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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4207 Posts
November 29 2024 12:57 GMT
#92621
On November 29 2024 13:24 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2024 04:13 Impervious wrote:
On November 29 2024 03:57 Vivax wrote:
On November 29 2024 03:52 oBlade wrote:
On November 29 2024 03:43 Vivax wrote:
Ah yes when living in Texas you could meet Anton Chigurh blowing holes into you anytime you honked at someone.

Glad to be here after all.

Not to be a literary critic but I'm not sure that character was ever canonically established as being a Texan.


He was well acquainted with local traditions according to Mr. radio moderator so he might as well have been.

I dunno, I've never seen anyone other than a police officer enter a restaurant with an obvious holster on them here in Canada. I saw that in Texas in the short time I was there.

I've never been shot at here in Canada. I had the experience of being shot at one night in Detroit nearly 20 years ago.

I'm planning on moving somewhere more rural, and I'm intending on getting a rifle at that point. It's a useful tool. I might do some hunting too. I've never felt the need for anything above and beyond that, but apparently that's a thing in the USA.

My experience is that you have a very different gun culture than we have up here. There's lots of statistics out there that support this. I do not see this as a positive benefit.

EDIT - But sure, I learned everything i need to know from the radio host.....


As a fellow Canadian, I'm surprised you'd call it a tool. Even in rural cases where .22s or shotguns were relatively commonplace (yaaay farms!), their only 'tool' use was hunting raccoons or other pests. Most of the time they were 'toys', though I say that lightly because they were given the same gravitas trucks/cars/other vehicles were. "You use this wrong, it'll kill you or someone you're with. Don't ever forget that."

I agree, though. I spent some time living in Michigan as a kid, and have been back to the US since. At least coming from the outside and being there, the lingering thought of "This fucker could have a gun" does colour how I interact with people.

I said it's a "tool" because it does have practical uses when you're in a more rural area. It's not just for fun or for sport at that point. Terminology like that is basically a preemptive argument that is harder to refute by the anti-gun crowd. I didn't want to turn this into a gun control argument here.....
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4207 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-29 13:11:44
November 29 2024 13:11 GMT
#92622
On November 29 2024 21:08 EnDeR_ wrote:
I mean, you could go to the border and pile up a few rocks. You will have technically "strengthened" the border. Not sure how that's a win for America though.

Considering the CBSA is responsible for stopping stuff coming into Canada, sure, strengthening our border services sounds great for us. Let's stop the illegal crossings of people, drugs, and weapons into Canada, and leave them in the USA instead.....

I don't see how this is a win for Trump tbh..... If he wanted to work with us to have the CBSA share information and resources with CBP better for mutual benefit, that would be great. If the FBI and the RCMP could share some information with each other to assist future drug busts, that would be awesome. We just busted a pretty big operation in BC about a month ago, and given the size of it I'd be shocked if we didn't get some assistance or information from the FBI. We already do work together on this kind of stuff, for a mutual benefit.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/drug-superlab-rcmp-bust-falkland-1.7371488

Canada "strengthening" our borders independently just leaves people and stuff stuck in the USA that's trying to get into Canada. If he's so worried about reverse travel, that's up to the American side of things. This is such a bizarre thing to be bragging about.

Or do we need to build a wall, and get America to pay for it for him to be happy?
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22044 Posts
November 29 2024 13:30 GMT
#92623
On November 29 2024 21:08 EnDeR_ wrote:
I mean, you could go to the border and pile up a few rocks. You will have technically "strengthened" the border. Not sure how that's a win for America though.


The wet dream style border is stuffed with mines, barbed wire and sentry turrets in the style of the UDSSR.
Trump even prepared someone to build tesla towers for him because why not pretend we're in Red Alert 2.
Putin declined the role for Yuri.
Byo
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada207 Posts
November 29 2024 17:23 GMT
#92624
If you ignore cost, and results/effectiveness; of course there's many things that can be done to improve border security. No doubt 100%.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1119 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-01 17:06:13
December 01 2024 17:01 GMT
#92625
On November 29 2024 15:26 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2024 14:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 29 2024 13:51 Acrofales wrote:
isn't some freebie that was always there for the taking. It's a nonsensical policy.

Border security is so lame it is easy to strengthen. Canada would easily commit to it if given correct prompting. They got the correct prompting by Trump.

Another win for America.

I suspect Trump will start squawking about BC some time in the next 6 months.


I took inspiration from this and yelled at my neighbor for parking crooked.

I'm sure this was a win for Fleetfeet and will never cost me anything. Threatening your neighbors is always good policy.

It is actually a good sign in some ways that this works for Trumps supporters. He makes bold claim about how Canada is not doing enough on the boarders so he is going to do big bad tough stuff. Then next time a big a border bust happens he takes credit, his supporters all believe it was him and the real world just keeps chugging along. As long as it just stays as bluster and he does not do that actually big bad (super dumb for the economy and his own supporters) tough stuff were good.

Also, anyone who thinks it is fighting that is why the NHL fell way below basketball is so completely out to lunch that it is hard to take anyone serious. It would be like saying blockbuster failed because blue and yellow clash.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16769 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-01 20:18:39
December 01 2024 19:53 GMT
#92626
On November 29 2024 15:26 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2024 14:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On November 29 2024 13:51 Acrofales wrote:
isn't some freebie that was always there for the taking. It's a nonsensical policy.

Border security is so lame it is easy to strengthen. Canada would easily commit to it if given correct prompting. They got the correct prompting by Trump.

Another win for America.

I suspect Trump will start squawking about BC some time in the next 6 months.

I took inspiration from this and yelled at my neighbor for parking crooked.
I'm sure this was a win for Fleetfeet and will never cost me anything. Threatening your neighbors is always good policy.

first it was that "you" and "all" contraction thing. now its "neighbor". you gotta be trolling? Is your neighbour hosting fentanyl parties on the west side of his property? Is your neighbour the site of a proxy battle between 2 warring factions from India?

IMO, over all, immigrants from India have been a net positive for Canada. However, there are negatives related to immigration from India. It is proper for the USA to be wary of these issues.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/29/india/clashes-hindu-sikh-canada-india-intl-hnk/index.html

It got Trudeau and Leblanc down to Mar-a-laga or whatever it is called... tout suite.
How often has a Canadian PM and his border security guy met with the President before he is inaugurated?

My connection to Air India 182
+ Show Spoiler +
Anita Das attended the high school where I went. She died at age 17 on Air India 182. I was friends with her older brother's kids. Air India 182 is the biggest terrorist attack in Canadian history and the result of 2 warring factions in India that are currently causing problems in Canada today.


https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/inside-justin-trudeaus-surprise-dinner-with-donald-trump-at-mar-a-lago-in-florida/article_8ec716d8-aea2-11ef-a338-ef2f70df5961.html

it was a "surprise trip." LOL. Justin Trudeau is playing his cards very well. His media team @ The Toronto Star is doing a great job making him look good.
On December 02 2024 02:01 Billyboy wrote:
Also, anyone who thinks it is fighting that is why the NHL fell way below basketball is so completely out to lunch that it is hard to take anyone serious. It would be like saying blockbuster failed because blue and yellow clash.

the 1995 strike was the main reason the NHL fell off the US media radar. Fighting should've been banned a long time ago. As others have noted, it is dumb and contrived. As I stated earlier, the best games in the history of the sport had zero fights. You did not directly dispute that so we'll leave it at that.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28689 Posts
December 01 2024 20:02 GMT
#92627
Can you give some more recent examples than 1985 of how those two warring factions are causing trouble in canada today? I'll admit to not knowing that Canada was a hotspot for an Indian proxy battle and am interested in learning more about this.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16769 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-01 20:15:40
December 01 2024 20:08 GMT
#92628
On December 02 2024 05:02 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Can you give some more recent examples than 1985 of how those two warring factions are causing trouble in canada today? I'll admit to not knowing that Canada was a hotspot for an Indian proxy battle and am interested in learning more about this.

Check the CNN link. 2 Factions from India have been squabbling in Brampton forever.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/brampton-hindu-priest-suspended-protests-1.7375322

Anita Das was from Mississauga. Brampton is Mississauga's northern neighbour.

Overall, IMO, the immigrants from Pakistan and India have been off-the-charts great for Canada. However, there are some negatives.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2574 Posts
December 01 2024 20:23 GMT
#92629
Ohh shit US, look out! We've got three Canadian sikhs with 'weapons'. Y'all better keep a close eye on your neighbors!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16769 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-01 20:35:52
December 01 2024 20:27 GMT
#92630
it is deeper than that. are you trolling and pretending you did not know? it has been all over the news for months and years.
https://www.canada.ca/en/global-affairs/news/2024/10/minister-joly-announces-expulsion-of-indian-diplomats-related-to-ongoing-investigation-on-violent-criminal-activity-linked-to-the-government-of-india.html
This is related to that Sikh leader guy getting murdered in October 2023.

Melanie Joly does not know what she is doing. the Trudeau regime has bungled Canada/India relations badly. Just Another reason for Trump to mouth off about border security.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2574 Posts
December 01 2024 22:35 GMT
#92631
On December 02 2024 05:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
it is deeper than that. are you trolling and pretending you did not know? it has been all over the news for months and years.
https://www.canada.ca/en/global-affairs/news/2024/10/minister-joly-announces-expulsion-of-indian-diplomats-related-to-ongoing-investigation-on-violent-criminal-activity-linked-to-the-government-of-india.html
This is related to that Sikh leader guy getting murdered in October 2023.

Melanie Joly does not know what she is doing. the Trudeau regime has bungled Canada/India relations badly. Just Another reason for Trump to mouth off about border security.


I've lived in Canada much longer than you have, and this is by miles the closest I've seen anything to an assertion that Canada is hosting a proxy war of India's. I've lived as far east as Ontario and as far west as you can go.

I'm not trolling. Your posting is just so commonly riddled with discordant logic and pointless non-sequiturs that responding to you in earnest is fruitless.

The argument that Canada is host to a proxy war significant enough for it to justify the US blustering about us tightening up our border is truly and wholly stupid.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16769 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-02 00:42:07
December 02 2024 00:05 GMT
#92632
I lived in Brampton for one year and Mississauga for 20 years. The two cities are beside each other.
On December 02 2024 07:35 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2024 05:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
it is deeper than that. are you trolling and pretending you did not know? it has been all over the news for months and years.
https://www.canada.ca/en/global-affairs/news/2024/10/minister-joly-announces-expulsion-of-indian-diplomats-related-to-ongoing-investigation-on-violent-criminal-activity-linked-to-the-government-of-india.html
This is related to that Sikh leader guy getting murdered in October 2023.

Melanie Joly does not know what she is doing. the Trudeau regime has bungled Canada/India relations badly. Just Another reason for Trump to mouth off about border security.


I've lived in Canada much longer than you have, and this is by miles the closest I've seen anything to an assertion that Canada is hosting a proxy war of India's. I've lived as far east as Ontario and as far west as you can go.

I'm not trolling. Your posting is just so commonly riddled with discordant logic and pointless non-sequiturs that responding to you in earnest is fruitless.

The argument that Canada is host to a proxy war significant enough for it to justify the US blustering about us tightening up our border is truly and wholly stupid.

Blustering is exactly what this post is. If the USA wants to protect itself from Trudeau's team bungling relations with violent extremists from India I can hardly blame the USA.

and things are getting measurably worse in Brampton
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-police-response-protests-1.7377189

Things are getting nasty in Mississauga as well. Fortunately, the genius Mayor of Mississauga is great at diplomacy and really calmed down tensions by saying this.
“I just want to point out — and I’m not being facetious — Nelson Mandela was declared a terrorist by the United States of America until the year 2008. Your terrorist and somebody else’s terrorist may be two different things,”
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mississauga-nelson-mandela-yahya-sinwar-hamas

If the USA does not want any part of this clusterfuck... I can hardly blame them. Thing is, Canada used to have really smart leadership. This is no longer the case. Hazel Mccallion is 1000X better than Carolyn Parrish. Chretien, and Pierre Trudeau are 1000X better than Justin Trudeau. The Finance Minister for Canada is unqualified. So I can hardly blame the USA from wanting to protect themselves from these intellectual lightweights.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2574 Posts
December 02 2024 00:40 GMT
#92633
On December 02 2024 09:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I lived in Brampton for one year and Mississauga for 20 years. The two cities are beside each other.
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2024 07:35 Fleetfeet wrote:
On December 02 2024 05:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
it is deeper than that. are you trolling and pretending you did not know? it has been all over the news for months and years.
https://www.canada.ca/en/global-affairs/news/2024/10/minister-joly-announces-expulsion-of-indian-diplomats-related-to-ongoing-investigation-on-violent-criminal-activity-linked-to-the-government-of-india.html
This is related to that Sikh leader guy getting murdered in October 2023.

Melanie Joly does not know what she is doing. the Trudeau regime has bungled Canada/India relations badly. Just Another reason for Trump to mouth off about border security.


I've lived in Canada much longer than you have, and this is by miles the closest I've seen anything to an assertion that Canada is hosting a proxy war of India's. I've lived as far east as Ontario and as far west as you can go.

I'm not trolling. Your posting is just so commonly riddled with discordant logic and pointless non-sequiturs that responding to you in earnest is fruitless.

The argument that Canada is host to a proxy war significant enough for it to justify the US blustering about us tightening up our border is truly and wholly stupid.

Blustering is exactly what this post is. If the USA wants to protect itself from Trudeau's team bungling relations with violent extremists from India I can hardly blame the USA.

and things are getting measurably worse in Brampton
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-police-response-protests-1.7377189

Things are getting nasty in Mississauga as well. Fortunately, the genius Mayor of Mississauga is great at diplomacy and really calmed down tensions by saying this.
“I just want to point out — and I’m not being facetious — Nelson Mandela was declared a terrorist by the United States of America until the year 2008. Your terrorist and somebody else’s terrorist may be two different things,”
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mississauga-nelson-mandela-yahya-sinwar-hamas

If the USA does not want any part of this clusterfuck... I can hardly blame them.


So... pet issue for you and not something relevant to the majority of the US nor Canada. Got it. Carry on.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16769 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-02 01:00:21
December 02 2024 00:42 GMT
#92634
On December 02 2024 09:40 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2024 09:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I lived in Brampton for one year and Mississauga for 20 years. The two cities are beside each other.
On December 02 2024 07:35 Fleetfeet wrote:
On December 02 2024 05:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
it is deeper than that. are you trolling and pretending you did not know? it has been all over the news for months and years.
https://www.canada.ca/en/global-affairs/news/2024/10/minister-joly-announces-expulsion-of-indian-diplomats-related-to-ongoing-investigation-on-violent-criminal-activity-linked-to-the-government-of-india.html
This is related to that Sikh leader guy getting murdered in October 2023.

Melanie Joly does not know what she is doing. the Trudeau regime has bungled Canada/India relations badly. Just Another reason for Trump to mouth off about border security.


I've lived in Canada much longer than you have, and this is by miles the closest I've seen anything to an assertion that Canada is hosting a proxy war of India's. I've lived as far east as Ontario and as far west as you can go.

I'm not trolling. Your posting is just so commonly riddled with discordant logic and pointless non-sequiturs that responding to you in earnest is fruitless.

The argument that Canada is host to a proxy war significant enough for it to justify the US blustering about us tightening up our border is truly and wholly stupid.

Blustering is exactly what this post is. If the USA wants to protect itself from Trudeau's team bungling relations with violent extremists from India I can hardly blame the USA.

and things are getting measurably worse in Brampton
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-police-response-protests-1.7377189

Things are getting nasty in Mississauga as well. Fortunately, the genius Mayor of Mississauga is great at diplomacy and really calmed down tensions by saying this.
“I just want to point out — and I’m not being facetious — Nelson Mandela was declared a terrorist by the United States of America until the year 2008. Your terrorist and somebody else’s terrorist may be two different things,”
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mississauga-nelson-mandela-yahya-sinwar-hamas

If the USA does not want any part of this clusterfuck... I can hardly blame them.


So... pet issue for you and not something relevant to the majority of the US nor Canada. Got it. Carry on.

It is not a "pet issue" it is a valid concern. I bring up details you don't want to address? cool.

Mississauga is the 6th biggest city in Canada.
and again,
If the USA does not want any part of this clusterfuck... I can hardly blame them. Thing is, Canada used to have really smart leadership. This is no longer the case. Hazel Mccallion is 1000X better than Carolyn Parrish. Chretien, and Pierre Trudeau are 1000X better than Justin Trudeau. The Finance Minister for Canada is unqualified. So I can hardly blame the USA from wanting to protect themselves from these intellectual lightweights.

Canada used to have have incredibly smart leadership and always have hte USA's back. This is no longer the case.

Now we have this stuff...
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/samidoun-doubles-down-says-death-to-canada-an-accurate-summation-of-its-goals

1200 jews died... let's have a party to celebrate! is Canada smart enough to weed out the criminals they allow into the country? its a legit question any American should ask.

As an American, you watch old videos of Pierre Elliot Trudeau and you gotta be thinking this is one bad ass MoFo. Seeing Chretien take down that protester with his bare hands. Just Wow. Then, You watch Justin stumble over every word the nanosecond he is moved off of his memorized catch phrases and its sad and scarey. P.E.T. was such and uber genius he was not afraid to have other geniuses around him. So watching Justin in action I can see why Americans are concerned about the border. The team P.E.T. built around him was 1000X smarter than the team Justin Trudeau has around him. From an American perspective this is concerning.

If you want to have a serious discussion comparing P.E.T. to Justin in the Can Poli thread... let's go there.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25674 Posts
December 02 2024 00:55 GMT
#92635
On December 02 2024 09:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2024 09:40 Fleetfeet wrote:
On December 02 2024 09:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I lived in Brampton for one year and Mississauga for 20 years. The two cities are beside each other.
On December 02 2024 07:35 Fleetfeet wrote:
On December 02 2024 05:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
it is deeper than that. are you trolling and pretending you did not know? it has been all over the news for months and years.
https://www.canada.ca/en/global-affairs/news/2024/10/minister-joly-announces-expulsion-of-indian-diplomats-related-to-ongoing-investigation-on-violent-criminal-activity-linked-to-the-government-of-india.html
This is related to that Sikh leader guy getting murdered in October 2023.

Melanie Joly does not know what she is doing. the Trudeau regime has bungled Canada/India relations badly. Just Another reason for Trump to mouth off about border security.


I've lived in Canada much longer than you have, and this is by miles the closest I've seen anything to an assertion that Canada is hosting a proxy war of India's. I've lived as far east as Ontario and as far west as you can go.

I'm not trolling. Your posting is just so commonly riddled with discordant logic and pointless non-sequiturs that responding to you in earnest is fruitless.

The argument that Canada is host to a proxy war significant enough for it to justify the US blustering about us tightening up our border is truly and wholly stupid.

Blustering is exactly what this post is. If the USA wants to protect itself from Trudeau's team bungling relations with violent extremists from India I can hardly blame the USA.

and things are getting measurably worse in Brampton
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-police-response-protests-1.7377189

Things are getting nasty in Mississauga as well. Fortunately, the genius Mayor of Mississauga is great at diplomacy and really calmed down tensions by saying this.
“I just want to point out — and I’m not being facetious — Nelson Mandela was declared a terrorist by the United States of America until the year 2008. Your terrorist and somebody else’s terrorist may be two different things,”
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mississauga-nelson-mandela-yahya-sinwar-hamas

If the USA does not want any part of this clusterfuck... I can hardly blame them.


So... pet issue for you and not something relevant to the majority of the US nor Canada. Got it. Carry on.

It is not a "pet issue" it is a valid concern. I bring up details you don't want to address? cool.

Mississauga is the 6th biggest city in Canada.
and again,
If the USA does not want any part of this clusterfuck... I can hardly blame them. Thing is, Canada used to have really smart leadership. This is no longer the case. Hazel Mccallion is 1000X better than Carolyn Parrish. Chretien, and Pierre Trudeau are 1000X better than Justin Trudeau. The Finance Minister for Canada is unqualified. So I can hardly blame the USA from wanting to protect themselves from these intellectual lightweights.

Canada used to have have incredibly smart leadership and always have hte USA's back. This is no longer the case.

Now we have this stuff...
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/samidoun-doubles-down-says-death-to-canada-an-accurate-summation-of-its-goals

1200 jews died... let's have a party to celebrate! is Canada smart enough to weed out the criminals they allow into the country? its a legit question any American should ask.

As an American, you watch old videos of Pierre Elliot Trudeau and you gotta be thinking this is one bad ass MoFo. You watch Justin stumble over every word the nanosecond he is moved off of his memorized catch phrases and its sad and scarey. P.E.T. was such and uber genius he was not afraid to have other geniuses around him. So watching Justin in action I can see why Americans are concerned about the border. The team P.E.T. built around him was 1000X smarter than the team Justin Trudeau has around him. From an American perspective this is concerning.

It feels somewhat incongruous to be pining for the statesmanship of Pierre Trudeau while clapping Donald Trump’s posturing at the same time.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16769 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-12-02 01:05:45
December 02 2024 01:02 GMT
#92636
On December 02 2024 09:55 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2024 09:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On December 02 2024 09:40 Fleetfeet wrote:
On December 02 2024 09:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I lived in Brampton for one year and Mississauga for 20 years. The two cities are beside each other.
On December 02 2024 07:35 Fleetfeet wrote:
On December 02 2024 05:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
it is deeper than that. are you trolling and pretending you did not know? it has been all over the news for months and years.
https://www.canada.ca/en/global-affairs/news/2024/10/minister-joly-announces-expulsion-of-indian-diplomats-related-to-ongoing-investigation-on-violent-criminal-activity-linked-to-the-government-of-india.html
This is related to that Sikh leader guy getting murdered in October 2023.

Melanie Joly does not know what she is doing. the Trudeau regime has bungled Canada/India relations badly. Just Another reason for Trump to mouth off about border security.


I've lived in Canada much longer than you have, and this is by miles the closest I've seen anything to an assertion that Canada is hosting a proxy war of India's. I've lived as far east as Ontario and as far west as you can go.

I'm not trolling. Your posting is just so commonly riddled with discordant logic and pointless non-sequiturs that responding to you in earnest is fruitless.

The argument that Canada is host to a proxy war significant enough for it to justify the US blustering about us tightening up our border is truly and wholly stupid.

Blustering is exactly what this post is. If the USA wants to protect itself from Trudeau's team bungling relations with violent extremists from India I can hardly blame the USA.

and things are getting measurably worse in Brampton
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-police-response-protests-1.7377189

Things are getting nasty in Mississauga as well. Fortunately, the genius Mayor of Mississauga is great at diplomacy and really calmed down tensions by saying this.
“I just want to point out — and I’m not being facetious — Nelson Mandela was declared a terrorist by the United States of America until the year 2008. Your terrorist and somebody else’s terrorist may be two different things,”
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mississauga-nelson-mandela-yahya-sinwar-hamas

If the USA does not want any part of this clusterfuck... I can hardly blame them.


So... pet issue for you and not something relevant to the majority of the US nor Canada. Got it. Carry on.

It is not a "pet issue" it is a valid concern. I bring up details you don't want to address? cool.

Mississauga is the 6th biggest city in Canada.
and again,
If the USA does not want any part of this clusterfuck... I can hardly blame them. Thing is, Canada used to have really smart leadership. This is no longer the case. Hazel Mccallion is 1000X better than Carolyn Parrish. Chretien, and Pierre Trudeau are 1000X better than Justin Trudeau. The Finance Minister for Canada is unqualified. So I can hardly blame the USA from wanting to protect themselves from these intellectual lightweights.

Canada used to have have incredibly smart leadership and always have hte USA's back. This is no longer the case.

Now we have this stuff...
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/samidoun-doubles-down-says-death-to-canada-an-accurate-summation-of-its-goals

1200 jews died... let's have a party to celebrate! is Canada smart enough to weed out the criminals they allow into the country? its a legit question any American should ask.

As an American, you watch old videos of Pierre Elliot Trudeau and you gotta be thinking this is one bad ass MoFo. You watch Justin stumble over every word the nanosecond he is moved off of his memorized catch phrases and its sad and scarey. P.E.T. was such and uber genius he was not afraid to have other geniuses around him. So watching Justin in action I can see why Americans are concerned about the border. The team P.E.T. built around him was 1000X smarter than the team Justin Trudeau has around him. From an American perspective this is concerning.

It feels somewhat incongruous to be pining for the statesmanship of Pierre Trudeau while clapping Donald Trump’s posturing at the same time.

statesmanship? The Trudeau middle finger was awesome man. Canada had its own Stone Cold Steve Austin. Trudeau's views on nation hood, nationalism, and patriotism in the modern world are pure genius; I adopted this perspective as a teenager and retain it to this day.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25674 Posts
December 02 2024 02:01 GMT
#92637
On December 02 2024 10:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2024 09:55 WombaT wrote:
On December 02 2024 09:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On December 02 2024 09:40 Fleetfeet wrote:
On December 02 2024 09:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I lived in Brampton for one year and Mississauga for 20 years. The two cities are beside each other.
On December 02 2024 07:35 Fleetfeet wrote:
On December 02 2024 05:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
it is deeper than that. are you trolling and pretending you did not know? it has been all over the news for months and years.
https://www.canada.ca/en/global-affairs/news/2024/10/minister-joly-announces-expulsion-of-indian-diplomats-related-to-ongoing-investigation-on-violent-criminal-activity-linked-to-the-government-of-india.html
This is related to that Sikh leader guy getting murdered in October 2023.

Melanie Joly does not know what she is doing. the Trudeau regime has bungled Canada/India relations badly. Just Another reason for Trump to mouth off about border security.


I've lived in Canada much longer than you have, and this is by miles the closest I've seen anything to an assertion that Canada is hosting a proxy war of India's. I've lived as far east as Ontario and as far west as you can go.

I'm not trolling. Your posting is just so commonly riddled with discordant logic and pointless non-sequiturs that responding to you in earnest is fruitless.

The argument that Canada is host to a proxy war significant enough for it to justify the US blustering about us tightening up our border is truly and wholly stupid.

Blustering is exactly what this post is. If the USA wants to protect itself from Trudeau's team bungling relations with violent extremists from India I can hardly blame the USA.

and things are getting measurably worse in Brampton
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-police-response-protests-1.7377189

Things are getting nasty in Mississauga as well. Fortunately, the genius Mayor of Mississauga is great at diplomacy and really calmed down tensions by saying this.
“I just want to point out — and I’m not being facetious — Nelson Mandela was declared a terrorist by the United States of America until the year 2008. Your terrorist and somebody else’s terrorist may be two different things,”
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/mississauga-nelson-mandela-yahya-sinwar-hamas

If the USA does not want any part of this clusterfuck... I can hardly blame them.


So... pet issue for you and not something relevant to the majority of the US nor Canada. Got it. Carry on.

It is not a "pet issue" it is a valid concern. I bring up details you don't want to address? cool.

Mississauga is the 6th biggest city in Canada.
and again,
If the USA does not want any part of this clusterfuck... I can hardly blame them. Thing is, Canada used to have really smart leadership. This is no longer the case. Hazel Mccallion is 1000X better than Carolyn Parrish. Chretien, and Pierre Trudeau are 1000X better than Justin Trudeau. The Finance Minister for Canada is unqualified. So I can hardly blame the USA from wanting to protect themselves from these intellectual lightweights.

Canada used to have have incredibly smart leadership and always have hte USA's back. This is no longer the case.

Now we have this stuff...
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/samidoun-doubles-down-says-death-to-canada-an-accurate-summation-of-its-goals

1200 jews died... let's have a party to celebrate! is Canada smart enough to weed out the criminals they allow into the country? its a legit question any American should ask.

As an American, you watch old videos of Pierre Elliot Trudeau and you gotta be thinking this is one bad ass MoFo. You watch Justin stumble over every word the nanosecond he is moved off of his memorized catch phrases and its sad and scarey. P.E.T. was such and uber genius he was not afraid to have other geniuses around him. So watching Justin in action I can see why Americans are concerned about the border. The team P.E.T. built around him was 1000X smarter than the team Justin Trudeau has around him. From an American perspective this is concerning.

It feels somewhat incongruous to be pining for the statesmanship of Pierre Trudeau while clapping Donald Trump’s posturing at the same time.

statesmanship? The Trudeau middle finger was awesome man. Canada had its own Stone Cold Steve Austin. Trudeau's views on nation hood, nationalism, and patriotism in the modern world are pure genius; I adopted this perspective as a teenager and retain it to this day.

But yet you argue against patriotism and nationalism as arbitrary in another thread.

Colour me confused in trying to unpack some kind of consistent worldview here
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4825 Posts
December 02 2024 02:16 GMT
#92638
And, as should be a shock to absolutely no one who knows Joe Biden, he pardoned Hunter even though he said he wouldn't. I saw so much praise being heaped on him for saying he decline all those months ago. Hope everyone enjoys all the J6 defendants who are going to be pardoned, probably more than would have been before this. I wonder if Trump and Biden discussed this at some point in the past month.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-pardons-son-hunter-despite-003718639.html
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
December 02 2024 02:19 GMT
#92639
Joe Biden just gave every Trump voter that voted for him because "both parties are the same" all of the justification they ever needed. Nice one Joe.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25674 Posts
December 02 2024 02:20 GMT
#92640
On December 02 2024 11:16 Introvert wrote:
And, as should be a shock to absolutely no one who knows Joe Biden, he pardoned Hunter even though he said he wouldn't. I saw so much praise being heaped on him for saying he decline all those months ago. Hope everyone enjoys all the J6 defendants who are going to be pardoned, probably more than would have been before this. I wonder if Trump and Biden discussed this at some point in the past month.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-pardons-son-hunter-despite-003718639.html

I understand the impulse as a parent but fuck no he shouldn’t have been pardoned

But the whole concept is complete lunacy to begin with. Why is it even a thing?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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