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On December 06 2024 11:00 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2024 10:51 ETisME wrote:On December 06 2024 10:29 WombaT wrote:On December 06 2024 09:14 ETisME wrote:On December 06 2024 09:01 WombaT wrote:
Also you seem to love to suck off free market capitalism at every juncture but yet not connect that to working conditions in nations you mentioned.
But hey that’s just me. You seem to think Bitcoin is a sensible venture so what would I know? If someone is in the US, and feeling hopeless (due to financial reasons) to the point that he sees broad daylight assassination of wealthy is a consolation prize, then he or that leftists group really gotta rethink their perspective in life. Or are you saying there should be a group of potential murders who would jump onto the wealthy right now? Just because you don't understand the value of bitcoin doesn't mean I am wrong. The US bitcoin strategic reserve gets bipartisan support? Not only the price of Bitcoin is proving you wrong, it's the literal adoption from corps and nations that's proving you wrong. China and India are far from Free market capitalism. The property crisis IS the perfect example. But you did ask a good question, what do you know? What value of BitCoin? It’s a speculative investment vehicle that is too volatile to be even a pseudo-currency. It’s never come close to fulfilling its theoretical potential and it’s not cos of people like me, who was actually initially enthused by potential applications. Crypto enthusiasts just have to get over this, happens to every bloody coin going Ultimately if your job is making money off insurance, and finding ways to even deny coverage to those that actually pay insurance to extract a little more juice, well people have died because of that and fuck you, fuck you with bells on. No sympathy whatsoever if someone sent you a complaint letter wrapped around a bullet. And fuck all you free market zealots who think it’s more objectionable to make that point and not shed crocodile tears over some CEO cunt than acknowledge the whole many, many people dying due to this grotesque practice. Absolute errant fucking nonsense We can talk about bitcoin in another thread, but no, ironically the constant nonstop babbling about speculative investment vehicle is ironic. CURRENCY market itself is THE speculative market, it's traded 24/7 with massive leverage ratios. Bitcoin has also been less volatile than many fiat that has died off. The concept that money needs to be issued by the government, literally makes 0 sense when historically it hasn't been. >No sympathy whatsoever if someone sent you a complaint letter wrapped around a bullet. >acknowledge the whole many, many people dying due to this grotesque practice There's a big jump between having no sympathy to seeing this as a consolation prize for "hopeless leftists". Not to mention they aren't mutually exclusive. And I am not sure why you think I am a free market zealot. If I was I wouldn't be criticizing Germany for their utter incompetent in self reliance for years, or Trump's protectionism policy. As I said in the post above this, I think this cunt being shot is largely meaningless as he’ll just be replaced by another cunt, it’s a systemic problem rather than something created by uniquely evil individuals.
He has a duty of care to his shareholders, right?
He has to exploit people and end up with bloody hands or he isn't doing his job. If more profit could be made, but isn't, he is being negligent.
The problem goes way, way beyond one guy.
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On December 06 2024 11:00 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2024 10:51 ETisME wrote:On December 06 2024 10:29 WombaT wrote:On December 06 2024 09:14 ETisME wrote:On December 06 2024 09:01 WombaT wrote:
Also you seem to love to suck off free market capitalism at every juncture but yet not connect that to working conditions in nations you mentioned.
But hey that’s just me. You seem to think Bitcoin is a sensible venture so what would I know? If someone is in the US, and feeling hopeless (due to financial reasons) to the point that he sees broad daylight assassination of wealthy is a consolation prize, then he or that leftists group really gotta rethink their perspective in life. Or are you saying there should be a group of potential murders who would jump onto the wealthy right now? Just because you don't understand the value of bitcoin doesn't mean I am wrong. The US bitcoin strategic reserve gets bipartisan support? Not only the price of Bitcoin is proving you wrong, it's the literal adoption from corps and nations that's proving you wrong. China and India are far from Free market capitalism. The property crisis IS the perfect example. But you did ask a good question, what do you know? What value of BitCoin? It’s a speculative investment vehicle that is too volatile to be even a pseudo-currency. It’s never come close to fulfilling its theoretical potential and it’s not cos of people like me, who was actually initially enthused by potential applications. Crypto enthusiasts just have to get over this, happens to every bloody coin going Ultimately if your job is making money off insurance, and finding ways to even deny coverage to those that actually pay insurance to extract a little more juice, well people have died because of that and fuck you, fuck you with bells on. No sympathy whatsoever if someone sent you a complaint letter wrapped around a bullet. And fuck all you free market zealots who think it’s more objectionable to make that point and not shed crocodile tears over some CEO cunt than acknowledge the whole many, many people dying due to this grotesque practice. Absolute errant fucking nonsense We can talk about bitcoin in another thread, but no, ironically the constant nonstop babbling about speculative investment vehicle is ironic. CURRENCY market itself is THE speculative market, it's traded 24/7 with massive leverage ratios. Bitcoin has also been less volatile than many fiat that has died off. The concept that money needs to be issued by the government, literally makes 0 sense when historically it hasn't been. >No sympathy whatsoever if someone sent you a complaint letter wrapped around a bullet. >acknowledge the whole many, many people dying due to this grotesque practice There's a big jump between having no sympathy to seeing this as a consolation prize for "hopeless leftists". Not to mention they aren't mutually exclusive. And I am not sure why you think I am a free market zealot. If I was I wouldn't be criticizing Germany for their utter incompetent in self reliance for years, or Trump's protectionism policy. Less volatile than the dollar, the Euro and how many other fiat currencies? Critiques of the big fiat currencies and government intervention within aren’t entirely without legitimate recourse, but holy fuck crypto has not fixed anything in that space whatsoever, not even close. It’s been well over a decade now and crypto has actually become more of a speculative investment vehicle than a stable, tradable currency, not less. I never said you were a free market zealot, I just referred to free market zealots. As I said in the post above this, I think this cunt being shot is largely meaningless as he’ll just be replaced by another cunt, it’s a systemic problem rather than something created by uniquely evil individuals. Anyway hopefully his family do OK with the pension provisions daddy earned while instituting policies that lead to people dying, hope that makes em happy
I disagree with a lot of what you have said but I don't want to flood this with bitcoin discussion.
Essentially it could be just me having economic and finance background, a lot of what is wrong with today's economy imo, is a fundamental issue of money printing.
2 examples:
1. Japan struggling with Yen shows how trade deficit actually matters, unlike many monetarists who think the limit they can print is inflation.
2. Globally speaking, we are growing at a slower rate than ever since GFC.
There could be some serious fundamental underlying issue with how we "fixed and moved on".
https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2018/10/03/blog-lasting-effects-the-global-economic-recovery-10-years-after-the-crisis
Income inequality -
When money get printed, where do they all flow to? Only a few mega corps that own majority of today's society.
There's also a snowball effect where the more wealth you have, the more debt and the more asset you can buy and essentially a giant leverage system to build wealth in compound effect.
Same goes to money itself, there's no real need for all the other smaller currencies.
There's only a few strong ones because it has liquidity globally and "strong economy/military" backing it.
But ultimately the strongest economy today are also the strongest countries that can issue bond and have people buying them, i.e. the US.
So going back to issue with money itself, is this a strong fundamental to the few strong currencies?
The strongest and wealthiest nations are also very heavily leveraged.
As for bitcoin, well at least it's almost impossible to manipulate, there's no "let's fix this by pumping money" issue. And people can adopt, or not. But overtime it will get adoption because every single second it exist and not manipulated is a win.
If you want to hate on speculation then currency itself is the most speculative of all, there's no real fundamental behind it as well and manipulated easily by central banks.
Stable value only helps with medium of exchange, which imo is the least important of it all. I can trade a rolex for a noodle if I want. But building it as a store of value requires a massive shift in mentality.
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Great article someone brought up on reddit on this current murder/health situ
www.politico.com
From 2014 about a super pro capitalist .01%r who predicted shit like this was inevitable if the uber wealthy dont kick the current system. I'm a Marxist, but this guy is spot on, Capitalism can work but you need to build out the middle class and raise up people out of poverty. The billionaires dont create jobs or the economy, its the lower and middle classes who actually contribute/buy and move the economy.
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Kinda ghoulish last few pages. Another reminder that all this talk of being the "good guys" is bunk. I also have to wonder how offering sympathy could possibly be construed as a bad thing and a tone deaf thing. More proof the internet is not real life, at least I hope not.
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On December 06 2024 14:40 Introvert wrote:
Kinda ghoulish last few pages. Another reminder that all this talk of being the "good guys" is bunk. I also have to wonder how offering sympathy could possibly be construed as a bad thing and a tone deaf thing. More proof the internet is not real life, at least I hope not.
Because some people don't deserve sympathy? Replace his name with Stalin, and maybe you get it?
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On December 06 2024 13:51 Husyelt wrote:Great article someone brought up on reddit on this current murder/health situ www.politico.comFrom 2014 about a super pro capitalist .01%r who predicted shit like this was inevitable if the uber wealthy dont kick the current system. I'm a Marxist, but this guy is spot on, Capitalism can work but you need to build out the middle class and raise up people out of poverty. The billionaires dont create jobs or the economy, its the lower and middle classes who actually contribute/buy and move the economy.
The sad part is, we were closer to "fair" capitalism 30-50 years ago...
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On December 06 2024 15:25 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2024 14:40 Introvert wrote:
Kinda ghoulish last few pages. Another reminder that all this talk of being the "good guys" is bunk. I also have to wonder how offering sympathy could possibly be construed as a bad thing and a tone deaf thing. More proof the internet is not real life, at least I hope not. Because some people don't deserve sympathy? Replace his name with Stalin, and maybe you get it?
That's right, this guy is comparable to Stalin. No I don't have sympathy for Stalin, but guy isn't even in that universe and your post is just another disturbing one to add to the pile.
I guess sometimes it's good to have a reminder that there are people, often on the left, that view actual violence against people they hate (like punch-a-nazi) as ok or understandable then call speech they don't like "stochastic terrorism."
Edit: most of the people posting this stuff probably oppose the death penalty too
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On December 06 2024 08:54 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2024 05:07 Mohdoo wrote:
Absolutely seething after reading Tim Walz statement about the waste of carbon being put to better use as soil.
Can you please read the room you god damn idiot. A brief moment when the illusion of invincibility of the rich is broken, a consolation prize for any leftist feeling hopeless about our future.
No one knew this CEO's name before he was shot. He was not a cultural icon. He wasn't some kinda famous singer or actor who had a connection with the culture of our country. He was a complete nobody on the national stage and oversaw the process of extracting value from medical care at the cost of American lives. His company went above and beyond to be extra inhumane even when compared to their competitors. He made conscious decisions to push for even more people to die for the sake of profit and he succeeded.
For me, this is such a gloom and doom moment seeing Tim Walz boot lick to such an extreme. It is extremely conclusive proof how bought and paid for he is. This is a golden example of a corporate controlled politician. There's nothing more extremist than your post screaming about how inappropriate a politician sending grief of a broad daylight assassination, calling it a "consolation prize". On a global scale, US is far from being worse than the average. Some of you need to live a year in China or India and work at factory floor, then you can actually get some perspective and set the right idea of what hopeless can feel like. Missing fingers, hundreds applying for one job, working 12 hours shift with no annual leave other than one every 4 years, and if you ever bought a house, good luck making sure it's actually build right, and if you want to build a house, good luck finishing it because construction companies go bankrupted non stop.
LoL
Why is it wrong to say: Healthcare produces misery, cripples, dead people and billionaires, and if we cut the billionaires, we'd have less misery, crippled and dead people?
US-Healthcare is cancer that can make people very rich, and it motivates people around the globe to mimic it.
In germany chancelor Scholz has agreed of not longer publicly announcing the deals of Eli Lilly with the public healthcare providers, usually the german providers telegraph the discounts, and so other countries can press the companies for equal discounts.
But Eli Lilly has approached the government and said there would be another 200 jobs for a factory in germany.. if german practice no longer stands in the way of their profits. And it's not about them giving something for free.. they simply faced a market where prices are made collectively for 85 million people, and if they'd go 90000% of production costs, the care providers wouldn't cover their product, meaning that they won't have a business at all (in germany).
Yes, german system is also deeply flawed... private billionaires were pushing for reforms, to close hospitals and buy them up, and turn them into "for profit" special clinics, worst of all is that germany isn't training enough doctors.
More and more students don't want to live the stereotype. They want 5day 9-5 Jobs, not 80hour work weeks and being self employed. 80% of them can't imagine to stay fulltime after specialization :/.
Politics is seeing this absolute demographic "Walk Out" of stereotypical career hungry doctors, getting replaced with Work-Life-Balance types, and is not moving at all..because money.
Studying medicine in germany is basicly free - but one semester costs the taxpayer about 30-50.000€/Student .. when a semester for a science student is about 1k€ in total cost... why this costs so much!? IDK. But universities are totally reluctant to push the number of available spots, despite there is a huge demand - internally there is a lot of pushback against "too many doctors"... which is INSANE.
There are cities that hav ONE practicing paediatrician left. It was totally unnecessary to visit the ER if you fell ill, because usually you'd call your doctor, he either can fix the problem with meds, or gets you to a specialists.
Now you can't get appointments, and in some bureaucrats head it's still 1993, and the mountain of boomers is "in their prime" practicing.
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On December 06 2024 16:20 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2024 15:25 Acrofales wrote:On December 06 2024 14:40 Introvert wrote:
Kinda ghoulish last few pages. Another reminder that all this talk of being the "good guys" is bunk. I also have to wonder how offering sympathy could possibly be construed as a bad thing and a tone deaf thing. More proof the internet is not real life, at least I hope not. Because some people don't deserve sympathy? Replace his name with Stalin, and maybe you get it? That's right, this guy is comparable to Stalin. No I don't have sympathy for Stalin, but guy isn't even in that universe and your post is just another disturbing one to add to the pile. I guess sometimes it's good to have a reminder that there are people, often on the left, that view actual violence against people they hate (like punch-a-nazi) as ok or understandable then call speech they don't like "stochastic terrorism." Edit: most of the people posting this stuff probably oppose the death penalty too
I am not trying to equate him to Stalin. Just show that there are people who die and you also think don't deserve sympathy. Does anybody think this guy is as bad as Stalin? I highly doubt it. Does he deserve any sympathy? No.
Maybe instead of Stalin, I should have used Ted Bundy. By all accounts, this guy has more blood on his hands than Ted Bundy. Sure, he didn't personally go out and murder them, but he absolutely did cause their deaths.
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On December 06 2024 14:40 Introvert wrote:
Kinda ghoulish last few pages. Another reminder that all this talk of being the "good guys" is bunk. I also have to wonder how offering sympathy could possibly be construed as a bad thing and a tone deaf thing. More proof the internet is not real life, at least I hope not.
In my eyes, he's responsible for legalized murder. Health insurance is a terrible thing to begin with and he weaponized it against people for profit. There's plenty of blood on his hands.
He gets as much sympathy from me as a mob boss, and frankly I'm less worried about the killer. The CEO killer's much more likely to go back to living as normal of a life as they can.
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On reddit, for the first time in years,
r/conservative and r/politics are at the bink of seeing each other's point.
Becaus of the
- Biden pardon
- CEO Assassination
The US Legal system can be used politicly. and (in some of the many cases) probably was against Trump.. and Biden..
A guy on a electric bicycle shoots a CEO of a company that denies nausea meds to child patients in chemotherapy using a silenced handgun.
It's like, if the culture war would ever stop for more then a few hours, people would see the class war that they are losing badly.
Is GH out there printing leaflets?
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On December 06 2024 10:36 Jockmcplop wrote:I'm not going to sit here and celebrate a killing that does absolutely nothing to solve anyone's problems. However, it might be worth pointing out that there have been 78 school shootings (source: https://edition.cnn.com/us/school-shootings-fast-facts-dg/index.html) in America this year and not one of them has even made this thread. In that context, its hard to get riled up about this guy getting shot. Its just America being America. America lost that fight in 2012 when classrooms full of dead 6-7 year old children failed to move the nation.
Sandy Hook proved that America doesn't want to save itself.
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On December 06 2024 17:37 KT_Elwood wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On reddit, for the first time in years,
r/conservative and r/politics are at the bink of seeing each other's point.
Becaus of the
- Biden pardon
- CEO Assassination
The US Legal system can be used politicly. and (in some of the many cases) probably was against Trump.. and Biden..
A guy on a electric bicycle shoots a CEO of a company that denies nausea meds to child patients in chemotherapy using a silenced handgun.
It's like, if the culture war would ever stop for more then a few hours, people would see the class war that they are losing badly. Is GH out there printing leaflets?
I recommend "Let This Radicalize You". It'd probably scratch a lot of itches people are having lately.
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On December 06 2024 13:00 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2024 11:00 WombaT wrote:On December 06 2024 10:51 ETisME wrote:On December 06 2024 10:29 WombaT wrote:On December 06 2024 09:14 ETisME wrote:On December 06 2024 09:01 WombaT wrote:
Also you seem to love to suck off free market capitalism at every juncture but yet not connect that to working conditions in nations you mentioned.
But hey that’s just me. You seem to think Bitcoin is a sensible venture so what would I know? If someone is in the US, and feeling hopeless (due to financial reasons) to the point that he sees broad daylight assassination of wealthy is a consolation prize, then he or that leftists group really gotta rethink their perspective in life. Or are you saying there should be a group of potential murders who would jump onto the wealthy right now? Just because you don't understand the value of bitcoin doesn't mean I am wrong. The US bitcoin strategic reserve gets bipartisan support? Not only the price of Bitcoin is proving you wrong, it's the literal adoption from corps and nations that's proving you wrong. China and India are far from Free market capitalism. The property crisis IS the perfect example. But you did ask a good question, what do you know? What value of BitCoin? It’s a speculative investment vehicle that is too volatile to be even a pseudo-currency. It’s never come close to fulfilling its theoretical potential and it’s not cos of people like me, who was actually initially enthused by potential applications. Crypto enthusiasts just have to get over this, happens to every bloody coin going Ultimately if your job is making money off insurance, and finding ways to even deny coverage to those that actually pay insurance to extract a little more juice, well people have died because of that and fuck you, fuck you with bells on. No sympathy whatsoever if someone sent you a complaint letter wrapped around a bullet. And fuck all you free market zealots who think it’s more objectionable to make that point and not shed crocodile tears over some CEO cunt than acknowledge the whole many, many people dying due to this grotesque practice. Absolute errant fucking nonsense We can talk about bitcoin in another thread, but no, ironically the constant nonstop babbling about speculative investment vehicle is ironic. CURRENCY market itself is THE speculative market, it's traded 24/7 with massive leverage ratios. Bitcoin has also been less volatile than many fiat that has died off. The concept that money needs to be issued by the government, literally makes 0 sense when historically it hasn't been. >No sympathy whatsoever if someone sent you a complaint letter wrapped around a bullet. >acknowledge the whole many, many people dying due to this grotesque practice There's a big jump between having no sympathy to seeing this as a consolation prize for "hopeless leftists". Not to mention they aren't mutually exclusive. And I am not sure why you think I am a free market zealot. If I was I wouldn't be criticizing Germany for their utter incompetent in self reliance for years, or Trump's protectionism policy. Less volatile than the dollar, the Euro and how many other fiat currencies? Critiques of the big fiat currencies and government intervention within aren’t entirely without legitimate recourse, but holy fuck crypto has not fixed anything in that space whatsoever, not even close. It’s been well over a decade now and crypto has actually become more of a speculative investment vehicle than a stable, tradable currency, not less. I never said you were a free market zealot, I just referred to free market zealots. As I said in the post above this, I think this cunt being shot is largely meaningless as he’ll just be replaced by another cunt, it’s a systemic problem rather than something created by uniquely evil individuals. Anyway hopefully his family do OK with the pension provisions daddy earned while instituting policies that lead to people dying, hope that makes em happy I disagree with a lot of what you have said but I don't want to flood this with bitcoin discussion. Essentially it could be just me having economic and finance background, a lot of what is wrong with today's economy imo, is a fundamental issue of money printing. 2 examples: 1. Japan struggling with Yen shows how trade deficit actually matters, unlike many monetarists who think the limit they can print is inflation. 2. Globally speaking, we are growing at a slower rate than ever since GFC. There could be some serious fundamental underlying issue with how we "fixed and moved on". https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2018/10/03/blog-lasting-effects-the-global-economic-recovery-10-years-after-the-crisisIncome inequality - When money get printed, where do they all flow to? Only a few mega corps that own majority of today's society. There's also a snowball effect where the more wealth you have, the more debt and the more asset you can buy and essentially a giant leverage system to build wealth in compound effect. Same goes to money itself, there's no real need for all the other smaller currencies. There's only a few strong ones because it has liquidity globally and "strong economy/military" backing it. But ultimately the strongest economy today are also the strongest countries that can issue bond and have people buying them, i.e. the US. So going back to issue with money itself, is this a strong fundamental to the few strong currencies? The strongest and wealthiest nations are also very heavily leveraged. As for bitcoin, well at least it's almost impossible to manipulate, there's no "let's fix this by pumping money" issue. And people can adopt, or not. But overtime it will get adoption because every single second it exist and not manipulated is a win. If you want to hate on speculation then currency itself is the most speculative of all, there's no real fundamental behind it as well and manipulated easily by central banks. Stable value only helps with medium of exchange, which imo is the least important of it all. I can trade a rolex for a noodle if I want. But building it as a store of value requires a massive shift in mentality.
If you stabilise BitCoin, you will ultimately link its value to the cost of processing the blockchain, which is an energy cost. So if energy is more expensive, the value of BitCoin will increase, which will make people see that as a more worthwhile investment, so will mine more which will drive up energy costs even more -- a pretty shitty feedback loop for humanity in general.
Fundamentally, I cannot think of a more counterproductive exercise than burning energy to crunch numbers when we are at the verge of climate collapse caused by burning lots of fossil fuels to produce energy.
Maybe BitCoin is fantastic as an economic vehicle, but, should we really be using it?
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On December 06 2024 14:40 Introvert wrote:
Kinda ghoulish last few pages. Another reminder that all this talk of being the "good guys" is bunk. I also have to wonder how offering sympathy could possibly be construed as a bad thing and a tone deaf thing. More proof the internet is not real life, at least I hope not.
No one cares about the guy. You don’t, we don’t. We care about what he did, and what he represents, namely, corporate greed destroying lives of vulnerable people in the name of profits for a class of shareholders that are the only winners in America right now.
No one will cry the individual since we didn’t even know his name, and mentioning that what he did was just horrifying is fair enough IMO.
I oppose death penalty, but the day Alex Jones dies, I’ll be quite happy. Not wanting the state to murder people in my name doesn’t mean i am sad every time a horrifying person dies.
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On December 06 2024 16:20 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2024 15:25 Acrofales wrote:On December 06 2024 14:40 Introvert wrote:
Kinda ghoulish last few pages. Another reminder that all this talk of being the "good guys" is bunk. I also have to wonder how offering sympathy could possibly be construed as a bad thing and a tone deaf thing. More proof the internet is not real life, at least I hope not. Because some people don't deserve sympathy? Replace his name with Stalin, and maybe you get it? That's right, this guy is comparable to Stalin. No I don't have sympathy for Stalin, but guy isn't even in that universe and your post is just another disturbing one to add to the pile. I guess sometimes it's good to have a reminder that there are people, often on the left, that view actual violence against people they hate (like punch-a-nazi) as ok or understandable then call speech they don't like "stochastic terrorism." Edit: most of the people posting this stuff probably oppose the death penalty too
There are people on death row less deserving than that CEO. You also admit that the guy is comparable to Stalin and two sentences later you say they're not even in the same universe. Come off of your high horse.
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I cap my excitement for public executions of billionaires by asking myself if CEO Thompson was standing in the way of even more cruel ideas to extort money for healthcare, or maybe he had dirt on some even worse people and was shot for even more greed - not in anger about his business policies.
In a country that wouldn't be riled up by billionaire owned media to fight a mostly self-harming culture war, people would actually push for policies that could terminate some profit-opportunities.. but would make life simply better for everyone.
You still can pay researchers, nurses, doctors.. but you don't need to pay pharma-corps that spent 2/3s of budget on lobbying and advertisement....or care-denying insurance vampires.
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On December 06 2024 20:43 Magic Powers wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2024 16:20 Introvert wrote:On December 06 2024 15:25 Acrofales wrote:On December 06 2024 14:40 Introvert wrote:
Kinda ghoulish last few pages. Another reminder that all this talk of being the "good guys" is bunk. I also have to wonder how offering sympathy could possibly be construed as a bad thing and a tone deaf thing. More proof the internet is not real life, at least I hope not. Because some people don't deserve sympathy? Replace his name with Stalin, and maybe you get it? That's right, this guy is comparable to Stalin. No I don't have sympathy for Stalin, but guy isn't even in that universe and your post is just another disturbing one to add to the pile. I guess sometimes it's good to have a reminder that there are people, often on the left, that view actual violence against people they hate (like punch-a-nazi) as ok or understandable then call speech they don't like "stochastic terrorism." Edit: most of the people posting this stuff probably oppose the death penalty too There are people on death row less deserving than that CEO. You also admit that the guy is comparable to Stalin and two sentences later you say they're not even in the same universe. Come off of your high horse.
Too bad you couldn't use those magic powers to detect basic sarcasm.
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On December 06 2024 21:16 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2024 20:43 Magic Powers wrote:On December 06 2024 16:20 Introvert wrote:On December 06 2024 15:25 Acrofales wrote:On December 06 2024 14:40 Introvert wrote:
Kinda ghoulish last few pages. Another reminder that all this talk of being the "good guys" is bunk. I also have to wonder how offering sympathy could possibly be construed as a bad thing and a tone deaf thing. More proof the internet is not real life, at least I hope not. Because some people don't deserve sympathy? Replace his name with Stalin, and maybe you get it? That's right, this guy is comparable to Stalin. No I don't have sympathy for Stalin, but guy isn't even in that universe and your post is just another disturbing one to add to the pile. I guess sometimes it's good to have a reminder that there are people, often on the left, that view actual violence against people they hate (like punch-a-nazi) as ok or understandable then call speech they don't like "stochastic terrorism." Edit: most of the people posting this stuff probably oppose the death penalty too There are people on death row less deserving than that CEO. You also admit that the guy is comparable to Stalin and two sentences later you say they're not even in the same universe. Come off of your high horse. Too bad you couldn't use those magic powers to detect basic sarcasm.
Ah yes, other people are always bad at detecting basic sarcasm.
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These are the differences between people looking at others as a statistic and representation of an idea, instead of as an individual.
Both are true, while only one realizes itself as a tragedy. Those who were close to him feel the latter. Those who don't, the former. I am becoming more and more sure this is one of our biggest societal problems. In groups becoming so large its alienating itself.
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