "wow he's so cool".
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On October 26 2025 22:19 ChristianS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2025 20:47 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 26 2025 18:59 Acrofales wrote:On October 26 2025 00:47 GreenHorizons wrote:Bannon is teasing a Trump 2028 presidency. "Trump is going to be president in ’28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that," he told The Economist on Oct. 23.
"At the appropriate time, we’ll lay out what the plan is," Bannon said. "But there is a plan." www.usatoday.comWould Trump officially running for a third term be people's trigger point for leaving the US? Is it him winning a third term? Maybe if he takes a third term? Or do people have some other moment in mind that would make them pull the trigger on leaving the US/when they would advocate accepting anti-Trumpers as political refugees? On October 26 2025 01:21 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 26 2025 01:05 Gorsameth wrote:On October 26 2025 01:00 micronesia wrote:
Who said he would run for a third term? It's probably something stupid like JD Vance runs with Trump as VP, then they swap after inauguration day. as per the 12th amendment But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States Trump is no longer eligible to be a VP There is a legal argument that the "eligible" there applies to age, birthplace, and residency, not the 22nd amendment, which obviously came later. Not that Trump has a problem with violating amendments or that the courts are capable of stopping him anyway. On October 26 2025 01:16 Acrofales wrote:On October 26 2025 00:47 GreenHorizons wrote:Bannon is teasing a Trump 2028 presidency. "Trump is going to be president in ’28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that," he told The Economist on Oct. 23.
"At the appropriate time, we’ll lay out what the plan is," Bannon said. "But there is a plan." www.usatoday.comWould Trump officially running for a third term be people's trigger point for leaving the US? Is it him winning a third term? Maybe if he takes a third term? Or do people have some other moment in mind that would make them pull the trigger on leaving the US/when they would advocate accepting anti-Trumpers as political refugees? Well, yes, he'll be president in 2028. Unless he dies. It's beyond inauguration day of 2029 that he should no longer be the president. I expected this post from oBlade, but yeah, he could be trolling. Reminds me of a line from a Nelly song. I got a friend with a pole in the basement (What?)
I'm just kiddin' like Jason (Oh)
Unless you're gon' do it Well, that's because oBlade likes to pounce on hyperbolic nonsense that is badly formulated. Like... what else could this mean? 1) Trump will still be president in 2029. That would be terrifying. But luckily I'm not taking Steve Bannon seriously. 2) Trump will be reelected in 2028. That at least means there'll be elections. And somehow Trump is going to be on the ballot in enough states to get elected. That seems unlikely. The more likely route for (1) to happen, imho, is that there is a "crisis" and elections are suspended. I'd hope that a manufactured crisis and the suspension of elections would lead to mass civil disobedience and such unrest that Congress will be forced to impeach Trump and start the election process immediately. But maybe instead you're fast tracking totalitarian crackdowns more effectively than it looks like from over here. But rather than discussing these two potential explanations for the imprecise language, I'd rather just not discuss anything sourced to Steve Bannon. So I pointed out the idiotic language. Do better with both the language and the sourcing. For anyone that thought the 2028 premise was not plausible, the reasonable thing imo would be to address the question: do people have some other moment in mind that would make them pull the trigger on leaving the US/when they would advocate accepting anti-Trumpers as political refugees?
I think I’d advocate other countries (Europe or Canada seem like the obvious choices) accept emigres already. That’s basically plasmidghost, right? I’ve never tried to expatriate, but my understanding is Americans don’t generally have much trouble if they want to. Personally I don’t think I’ll be running though. This is where I belong, I’d rather try to figure out how to oppose them here than try to hide from the worst effects. And besides, if fascists consolidate power over the (admittedly weakened) hegemonic power in the globe, the consequences for the rest of the globe won’t be far behind anyway.
Poor people generally do have trouble leaving. Same for people that have been criminalized.
Has everyone decided against leaving/advising people to leave, or are people just not sure what their trigger point for leaving/considering anti-Trump Americans as refugees might actually be?
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On October 26 2025 15:06 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2025 20:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 25 2025 07:30 WombaT wrote:
Trump really took not winning the Nobel Peace Prize badly He's pretty much the sorest loser of all time - given how he tried to overthrow the government after losing the 2020 election - so I think his decision to arrest, starve, and sicken Americans... while bulldozing part of the White House just so he can build the Epstein Ballroom... is on brand for Donald Trump. What does the new East Wing have to do with Epstein?
I leave this thread and come back every six weeks and without a doubt I'll find oBlade being a complete knob. Find better heroes that aren't rapist paeds, mate.
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On October 26 2025 15:06 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2025 20:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 25 2025 07:30 WombaT wrote:
Trump really took not winning the Nobel Peace Prize badly He's pretty much the sorest loser of all time - given how he tried to overthrow the government after losing the 2020 election - so I think his decision to arrest, starve, and sicken Americans... while bulldozing part of the White House just so he can build the Epstein Ballroom... is on brand for Donald Trump. What does the new East Wing have to do with Epstein?
The fact that Trump bulldozing part of the White House to put up a gaudy ballroom is just another distraction from the facts that he is also destroying America and almost certainly sexually abused children with his best friend Jeffrey Epstein, just like how we know Trump also sexually abused adults. One half of the country doesn't care, but the other half does.
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I have started to wonder what people have historically viewed as the Left's main fears about the USA, and which of those are currently being shown as correct and which are still considered to be delusional fearmongering or propaganda. Trump seems to have brought everything out in the open at least partly because of incompetence, but it is hard to see how, for example, Bush or even Obama was not willing to covertly pressure other countries. Placing tariffs on a country because of an advertisement is direct, but messing with loans and trade deals is still pressuring —more diplomatic, tho.
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On October 27 2025 00:05 Billyboy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2025 19:05 Simberto wrote:On October 26 2025 10:15 Billyboy wrote:
I think if Republicans just asked themselves this one question for everything Trump has been doing, they would realize that everyone is not against conservatives (lots are) just that Trump is a corrupt moron. That question is, would I still think this policy or decision was good if Biden did it.
If Biden did Tariffs?
If Biden bailed out Argentina for 40 bn and then bought their beef?
If Biden accepted the billion dollar Jet he was going to keep for himself?
If Biden destroyed part of the Whitehouse to build a crazy large ballroom and had it anonymously funded?
If Biden was sending troops to red cities because he disagreed with their policing?
If Biden was pardoning convicted and self admitted guilty democrats?
If Biden was letting a guy the FBI caught taking 50000k in cash completely get away with it?
And so many more, conservatives should be just as mad at Trump.
Now if Dems want to get their commercials ready for the midterms and future they need to copy Canada and use Regan's own words against him. That absolutely shattered him!!!! Sadly, that doesn't work. They just cannot understand that comparison. We have seen this for decades now. The Republican brain just doesn't work that way. Biden is a bad guy, so obviously him doing those things would be bad. Trump is a good guy, so him doing the things he does must be good. That is literally all analysis they do. Find out who did a thing, then they know if it is bad or good. They cannot make the leap of "If Biden did this I would think it is bad, so i should also think it is bad if Trump does it." because to them, something being good or bad is not really linked to the action itself. It is only linked to the team doing it. Support your team, fight the other team. It's very true. Republican's are not the only group that does this, but they seem like the greatest offender these days. It is so strange that Trump basically has fanboys/girls. Especially with the seemingly unlimited amount of embarrassing videos. I just saw him dancing in Malaysia, anyone who was with their grandpa when he did that would be so embarrassed, yet 100m Americans and who knows how many globally are like "wow he's so cool".
Stupid, ignorant, racist, belligerent and still obscenely powerful so as to basically never be held accountable seems like the modern-day american dream for many.
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On October 27 2025 02:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2025 15:06 oBlade wrote:On October 25 2025 20:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 25 2025 07:30 WombaT wrote:
Trump really took not winning the Nobel Peace Prize badly He's pretty much the sorest loser of all time - given how he tried to overthrow the government after losing the 2020 election - so I think his decision to arrest, starve, and sicken Americans... while bulldozing part of the White House just so he can build the Epstein Ballroom... is on brand for Donald Trump. What does the new East Wing have to do with Epstein? The fact that Trump bulldozing part of the White House to put up a gaudy ballroom is just another distraction from the facts that he is also destroying America and almost certainly sexually abused children with his best friend Jeffrey Epstein, just like how we know Trump also sexually abused adults. One half of the country doesn't care, but the other half does.
The most bonkers thing is the half that doesn’t care, really cared not too long ago. Not just about Epstein either, they were well on the money and had cracked the code on Satanic child abusing cabals operating out of pizza parlours!
Ok half the country is a stretch, inb4ing that.
There’s a lot of talk about disruptive technologies like ‘AI’ and it fucking over people in many an industry, but surely that’s got nothing on how disruptive the state of modern politics is on the job of political satirists.
Trump’s response to the No Kings protests was to post an AI generated video of him with a crown flying around with a plane shitting on protestors? Hey that’s a pretty good bit, ridiculous but does fit his character. Wait, that’s not a bit you’re just describing what happened?
It’s completely fucking bonkers.
The ratios all feel totally off. To broad brush it ‘Yeah I know he’s a cunt with a complete lack of decorum or (insert 15 other things a President should embody), but I ain’t voting Dem!’ should be like, the majority position on that side of the aisle. Then people who’ll hand wave a bit, and the smallest cohort should be those who basically cheer anything he does.
Instead, at least in terms of visible discourse the former is like, the minority position for some reason?
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Major corporations turn to fascism well before the country does.
To avoid a class war from increasing disparities it‘s necessary for them to create enemies within and outside.
It‘s irrelevant to them if someone running the country has a criminal record.
It‘s only important for them that the population gets told who to shoot at.
Epstein was probably an issue for both parties.
Both had terms and none published anything.
If he‘s going to send carriers to Venezuela he might as welll be upfront about it and say it‘s for the oil reserves. Not narcoterrorists lol.
America should just produce cocaine at home and sell it at dumping prices. That‘ll force the narcoterrorists to load their u-boats with carrots or cabbages or whatever.
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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/27/politics/government-shutdown-snap-food-stamps
CNN has adopted MAGA-Wordings.
Democrats unflinching in shutdown strategy, blaming Trump with millions at risk of losing food aid
despite they also report what actually happens:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/24/politics/usda-contingency-fund-november-snap
Trump administration won’t use contingency fund to pay November food stamp benefits
Trump admin seems to have decided that USDA's 5 billion reserves will not be used to extend SNAP Benefits, shall the shutdown go on.
I am pretty sure that Trump admin wants to see either ICE-agents dragged through the streets or stores looted to send troops or declare martial law to take full control.
Or just put on the hurt and have the democrats cave.. and basicly in this way declare that they indeed have been the ones to blame for shut down.
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