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On September 11 2025 21:09 Billyboy wrote:
How does one protect themselves? I would terrified if I was any sort of political figure, influencer, celebrity who has talked politics.
That guy didn't just "talk politics". He was one of the most hatefull, spineless, fearmongering christofacists around. His whole business model was basically spreading hate and actively making the world a worse place for people not belonging to "his" group.
No, obviously people shouldn't get assassinated for that - but it couldn't have happened to a "better" person.
If you were worried about big police crack downs, and donald using the military before, yikes for now.
That stuff is allready happening and deafness of large parts of the american public is what actually worries me.
But quick, quick... Democrats/Liberals and so on need to take the high ground and be super nice to their fellow facist snowflake countrymen, they are in a rough spot, you wouldn't want to hurt their feelings.
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On September 11 2025 20:19 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Killing people for their political opinions is obviously wrong as a general principle. Maybe you can argue self-defense in some highly specific 'this person is attempting to instigate the mass murder of x which I belong to' but from what I've seen of Charlie Kirk that would be way, way too far of a stretch. I'm just adding this sentence as a way of saying that murdering Hitler could've been okay even before the night of long knives.
I mean, like, pointing out the irony of it, whatever, I get that the timing is 'funny', but the action should be entirely condemned. Kirk was a guy who went around debating with people. I think he was mostly wrong about everything I've seen him opine on, but being a person with political opinions, I don't want to normalize the idea that if you think I'm dangerously wrong about the importance of redistributing wealth, murdering me is okay. I mean, killing people for stating their opinions is wrong even disregarding the consequences it might have - but the consequences are an added part of the reason why this is so obviously bad, not good. I'm not talking about Trump using this as some kind of excuse to further clamp down on anything, but I think some left-wing talking head being killed and this being used as a justification or 'at least an excuse or reason why it was predictable' is fairly likely to happen.
I absolutely don't think expressing sympathy is a requirement to pass the bar for human decency (I don't really see why I should care more about Charlie Kirk than the other people who were killed yesterday), but not expressing joy is.
I imagine if one was say, trans one might view someone like Kirk as a more direct threat to their quality of life than someone like say, me, where it’s a bunch of while profound, more abstracted political disagreements. Obviously I’m not American too, but even if I was transplanted over there.
I think not wanting to normalise such things, and opening the Pandora’s box that is regular political/cultural associations can co-exist with not feeling much of value was lost. Which also can co-exist with human sympathy for his nearest and dearest, who’ve lost a husband, son, and partner who was Charlie Kirk the human and not the political activist.
Ideally, we could learn. Early signs are not remotely promising. Trump is far from unique in not trying to drop the emotional tenor and de-escalate the rhetoric, on either side of the aisle. Equally, he is the President, he really should at least attempt to.
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Perhaps the person that shot Kirk went to an Israeli negotiating/debate school and just won the debate/negotiation?
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On September 11 2025 21:15 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 21:09 Billyboy wrote:
How does one protect themselves? I would terrified if I was any sort of political figure, influencer, celebrity who has talked politics.
That guy didn't just "talk politics". He was one of the most hatefull, spineless, fearmongering christofacists around. His whole business model was basically spreading hate and actively making the world a worse place for people not belonging to "his" group. No, obviously people shouldn't get assassinated for that - but it couldn't have happened to a "better" person. Show nested quote +If you were worried about big police crack downs, and donald using the military before, yikes for now. That stuff is allready happening and deafness of large parts of the american public is what actually worries me. But quick, quick... Democrats/Liberals and so on need to take the high ground and be super nice to their fellow facist snowflake countrymen, they are in a rough spot, you wouldn't want to hurt their feelings.
Even morality out of it, nothing good was accomplished. You took out one of the million voices who has likely all ready been replaced and with more ammo. And this is a cycle not the end point. People are going to get murdered that you like too. Their is good reason to have a civilized society.
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On September 11 2025 21:26 Billyboy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 21:15 Velr wrote:On September 11 2025 21:09 Billyboy wrote:
How does one protect themselves? I would terrified if I was any sort of political figure, influencer, celebrity who has talked politics.
That guy didn't just "talk politics". He was one of the most hatefull, spineless, fearmongering christofacists around. His whole business model was basically spreading hate and actively making the world a worse place for people not belonging to "his" group. No, obviously people shouldn't get assassinated for that - but it couldn't have happened to a "better" person. If you were worried about big police crack downs, and donald using the military before, yikes for now. That stuff is allready happening and deafness of large parts of the american public is what actually worries me. But quick, quick... Democrats/Liberals and so on need to take the high ground and be super nice to their fellow facist snowflake countrymen, they are in a rough spot, you wouldn't want to hurt their feelings. Even morality out of it, nothing good was accomplished. You took out one of the million voices who has likely all ready been replaced and with more ammo. And this is a cycle not the end point. People are going to get murdered that you like too. Their is good reason to have a civilized society.
I think the majority of the left wants to live in a civilized society where things work. I think theres fatigue setting in because it feels like the right, especially the leadership, just want to break things and make things worse. Theres also a vindictfulness on the right thats been in place for decades that seems to be more out in the open the last decade especially.
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On September 11 2025 21:15 Velr wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 11 2025 21:09 Billyboy wrote:
How does one protect themselves? I would terrified if I was any sort of political figure, influencer, celebrity who has talked politics.
That guy didn't just "talk politics". He was one of the most hatefull, spineless, fearmongering christofacists around. His whole business model was basically spreading hate and actively making the world a worse place for people not belonging to "his" group. No, obviously people shouldn't get assassinated for that - but it couldn't have happened to a "better" person. If you were worried about big police crack downs, and donald using the military before, yikes for now. That stuff is allready happening and deafness of large parts of the american public is what actually worries me. But quick, quick... Democrats/Liberals and so on need to take the high ground and be super nice to their fellow facist snowflake countrymen, they are in a rough spot, you wouldn't want to hurt their feelings.
It's a democracy, if it wants fascist leaders, the only righteous thing to do is to be a fascist country.
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It took out one of the loudest most important voices. This wasn't some random fringe right wing youtube dipshit with 5k subscribers. This was "Mr. Turning Point USA", one of the architects of the loss of civilized discourse in america.
If his death has any truely negative impact, then the US was allready too far gone before it happened in the first place.
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United States43510 Posts
On September 11 2025 19:10 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 18:32 Gorsameth wrote:I was thinking about how how we got here and I couldn't help but think about this quote. “By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know.” This is what I think of when people say Charlie Kirk got what he deserved, that Republicans paved the way for this to happen. We might not want to live in this world, but the path of how we got here is very clearly lit. That single quote about Clinton, no matter how you interpret it, didn't cause any assassination attempts on Clinton, because there weren't any.
I think you might be confused.
So, Trump said that if Clinton won the presidential election then the people with guns could just remove her from office.
Now you're here explaining that it's fine that he said that because she wasn't removed from the presidency using guns.
Everyone but you has seen the crucial flaw in your argument that you're missing.
Would you like to try again and see if you can catch up with the rest of the class or do you need me to tell you what it is?
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JBP, Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro (well, let's just call them Daily Wire block), PragerU, Tim Pool, Candace Owens, the list literally goes on and on.
All they do is tour and entrench with their propaganda. Kirk is just a speck dude.
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On September 11 2025 21:30 Velr wrote:
It took out one of the loudest most important voices. This wasn't some random fringe right wing youtube dipshit with 5k subscribers. This was "Mr. Turning Point USA", one of the architects of the loss of civilized discourse in america.
If his death has any truely negative impact, then the US was allready too far gone before it happened in the first place.
You keep repeating stuff like this. Have you ever explained why you think it, or sourced where you're copying it from?
How about this: What are the 5 most christofascist things, or things architecting the loss of civilized discourse in America, that Charlie Kirk did?
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Charlie Kirk was a bad person. He also didn't deserve to die.
I don't see how this is something shocking and new, this is America of 2020-ies, Trump got shot at, a person died there, I have infinitely more sympathy for that fire fighter and his family then I do for Kirk.
Charlie Kirk was a very active contributor to the world being a worse and less safe space for everyone, TP USA is a huge thing on the American Right and the major push that got Trump over the line and allowed him to enact his fascist agenda both domestically and abroad was the turning of American young men to the right.
With all that being said, I do feel sorry for the victims here and I hope the person who did this gets apprehended and we get to learn what they were thinking in doing this.
The crackdown and dark shit that is coming would have been done anyway, this didn't change that. This didn't even change the political climate, all of that was preordained when Americans voted fro Trump 2.0.
It just gave the excuses to Right wingers to turn the rhetoric up even more, not that they really needed that or that they weren't calling Democrats and the left in general "the enemy within, the enemy of the people, inhumane" and many other things.
I hope you, our American friends, including the fascist boot lickers stay safe and the coming shitstorm doesn't affect you, no one deserves shit like this, not even Charlie Kirk.
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On September 11 2025 21:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 21:30 Velr wrote:
It took out one of the loudest most important voices. This wasn't some random fringe right wing youtube dipshit with 5k subscribers. This was "Mr. Turning Point USA", one of the architects of the loss of civilized discourse in america.
If his death has any truely negative impact, then the US was allready too far gone before it happened in the first place. You keep repeating stuff like this. Have you ever explained why you think it, or sourced where you're copying it from? How about this: What are the 5 most christofascist things, or things architecting the loss of civilized discourse in America, that Charlie Kirk did?
You've already referred to Charlie Kirk as some "random moderate" (which is probably why you don't think you're conservative either), and it's clear that you just don't know anything about him. And that's fine - not everyone needs to know everything about Charlie Kirk - but at least take the time to Google or Wiki him if you're really that clueless about someone that you're trying to argue about. Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk
Feel free to look through his lies, conspiracy theories, racism, misogyny, Christian nationalism, anti-Muslim rhetoric, anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric, and everything else.
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On September 11 2025 22:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 21:58 oBlade wrote:On September 11 2025 21:30 Velr wrote:
It took out one of the loudest most important voices. This wasn't some random fringe right wing youtube dipshit with 5k subscribers. This was "Mr. Turning Point USA", one of the architects of the loss of civilized discourse in america.
If his death has any truely negative impact, then the US was allready too far gone before it happened in the first place. You keep repeating stuff like this. Have you ever explained why you think it, or sourced where you're copying it from? How about this: What are the 5 most christofascist things, or things architecting the loss of civilized discourse in America, that Charlie Kirk did? You've already referred to Charlie Kirk as some "random moderate" (which is probably why you don't think you're conservative either), and it's clear that you just don't know anything about him. And that's fine - not everyone needs to know everything about Charlie Kirk - but at least take the time to Google or Wiki him if you're really that clueless about someone that you're trying to argue about. Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk Feel free to look through his lies, conspiracy theories, racism, misogyny, Christian nationalism, anti-Muslim rhetoric, anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric, and everything else.
CK is a random moderate to oblade because he's further right than CK. Simple.
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On September 11 2025 22:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 21:58 oBlade wrote:On September 11 2025 21:30 Velr wrote:
It took out one of the loudest most important voices. This wasn't some random fringe right wing youtube dipshit with 5k subscribers. This was "Mr. Turning Point USA", one of the architects of the loss of civilized discourse in america.
If his death has any truely negative impact, then the US was allready too far gone before it happened in the first place. You keep repeating stuff like this. Have you ever explained why you think it, or sourced where you're copying it from? How about this: What are the 5 most christofascist things, or things architecting the loss of civilized discourse in America, that Charlie Kirk did? You've already referred to Charlie Kirk as some "random moderate" (which is probably why you don't think you're conservative either), and it's clear that you just don't know anything about him. And that's fine - not everyone needs to know everything about Charlie Kirk - but at least take the time to Google or Wiki him if you're really that clueless about someone that you're trying to argue about. Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk Feel free to look through his lies, conspiracy theories, racism, misogyny, Christian nationalism, anti-Muslim agenda, anti-LGBTQ+ agenda, and everything else.
I directed a question to a specific person, it wasn't you, and it wasn't Wikipedia. Link the post where I used the phrase "random moderate" or the word "moderate" please. I don't know if you got a single thing right.
People who host Free Speech Tours and talk to people, which is Charlie Kirk's career, are more moderate than people who shoot people they disagree with. On that I would agree with you. That's more of a personal or affect type of "moderate" though. He was politically right wing. Produce the post you're quoting and let me see where I called him a "moderate" so I can remember what I meant.
The shooting of Charlie Kirk is random inasmuch as it could just as easily have been Tim Pool or Ben Shapiro or Patrick Bet-David or any other broadcaster who goes on air making fools of people or letting them make fools of themselves. This is something cable news (CNN, MSNBC) broadcasters seem to have noticed also includes themselves, as many of them are reverting to little segments of "Uh wait a minute violence against people in the media is bad." In that sense it is random, it is undirected retribution against Republicans because someone didn't get their way. (Or it's a false flag but you have to be Mariana deep in conspiracies to be sure of that, it's far more likely someone just studied how the last few assassination attempts fucked up so badly and did their homework.)
Unless you're saying Charlie Kirk among all those people is so specifically evil that this particular killing is leagues more justified than would be the assassination of someone else from the above list. In which case again, I would be interested in what you (actually in this case Velr) think as a human being, specifically, with words, not that you went to Wikipedia and saw every item in your "bad" column was checked and repeat that here.
Edit: The reason especially I'd rather hear from Velr than Wikipedia is what I'm interested in is to see whether Velr has any deep knowledge of the US right figures or is just repeating something that is in vogue. I didn't want to mention that but since the question was intercepted. My thesis (suspicion) is basically that the international left provides a kind of supplemental echo chamber that allows the people living in single countries, in this case the US, to exceed the safe limits of their echo chamber. I basically think most people in the US who have jobs and touch grass realize these people are not extremists, that any level of apologism or but yeah he kind of deserved it or he's one of the worst people, is bullshit. But when the supply of people who think that in your real vicinity are low, there's always the internet and media which will artificially amplify that even though it's mirroring and bouncing off people who aren't citizens or residents of what they're talking about.
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On September 11 2025 22:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 21:58 oBlade wrote:On September 11 2025 21:30 Velr wrote:
It took out one of the loudest most important voices. This wasn't some random fringe right wing youtube dipshit with 5k subscribers. This was "Mr. Turning Point USA", one of the architects of the loss of civilized discourse in america.
If his death has any truely negative impact, then the US was allready too far gone before it happened in the first place. You keep repeating stuff like this. Have you ever explained why you think it, or sourced where you're copying it from? How about this: What are the 5 most christofascist things, or things architecting the loss of civilized discourse in America, that Charlie Kirk did? You've already referred to Charlie Kirk as some "random moderate" (which is probably why you don't think you're conservative either), and it's clear that you just don't know anything about him. And that's fine - not everyone needs to know everything about Charlie Kirk - but at least take the time to Google or Wiki him if you're really that clueless about someone that you're trying to argue about. Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk Feel free to look through his lies, conspiracy theories, racism, misogyny, Christian nationalism, anti-Muslim rhetoric, anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric, and everything else.
I knew he was a compete twat, but geez that article is something else.
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UK fires ambassador to US Peter Mandelson over Epstein links
"Mandelson had been under mounting pressure over his relationship with Epstein after US lawmakers on Monday released a “birthday book,” compiled for Epstein’s 50th birthday in 2003, in which the veteran Labour party politician had penned a handwritten note describing Epstein as “my best pal.”"
That's interesting, because Epstein considered someone else his best pal. I bet you'll never guess who.
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On September 11 2025 05:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 05:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 11 2025 04:23 oBlade wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... The spoiled derangement of leftism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas. The spoiled derangement of rightism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators Nobody supports this. On the other hand, Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 05:39 KwarK wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... It’s a start. Shooting random moderate media figures is a "start." Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 05:55 Doublemint wrote:On September 11 2025 05:39 KwarK wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... It’s a start. to nothing good. if we remember, Trump used "Big Balls" getting beat up as a pretense to send the national guard into D.C. only god knows what nightmarish response they come up with after Kirk's death. It's entirely possible people might use these waves of violence as some kind of political tool to justify policies that stop waves of violence.
Here you are oblade.
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United States43510 Posts
Oblade’s continued defence of Trump’s “if Hillary wins the election then just shoot her” is very much the problem here. Back when Trump said it and everyone including me condemned it the issue with it wasn’t that he was proposing shooting someone on my team, it was that he was introducing shooting the other team to the mainstream. The issue with it was that people were going to get shot.
Now here we are and Trump won the battle for different visions of America and Oblade still simply doesn’t get it. He’s very upset that someone on his team got shot but he doesn’t see any connection between that and the normalization of shooting the other team. He’ll still happily defend the shooting part, it’s the his team part he doesn’t like.
The Trumpers, which includes him, created this society under the rather childish delusion that they were going to shoot everyone else, and nobody was going to shoot them.
I continue to have a problem with Trump’s proposal that we simply shoot the other side if they win the election. I continue to think it’ll lead to lots of people getting shot. Whereas he continues to defend that quote while failing to understand that he’s getting exactly what he wanted.
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On September 11 2025 22:02 Jankisa wrote:
Charlie Kirk was a bad person. He also didn't deserve to die.
I don't see how this is something shocking and new, this is America of 2020-ies, Trump got shot at, a person died there, I have infinitely more sympathy for that fire fighter and his family then I do for Kirk.
Charlie Kirk was a very active contributor to the world being a worse and less safe space for everyone, TP USA is a huge thing on the American Right and the major push that got Trump over the line and allowed him to enact his fascist agenda both domestically and abroad was the turning of American young men to the right.
With all that being said, I do feel sorry for the victims here and I hope the person who did this gets apprehended and we get to learn what they were thinking in doing this.
The crackdown and dark shit that is coming would have been done anyway, this didn't change that. This didn't even change the political climate, all of that was preordained when Americans voted fro Trump 2.0.
It just gave the excuses to Right wingers to turn the rhetoric up even more, not that they really needed that or that they weren't calling Democrats and the left in general "the enemy within, the enemy of the people, inhumane" and many other things.
I hope you, our American friends, including the fascist boot lickers stay safe and the coming shitstorm doesn't affect you, no one deserves shit like this, not even Charlie Kirk.
they’re doing a lot more than just *calling* people enemies of the state, but otherwise yea. nobody deserves to die but many people won’t be mourning his passing. there’s a lot of room for different feelings between those two.
I feel infinitely worse for his children who just lost a dad than I do him. as many have said, he believed his death was worth it. he is one of the many people with extremest views against gun control that he directly enabled his own demise. hard to mourn that.
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On September 11 2025 22:32 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 22:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 11 2025 21:58 oBlade wrote:On September 11 2025 21:30 Velr wrote:
It took out one of the loudest most important voices. This wasn't some random fringe right wing youtube dipshit with 5k subscribers. This was "Mr. Turning Point USA", one of the architects of the loss of civilized discourse in america.
If his death has any truely negative impact, then the US was allready too far gone before it happened in the first place. You keep repeating stuff like this. Have you ever explained why you think it, or sourced where you're copying it from? How about this: What are the 5 most christofascist things, or things architecting the loss of civilized discourse in America, that Charlie Kirk did? You've already referred to Charlie Kirk as some "random moderate" (which is probably why you don't think you're conservative either), and it's clear that you just don't know anything about him. And that's fine - not everyone needs to know everything about Charlie Kirk - but at least take the time to Google or Wiki him if you're really that clueless about someone that you're trying to argue about. Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk Feel free to look through his lies, conspiracy theories, racism, misogyny, Christian nationalism, anti-Muslim agenda, anti-LGBTQ+ agenda, and everything else. I directed a question to a specific person, it wasn't you, and it wasn't Wikipedia. Link the post where I used the phrase "random moderate" or the word "moderate" please. I don't know if you got a single thing right.
You literally said it yesterday. We went over this yesterday. Here:
On September 11 2025 05:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 05:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 11 2025 04:23 oBlade wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... The spoiled derangement of leftism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas. The spoiled derangement of rightism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators Nobody supports this. On the other hand, Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 05:39 KwarK wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... It’s a start. Shooting random moderate media figures is a "start." Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 05:55 Doublemint wrote:On September 11 2025 05:39 KwarK wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... It’s a start. to nothing good. if we remember, Trump used "Big Balls" getting beat up as a pretense to send the national guard into D.C. only god knows what nightmarish response they come up with after Kirk's death. It's entirely possible people might use these waves of violence as some kind of political tool to justify policies that stop waves of violence.
On September 11 2025 06:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 05:58 oBlade wrote:On September 11 2025 05:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 11 2025 04:23 oBlade wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... The spoiled derangement of leftism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas. The spoiled derangement of rightism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators Nobody supports this. On the other hand, On September 11 2025 05:39 KwarK wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... It’s a start. Shooting random moderate media figures is a "start."On September 11 2025 05:55 Doublemint wrote:On September 11 2025 05:39 KwarK wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail Conservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... It’s a start. to nothing good. if we remember, Trump used "Big Balls" getting beat up as a pretense to send the national guard into D.C. only god knows what nightmarish response they come up with after Kirk's death. It's entirely possible people might use these waves of violence as some kind of political tool to justify policies that stop waves of violence. Charlie Kirk is neither random nor moderate.
Your ignorance of Charlie Kirk does not excuse his behavior or make him moderate. Educate yourself - especially when being given resources to do so - instead of pouting. (The article you had responded to even accurately called Charlie Kirk a "right-wing firebrand", before you relabeled him as a "random moderate media figure".)
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