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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-14 19:19:08
June 14 2022 19:18 GMT
#73441
Delete the ? and everything after it.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
June 14 2022 19:19 GMT
#73442
On June 15 2022 04:16 WombaT wrote:
AOC’s rationale here seems ‘slightly’ different from that previous source’s take

*PS how do some of you wizards directly embed stuff from Twitter




testing - I removed the stuff after the question mark '?' in the URL, and just dumped the link into the post

https://twitter.com/RepAOC/status/1519687572905152512
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-15 08:47:33
June 15 2022 08:43 GMT
#73443
Like lol? You guys are dodging the question. She voted against the bill. It was wildely reported, thet fact that You do not trust this particualr site (which I googled BTW, because I needed a source) has nothing to do with fact, that she sided with Putin and his war, against bipartisan bill.

@Lmui
Yeah. Thats the sort of murky explanation I am not buying.
Eat the Rich, just not the Russian oligarchs...
Pathetic Greta hater.
EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2956 Posts
June 15 2022 08:55 GMT
#73444
On June 15 2022 17:43 Silvanel wrote:
Like lol? You guys are dodging the question. She voted against the bill. It was wildely reported, thet fact that You do not trust this particualr site (which I googled BTW, because I needed a source) has nothing to do with fact, that she sided with Putin and his war, against bipartisan bill.

@Lmui
Yeah. Thats the sort of murky explanation I am not buying.
Eat the Rich, just not the Russian oligarchs...


It is certainly a weird bill to take a stand on, agree on that. I mean, any time you are voting with Magic The Gathering you really should check if you're doing the right thing.

I think on the whole AOC is quite charismatic and the sort of representative we should have a lot more of, I mean, at least she's familiar with what regular people have to deal with. Wasn't there a rep that thought that flats in NY cost $100k?
estás más desubicao q un croissant en un plato de nécoras
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-15 12:30:13
June 15 2022 12:27 GMT
#73445
I don't think being against the seizing of property belonging to Russian oligarchs is necessarily in favor of Putin and his war. I think that explanation makes sense, trying to maintain some integrity to the 4th amendment, when we were literally just talking about a SCOTUS ruling that put it in jeopardy, I think it's definitely an issue, just one that isn't a headliner like the attacks on Ukraine. It's possible to still believe that Russia's leadership needs to get hammered financially, without thinking we should resort to taking their property. If we're trying to maintain some semblance of order and due process, there are both optics and precedent that are a little dangerous there.

Do I think MTG and the other Republicans are thinking on those lines? Probably not. But just because they find it useful to stoke pro-Putin sentiment doesn't mean that AOC and her peers do, too.

FWIW, I don't even necessarily disagree with the seizing of Russian assets, as an attempt to do whatever possible to dissuade them from invading Ukraine. I just don't think it's such a clear cut issue that now AOC is a Putin shill. I don't think that's a solid take.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
June 15 2022 14:54 GMT
#73446
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
June 15 2022 18:52 GMT
#73447
On June 15 2022 17:43 Silvanel wrote:
Like lol? You guys are dodging the question. She voted against the bill. It was wildely reported, thet fact that You do not trust this particualr site (which I googled BTW, because I needed a source) has nothing to do with fact, that she sided with Putin and his war, against bipartisan bill.

@Lmui
Yeah. Thats the sort of murky explanation I am not buying.
Eat the Rich, just not the Russian oligarchs...

It’s almost exclusively the 1st and 2nd amendments most prevalent in invocation political discourse, there are other amendments.

If AOC and the squad have made violations of the 4th amendment a pretty decent chunk of their platform, it would be incongruous to just drop that when it’s expedient to do so.

That’s how inalienable rights stop becoming inalienable. We’ve already seen how this goes in the post 9/11 era where ‘emergency’ legislation to deal with terrorism were, by a huge margin used to prosecute good old regular criminals.

These were oligarchs the West was perfectly happy to do business with in the three decades post the collapse of the Soviet Union, London isn’t disparagingly called ‘Little Moscow’ for no reason.

I don’t think it was necessarily the wisest position to take given current political winds, I wouldn’t personally slam AOC for it given the aforementioned. I’m sure many will but hey.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-15 21:02:18
June 15 2022 19:34 GMT
#73448
May the BeSt man win.
Kyadytim
Profile Joined March 2009
United States886 Posts
June 15 2022 19:51 GMT
#73449
I'm not surprised that someone arguing against the left wing thinks that standing up for principles and following the law even when it's inconvenient and gets in the way of a politician's objectives is something that should turn voters away from that politician
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
June 15 2022 19:56 GMT
#73450
Her rationale for her vote seems pretty solid. It's not a flaw to take more into consideration when voting on a bill than just whether it is pro or anti putin
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 16 2022 02:22 GMT
#73451
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 16 2022 02:35 GMT
#73452
Well, "family values TM" has been contorted to mean basically anything that isn't a Baby Murdering Democrat. Much like Critical Race Theory now means anything that even obliquely mentions or relates to race, as opposed to a specialized field of graduate social studies. Who needs the Olympics?
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 16 2022 21:58 GMT
#73453
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-16 22:32:28
June 16 2022 22:32 GMT
#73454
On June 17 2022 06:58 JimmiC wrote:
This is an all time dumb tweet. GOP congressman thought that CNN actually removed a statue to build a deks for Jan 6th coverage. I wonder if he thinks the dinosaurs in jurassic park are real?

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/gop-congressman-deletes-unbelievably-dumb-192325245.html

They’re not sending their best…
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-16 22:52:18
June 16 2022 22:50 GMT
#73455
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 16 2022 22:54 GMT
#73456
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
June 16 2022 23:07 GMT
#73457
On June 17 2022 07:50 plasmidghost wrote:
Do I think Beto will win? At the moment, no, but that may very well change.

The best way to sound like a senator speaking to the press is to ask yourself a question that nobody knows the answer to and then answer yourself ;-)
May the BeSt man win.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
June 16 2022 23:15 GMT
#73458
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StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
June 16 2022 23:34 GMT
#73459
I hope Beto can keep gaining ground and win the race. Living in this conservative hellhole is feeling less and less like an option for me and my girlfriend as time passes. We've been on the verge of flipping for a while now and every election cycle we inch that much closer despite Republicans enacting stricter, more oppressive voting laws that hurt left-leaning demographics.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
June 16 2022 23:43 GMT
#73460
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