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On September 23 2025 17:37 ChristianS wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2025 10:02 GreenHorizons wrote:This. This is the sort of protesting that need to be happening in the US right now ROME (AP) — Thousands of protesters and strikers calling for solidarity with Palestinians in Gaza took to the streets in Italy on Monday, with some storming Milan’s central train station and clashing violently with police.
Italy’s grassroots unions, which represent hundreds of thousands of people ranging from schoolteachers to metalworkers, called for a 24-hour general strike in both public and private sectors, including public transportation, trains, schools and ports.
The strike caused disruptions across the country, with long delays for national trains and limited public transport in major cities, including Rome. apnews.com Hey, I was actually at that protest outside Termini! Kind of by coincidence, I just happened to be nearby in Rome at the time. Honestly not that different a feeling from a 50501 protest. More communist party flags, certainly, and maybe a few more Palestine flags although in my experience there’s a lot of those at 50501 protests too. What interests me though (I don’t know the answers to these questions, I’ll try to research more when I can but I also wanted to pose them here): What does the accompanying “general strike” in Italy look like? Who organizes it? And who actually strikes? It doesn’t seem like I had any trouble finding food or transportation, but I’m not sure if that’s because those workers aren’t supporting the strike or if they’re not even being asked to.
From what I understand it was "grassroots unions" which are basically the ones outside/to the left of the 3 main confederations.
I've had a very different impression of (most/all) of the 50501 protests. Noticeably, the insistence by 50501 organizers to not be disruptive, stay on the sidewalk, etc. Frequently in contrast/conflict with other organizers that "50501 protests" have glommed onto in places like LA, NYC, and other places we've seen the more disruptive protests.
In Bologna—home to the world’s oldest continuously operating university—students occupied lecture halls and thousands of demonstrators took to the streets, including the Tangenziale, the ring highway around the city, where police attacked them with water cannons and tear gas.
Dockworkers and other demonstrators marched and blocked ports in cities including Genoa, Trieste, and Livorno.
Thousands of protesters also blocked the main train station in Naples.
www.commondreams.org
They're intentionally blocking, occupying, confronting police, etc. Maybe 50501 has gotten more radicalized since I last payed attention to them (I see them on the sidewalks when I'm out and about from time to time), but that's the kind of stuff Biden and Democrats were cracking down on before Trump even got into office.
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On September 23 2025 09:43 Razyda wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2025 09:10 WombaT wrote:
Charlie Kirk isn’t all that relevant to how ICE is currently operating, and whether that’s desirable or not.
I think it very much is. If someone is willing to take on the millionaire with private security what chances someone without this resources have? Show nested quote +On September 23 2025 09:09 Luolis wrote:
Just to confirm, Razyda, do you think that police should cover their faces and hide identification? Surely they are also at risk and should be protected. What I think is police should be able to protect their identity from general public. They should have some sort of identification (as in badge number, not a name and address on it though). In case conservative position is unclear: Lynch by general public is a no, no.
Police officers in general are extraordinarily likely to get killed (when compared to the general public). That risk is a fundamental part of their job that they're aware of and that they know can't be avoided.
Wearing masks will not change that. But what masks will do is that they'll shift more of the risk from law enforcement to the general public, because the general public now has to deal with the uncertainty of who's truly knocking at the door since the people knocking could be literally anyone impersonating an officer, including robbers, rapists, stalkers, etc. People now have no way of telling the difference.
That is the point of contention. The general public didn't sign anything that says they must deal with an enhanced risk when dealing with law enforcement. It's only the other way around, and that's for a good reason. People who work in law enforcement have a different mentality than most people and they receive required therapy, allowing them to deal with the anxiety that comes with their profession. It's literally in their job description. Same as firefighters.
Shifting the risk onto the general public is intolerable. That should never be allowed to happen.
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Sexually frustrated people being politically radicalized is a tale as old as time itself
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https://x.com/JudiciaryGOP/status/1970476265343012879
"Google Admits Censorship Under Biden; Promises to End Bans of YouTube Accounts of Thousands of Americans Censored for Political Speech
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, thanks to the oversight of Chairman Jim Jordan (R-OH), Google commits to offer all creators previously kicked off YouTube due to political speech violations on topics such as COVID-19 and elections an opportunity to return to the platform.
Google also admitted the following to the House Judiciary Committee:
1. The Biden Administration pressured Google to censor Americans and remove content that did not violate YouTube's policies.
2. The Biden Administration censorship pressure was "unacceptable and wrong."
3. Public debate should never come at the expense of relying "authorities."
4. The company will never use third-party "fact-checkers."
5. Europe's censorship laws target American companies and threaten American speech, including the removal of "lawful content."
These major admissions come after Chairman Jordan's subpoena to Google and a years long investigation into the company."
This is why democrats had to loose election. Now republicans should push some legislation, which prevent it ever happening in the future, because quite frankly google promise is worth f all.
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The fact that you get your news from sources like that explains so much about what went wrong with you.
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On September 24 2025 01:13 Razyda wrote:https://x.com/JudiciaryGOP/status/1970476265343012879"Google Admits Censorship Under Biden; Promises to End Bans of YouTube Accounts of Thousands of Americans Censored for Political Speech WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, thanks to the oversight of Chairman Jim Jordan (R-OH), Google commits to offer all creators previously kicked off YouTube due to political speech violations on topics such as COVID-19 and elections an opportunity to return to the platform. Google also admitted the following to the House Judiciary Committee: 1. The Biden Administration pressured Google to censor Americans and remove content that did not violate YouTube's policies. 2. The Biden Administration censorship pressure was "unacceptable and wrong." 3. Public debate should never come at the expense of relying "authorities." 4. The company will never use third-party "fact-checkers." 5. Europe's censorship laws target American companies and threaten American speech, including the removal of "lawful content." These major admissions come after Chairman Jordan's subpoena to Google and a years long investigation into the company." This is why democrats had to loose election. Now republicans should push some legislation, which prevent it ever happening in the future, because quite frankly google promise is worth f all.
One of Trump's mega-donors testifies that the thing the Trump administration is literally doing right now was actually done by Biden. Offers no proof.
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Zuckerberg claimed that Facebook's COVID fact checking was introduced after Biden's administration pressured Meta. The only problem is that the fact checking started under Trump. ;-)
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On September 24 2025 01:14 KwarK wrote:
The fact that you get your news from sources like that explains so much about what went wrong with you.
Or when they went right, politically speaking.
It’s borderline insane naivety. If not something worse.
Trust me bro, if we just let people say whatever they want with no consequences on social media, the good information will win in the Free Marketplace of IdeasTM, and nobody has any legit reasons to intervene in that process ever. Which totally works, as we’ve seen with the improvements in how informed average Joe are, and how noticeably more cohesive our societies have become over the last 15+ years.
Also masked police detaining brown people is cool, they should be able to obscure their identities because AntifaTM will get them if they can’t do that that. Left wing political violence makes up about 80% of the pie in the Us. Oh wait sorry, my lazy eye problem saw me misread various reports by various body and it’s actually totally the opposite.
Razy doesn’t even have the excuse my unemployed boomer uncle has, left to the mercy of increasingly extreme algorithms and fuck all else to do but dive down that rabbit hole for 6 hours a day while waiting for the pub to open.
He actively contributes in a space that has frequent counter-points, sometimes they might even be good ones. Do they consider them, have they gone out and looked into it to see if maybe there’s something in those?
Nah. Let’s not do that.
And no, this isn’t an attack on your views. It’s that you don’t appear to listen to alternative ones, go off and look into them and come back going ‘I still think most of my views stand up, here’s why’.
There is a fundamental incoherence in them, they don’t all pull in the same general direction
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Yes it's funny because you're perpetuating stereotypes from 50 years ago to wrap your prejudice against one group inside your prejudice against another.
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On September 24 2025 02:54 oBlade wrote:Yes it's funny because you're perpetuating stereotypes from 50 years ago to wrap your prejudice against one group inside your prejudice against another.
Is that what I'm doing? Seems pretty strange that 100k MAGA show up and Grindr pops off.
Now instead imagine if instead of acting extra angry so people did not know they liked other men, these guys just hooked up with who they pleased. In that case the world would be a much happier place.
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On September 24 2025 03:03 Billyboy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2025 02:54 oBlade wrote:Yes it's funny because you're perpetuating stereotypes from 50 years ago to wrap your prejudice against one group inside your prejudice against another. Is that what I'm doing? Seems pretty strange that 100k MAGA show up and Grindr pops off. Now instead imagine if instead of acting extra angry so people did not know they liked other men, these guys just hooked up with who they pleased. In that case the world would be a much happier place.
The result seems strange because your assumptions are mistaken. That's a signal to reevaluate them, not burrow in layers of hypocrisy to explain away why you need to project homophobia onto an unnamed, faceless mass of humans you have never met and ascribe made-up bullshit to them. These are people having a memorial for the highest profile assassination since the 60s and your political angle is: look some of them are gay. Wonder why they spend time in Republican circles instead of just sticking around clearly enlightened and tolerant people who obviously don't care about their private life and don't bring it up apropos of nothing, like yourself.
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On September 24 2025 03:12 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2025 03:03 Billyboy wrote:On September 24 2025 02:54 oBlade wrote:Yes it's funny because you're perpetuating stereotypes from 50 years ago to wrap your prejudice against one group inside your prejudice against another. Is that what I'm doing? Seems pretty strange that 100k MAGA show up and Grindr pops off. Now instead imagine if instead of acting extra angry so people did not know they liked other men, these guys just hooked up with who they pleased. In that case the world would be a much happier place. The result seems strange because your assumptions are mistaken. That's a signal to reevaluate them, not burrow in layers of hypocrisy to explain away why you need to project homophobia onto an unnamed, faceless mass of humans you have never met and ascribe made-up bullshit to them. These are people having a memorial for the highest profile assassination since the 60s and your political angle is: look some of them are gay. Wonder why they spend time in Republican circles instead of just sticking around clearly enlightened and tolerant people who obviously don't care about their private life and don't bring it up apropos of nothing, like yourself.
First you do not understand the homophobia. Next I am totally fine that Kirk supporters and MAGA members are a far higher % of gays than the regular public. It is Kirk supporters and MAGA members that are mad about it. They should come out and join the party! I hope when they get back to where ever they traveled from they are much happier after getting their gay hook ups.
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I just can't understand what would be amusing about people mourning their podcaster who thought stoning gay people to death is "God's perfect law" by having sweaty gay covert sex.
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On September 24 2025 03:12 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2025 03:03 Billyboy wrote:On September 24 2025 02:54 oBlade wrote:Yes it's funny because you're perpetuating stereotypes from 50 years ago to wrap your prejudice against one group inside your prejudice against another. Is that what I'm doing? Seems pretty strange that 100k MAGA show up and Grindr pops off. Now instead imagine if instead of acting extra angry so people did not know they liked other men, these guys just hooked up with who they pleased. In that case the world would be a much happier place. The result seems strange because your assumptions are mistaken. That's a signal to reevaluate them, not burrow in layers of hypocrisy to explain away why you need to project homophobia onto an unnamed, faceless mass of humans you have never met and ascribe made-up bullshit to them. These are people having a memorial for the highest profile assassination since the 60s and your political angle is: look some of them are gay. Wonder why they spend time in Republican circles instead of just sticking around clearly enlightened and tolerant people who obviously don't care about their private life and don't bring it up apropos of nothing, like yourself.
Its called irony.
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Northern Ireland27454 Posts
oBlade has a point on this.
However they are breathtakingly disingenuous on, basically everything so it counts for a little less.
At this stage, same over my neck the woods, even on the right, being gay is sorta, no biggy now.
On the flipside, and I’m not even that old, gay right wingers would have been shunned within my own lifetime. Indeed, not even my 35 of years, but literally my teenage years. Especially if they’re too gay.
A dude who you’d be surprised to hear is gay, mannerism wise is way more tolerated than a man who has feminine mannerisms, or god forbid does drag or something.
If gay Republicans are to be criticised, it shouldn’t be based on some supposed hypocrisy of their sexuality, it’s their happiness to ride on the wave that enabled it while shitting on other minority groups.
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I thought the point was that it’s an anonymous hookup app. It’s not that being gay is shameful, it’s that they’re ashamed of it. They’re anti pride. They’re motivated by self loathing.
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