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On September 26 2025 01:53 Uldridge wrote:
First class gaslighting lol. Tell those being gaslit they're the actual gaslighters! Let's tumble down the rabbit hole in perpetuum, oBlade!
I said politicians and media figures.
Do you think people are gaslighting, for example, Schumer and Clinton and Obama and CNN talking heads? Who are they victims of exactly?
I want to take the time to understand what you mean before just replying under the assumption you only read the shape of what I said and not the words.
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The right has apparently figured out it doesn't matter how many people they murder, as long as their trusted news sources only cover alleged left-wing violence then they can say "the violent left" all they like with zero repercussions. Post-truth societies are awesome.
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On September 26 2025 02:01 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2025 01:53 Uldridge wrote:
First class gaslighting lol. Tell those being gaslit they're the actual gaslighters! Let's tumble down the rabbit hole in perpetuum, oBlade! I said politicians and media figures. Do you think people are gaslighting, for example, Schumer and Clinton and Obama and CNN talking heads? Who are they victims of exactly? I want to take the time to understand what you mean before just replying under the assumption you only read the shape of what I said and not the words.
For who are these messages? Who acts upon these messages?
It's not just mediafigures conjuring up a mirage of tribalism, it's the people who take that message by heart and then repeat it verbatim because they've been stuck in the echochamber for far too long.
The message is the same all the way down the chain. Don't think I've heard any large mediafigure or politician on the left say: "but they're nazis though".
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On September 26 2025 01:13 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2025 00:51 Magic Powers wrote:On September 25 2025 22:09 Introvert wrote:On September 25 2025 19:37 oBlade wrote:On September 25 2025 18:37 MJG wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y4de02x3woIs it a realistic possibility that the US Government is going to go into shut down, or will the Democrats fold? This seems like the kind of tactic that the Republicans have been perfectly happy to use to get their way when a Democrat has been in the White House, but that Democrats are unwilling to use when a Republican is in the White House. Democrats caused the longest shutdown ever in Trump's first term. You probably don't remember because it's the government, so nobody noticed they stopped doing nothing. On September 25 2025 13:52 Phyanketto wrote:
So how we feeling on the ice shooter? The fact that "anti-ice" was written on the casings is pretty braindead. He attacked a facility and only killed detainees, but all the news and government talking heads are speaking like ice agents themselves were the ones injured and killed. Prima facie idiocy, even. Luigi really did a number on these people that every staged event now has bullets with writing on them, and they keep getting dumber and dumber.
Kash can't even stage a false flag right. I'm not the only one who thinks that's what this is right? Eventually they're going to find the shooter was trans or something, mark my words, because they can't stop themselves from double dipping every time. ICE was obviously the target. There is no contingent of people who are mad at ICE for detaining and deporting people instead of executing them, who would write "FUCK ICE" on bullets, snipe carefully at an ICE facility avoiding killing the hero ICE agents that the shooter is mad aren't doing what they're supposed to which is kill, and then commit suicide, rather than just shooting all the brown people he sees, like the guy in El Paso did. It doesn't make a lick of sense. The government can write on a shell casing with a marker, sure, anyone could do that. But they can't find someone to do a mission like that and shoot themselves, they can't find someone they would trust not to expose the conspiracy, and they can't find someone who they could promise wouldn't get caught or shot and believe it, after every single other person has been caught or shot. I like the thread dichotomy between "the fascists deserve it and whst did they expect?" with "these recent shootings are actually right-wing." I understand why they don't like the bullets though, it makes it harder to pin an event on their preferred target in the immediate aftermath. Meanwhile we are to assume that since he shot into a van he couldn't see into and hit people he didnt intend, it's a false flag. A very devoted one, since the shooter killed himself after, as you said. But maybe Luigi was a false flag, after all the person he killed was head of a company that didnt do anything to him. And no one pushed back on this as of yet. Really losing it in here recently. You're thinking of a conspiracy. False flag is false identification, e.g. as a disguise or redirection of blame. Let me clarify. The belief that the ICE shooting was a false flag operation is a conspiracy theory.
It's a reasonable suspicion based on previous behavior by dictatorships and specifically ICE. Calling 9/11 an inside job is a conspiracy theory.
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On September 26 2025 02:20 Uldridge wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2025 02:01 oBlade wrote:On September 26 2025 01:53 Uldridge wrote:
First class gaslighting lol. Tell those being gaslit they're the actual gaslighters! Let's tumble down the rabbit hole in perpetuum, oBlade! I said politicians and media figures. Do you think people are gaslighting, for example, Schumer and Clinton and Obama and CNN talking heads? Who are they victims of exactly? I want to take the time to understand what you mean before just replying under the assumption you only read the shape of what I said and not the words. For who are these messages? Who acts upon these messages? It's not just mediafigures conjuring up a mirage of tribalism, it's the people who take that message by heart and then repeat it verbatim because they've been stuck in the echochamber for far too long. The message is the same all the way down the chain. Don't think I've heard any large mediafigure or politician on the left say: "but they're nazis though".
I see the idea now but I tend on the side normal people are largely not deliberately bad actors, but have been tricked, whereas people of status at the forefront of something tend to have usually at least some idea what they're doing. Every Congressional hearing I watch my "sniveling weasel" meter redlines. Every street interview video I watch it's about half people with no ability to articulate anything or any background knowledge of anything, which is fine, but then among the left interviewed, a noticeable amount additionally have a dangerous combination of pride, insecurity, and hatred. That they again can't express clearly but you can see is coming from a deep unhappiness that someone is profiting from kindling in them.
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Yes oBlade, only left-wingers and normal people exist. There are no right-wingers. Also, only left-wingers are insecure and unhappy (but also prideful!) and express hatred. Anyone who isn't left would neeeeever.
I wanna know where you get your talking points from. This is funny.
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On September 26 2025 03:05 Magic Powers wrote:
Yes oBlade, only left-wingers and normal people exist. There are no right-wingers. Also, only left-wingers are insecure and unhappy (but also prideful!) and express hatred. Anyone who isn't left would neeeeever.
I wanna know where you get your talking points from. This is funny.
Start with where you get my talking points from because they definitely aren't from my posts.
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On September 26 2025 03:07 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2025 03:05 Magic Powers wrote:
Yes oBlade, only left-wingers and normal people exist. There are no right-wingers. Also, only left-wingers are insecure and unhappy (but also prideful!) and express hatred. Anyone who isn't left would neeeeever.
I wanna know where you get your talking points from. This is funny. Start with where you get my talking points from because they definitely aren't from my posts.
I see the idea now but I tend on the side normal people are largely not deliberately bad actors, but have been tricked, whereas people of status at the forefront of something tend to have usually at least some idea what they're doing. Every Congressional hearing I watch my "sniveling weasel" meter redlines. Every street interview video I watch it's about half people with no ability to articulate anything or any background knowledge of anything, which is fine, but then among the left interviewed, a noticeable amount additionally have a dangerous combination of pride, insecurity, and hatred. That they again can't express clearly but you can see is coming from a deep unhappiness that someone is profiting from kindling in them.
Anyone who's left-wing is painted as dangerously prideful, insecure, hateful and deeply unhappy. Not a single mention of non-left-wingers other than "normal people" and those who have no background knowledge. No right-wingers appear to exist. Left-wingers are the only problem.
Yeah, I'm 99% certain I interpreted your comment correctly.
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On September 26 2025 01:50 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2025 00:42 Jankisa wrote:
Did you read the article?
I am all for US government trying to address the male loneliness epidemic, mental health crisis, online radicalization, social media and other issues that cause these folks to go off the rails, unfortunately, you and them aren't interested in that.
And yes, it's a pattern, it's been a pattern since at least the Christchurch shooter, these people don't have a cohesive political identity or ideas, they are agents of chaos and that's what they try to do.
To you, they are useful because you want to be violent to "others". Be it immigrants, leftists, trans people, black people because you are a fascist boot licker.
The other thing that you clearly don't understand that the left's, especially liberal ideology is almost exclusively non violent. This is not something you can understand because it's beyond your limited comprehension of the world.
Hope this explains it for you sufficiently. You desperately need a reintroduction to politics if you believe the US government needs to address the male loneliness epidemic in Christchurch, New Zealand. If you want to define the left as non-violent, so any violence that exists is automatically not leftist, you can. Do you think that's going to fool adults? The truth is it needs to be quite a bit more "almost." The last month: Kirk assassinated, attempted bombing of Fox news van, Democrat lobbyist shot up an ABC in California. Massacre of Catholic children. Another attack on ICE. "Another?" Yeah, remember the Darwin award winner a few months ago who was working with an antifa cell that threw smoke bombs fireworks to lure federal agents out and ambush them, and then got wasted? Remember the 2nd Trump assassin that just tried to stick a pen in his jugular after being found guilty? Remember the 1st assassin? Remember the mob outside Kavanaugh's house? Intimidating a judge is a federal crime. Who was charged for that? Remember the Summer of Love and attack on the White House? The mass shooting of Congresspeople? You know someone instrumental in the Capitol bombing was made a professor? This is not like the weather, oh it's lightning striking nobody could have predicted it. This is a pattern of stochastic terrorism driven by politicians and media figures who constantly urge it with dogwhistles, say "oops violence is bad" after it happens for plausible deniability, and then restart the whole gaslighting process. I don't care 300 or 400 public figures stamped there "violence is bad" card before saying "yeah but they're all still Nazis and it's their fault if this happens again if they don't stop being Nazis." I care about their millions of unhinged followers, some of whom are actually American residents or even citizens, who hear loud and clear and know exactly what the game is. They may need some kind of reeducation or a red flag of their gun rights before this keeps happening. Alternative is the Yvette Clarkes and Barack Obamas of the world can switch gears and revise their statements. Instead of "Yeah I guess it's not great that Kirk was murdered during a public conversation, but we should still be able to disagree with him," come out and say "Every single one of you, calm down, grow up, stop attacking people, and we will give you a free electric car and social worker for every credible threat of violence you report." That'd be leadership.
Nice list of events.
But 75% of domestic terrorism in the US is from far right groups.
So that list would be longer.
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As many people have pointed out, you don't get to stick the Trump wanna be assassins on "the left" because there is, a shocker, just as much evidence that they were right wingers then that they were left.
I like how far back you have to go to make it seem like your list is longer then it actually is, not pathetic at all.
I also love how not racist you are, and not obsessed with Obama who hasn't been the president for almost 10 years.
As others have pointed out, the other side of the dick measuring contest is much longer, but that doesn't bother you.
By the way, for who asked where does he get his talking points, I asked him a few months ago and he confessed that he's a huge Tucker Carlson fan and listed a bunch of other, equally high quality journalists that he likes.
Chistchurch shooter was, to quote himself:
Tarrant told investigators that he frequented right-wing discussion boards on 4chan and 8chan and also found YouTube to be "a significant source of information and inspiration.
Those are all, very much American companies, so, yeah, if something is going to be done by online radicalization of these men, it should be done starting with those.
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On September 26 2025 01:13 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2025 00:51 Magic Powers wrote:On September 25 2025 22:09 Introvert wrote:On September 25 2025 19:37 oBlade wrote:On September 25 2025 18:37 MJG wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y4de02x3woIs it a realistic possibility that the US Government is going to go into shut down, or will the Democrats fold? This seems like the kind of tactic that the Republicans have been perfectly happy to use to get their way when a Democrat has been in the White House, but that Democrats are unwilling to use when a Republican is in the White House. Democrats caused the longest shutdown ever in Trump's first term. You probably don't remember because it's the government, so nobody noticed they stopped doing nothing. On September 25 2025 13:52 Phyanketto wrote:
So how we feeling on the ice shooter? The fact that "anti-ice" was written on the casings is pretty braindead. He attacked a facility and only killed detainees, but all the news and government talking heads are speaking like ice agents themselves were the ones injured and killed. Prima facie idiocy, even. Luigi really did a number on these people that every staged event now has bullets with writing on them, and they keep getting dumber and dumber.
Kash can't even stage a false flag right. I'm not the only one who thinks that's what this is right? Eventually they're going to find the shooter was trans or something, mark my words, because they can't stop themselves from double dipping every time. ICE was obviously the target. There is no contingent of people who are mad at ICE for detaining and deporting people instead of executing them, who would write "FUCK ICE" on bullets, snipe carefully at an ICE facility avoiding killing the hero ICE agents that the shooter is mad aren't doing what they're supposed to which is kill, and then commit suicide, rather than just shooting all the brown people he sees, like the guy in El Paso did. It doesn't make a lick of sense. The government can write on a shell casing with a marker, sure, anyone could do that. But they can't find someone to do a mission like that and shoot themselves, they can't find someone they would trust not to expose the conspiracy, and they can't find someone who they could promise wouldn't get caught or shot and believe it, after every single other person has been caught or shot. I like the thread dichotomy between "the fascists deserve it and whst did they expect?" with "these recent shootings are actually right-wing." I understand why they don't like the bullets though, it makes it harder to pin an event on their preferred target in the immediate aftermath. Meanwhile we are to assume that since he shot into a van he couldn't see into and hit people he didnt intend, it's a false flag. A very devoted one, since the shooter killed himself after, as you said. But maybe Luigi was a false flag, after all the person he killed was head of a company that didnt do anything to him. And no one pushed back on this as of yet. Really losing it in here recently. You're thinking of a conspiracy. False flag is false identification, e.g. as a disguise or redirection of blame. Let me clarify. The belief that the ICE shooting was a false flag operation is a conspiracy theory.
Seems like a predictable consequence of making the criminal justice system an explicitly partisan institution, no?
For like a decade now the standard profile of these shooters has been, basically, terminally online losers committing violence as an extreme form of shitposting. What little I’ve seen of this case seems consistent with that archetype. But didn’t these guys (in charge of the FBI now, fresh off careers as right-wing podcasters) try to tell us the last one had “transgender ideology” inscribed on the bullets? Meanwhile the administration they’re plainly partisan agents for tried to use it as a Reichstag fire-esque excuse to crack down on dissent? Why exactly should we take them at their word?
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